NAKSATRAS ROHINI

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Dear Christopher

 

<<Thanks for your kind and understanding reply.>>

 

My pleasure. Welcome.

 

<<It's certainly true that email isn't the best for of communication ever invented.>>

 

It is not but it is a part of our learning. A challenge to be confronted and

deal with. It is by trial and error that we will learn to live with this new

technology. In time we will be able to help others in this new way because as

astrologers it is in our nature to help.

 

<<Let's try to avoid such incidents in the future. >>

 

Yes, but it is very likely that is going to happen again until we master this

new technology. We are only beginners.

 

<<I certainly didn't mean to offend you with my remarks,>>

 

No, you did not. Perhaps you did offend my mexican gunas which i have to learn to tame.

 

<<I just interpreted what you were doing as blending east and west.>>

 

It was a good guess on your part, we should try to learn to interpret the

intentions on people. We may fail in the beginning but we learn.

 

Sridhar Maharaja said once that a "bandit" was running from justice and a

British barrister was in charge of finding him. This "bandit" was educated in

the best British schools and knew how to write in English better than the

average people.

 

So the barrister read magazines and papers searching for articles written by the

bandit and in that way he found the "bandit".

 

He summoned the editor of that newspaper and under oath and in risk of being in

comptempt of court he said that the "bandit" to his believe, was one of the

greatest men in history and that he would prefer going to jail under contempt

of court than revelling the name of the author of that article.

 

The barrister said to the court "Here you find the "bandit".

 

That is how we should learn to "read" the intentions and character of people

from their "unseen" activities. It may be hard because our schools do not give

us that training, but it is worth it.

 

<<To me, this is a good thing to be commended, although I accept that not

everyone may feel this way.>>

 

Thank you.

 

<<Just a quick point on 1999 here. It just seems a bit arbitrary to pinpoint a

single year and say that was a turning point.>>

 

A good point, 1999 was a year in which Pluto achieved vargottama and soon after

that made a conjunction with the star Jyestha. I have to verify the star's

position but the book to do that is far reaching now due to the christmas

season arrangements. I think that the position is just few minutes out of

vargottama.

 

In school, we learn that the normal history of any civilisation gives a shape

like a bell. It begins low, it goes upwards, it reaches a high point and after

a momentum, it goes down again until it finishes the bell shape.

 

Pluto does a similar shape with the vargottama position at its highest and human

civilisation follows it.

 

Pluto reaches vargottama position once every 248 years average and it marks the

highest point in human history, before it goes down taking the shape of the

next human civilisation.

 

Take the example of water. We can measure its cold temperature and after

boiling point, we can measure that the temperature of the water is high. After

a while, the same temperature will come down after being taking away from the

source of heat.

 

Humans, human activity and human history have the tendency to follow cycles

which can be related to planetary cycles. We know this very well as

astrologers.

 

By studying history we can be able to see a cycle connected to Pluto in the

sidereal sky by taking as reference the star Jyestha.

 

<<Usually historical changes occur over many years, although individual events

can hasten or mark thechange. Just look at the potential for 2001 to be such a

watershed given the terrorist attack on the USA. >>

 

2001 can give the clues for other planetary cycles, just like those given by

Pluto, the conjunctions of Jupiter and Saturn, Mars and Venus, Moon and Sun,

etc.

 

I will study the planetary pattern for 2001.

 

<<Some astrologers have tried to link theselong term historical changes to the

movement of the planets, most commonly the movement of the planets through the

constellations. So Pluto inScorpio is supposedly going to be a most portentous

time and so forth.>>

 

Astrologers learn the rules, the character of the planets and signs and then

play that music creating different melodies. Some of the songs may be bad but

some others may be good.

 

 

<<I;m pretty skeptical about it only because it all sorts of things in human

history can be found in every epoch.>>

 

Yes, we can fit what we want to fit if we want, but the test of time is the best

judge. Astrologers are humans and as humans we have the tendency to search for

money, name, fame or whatever thing that can satisfy our ego. The best thing

is to tame our ego and in this way we will produce better constructive

readings. That is one of the risks to take, the intention of the astrologer in

his/her theories.

 

<<With all sorts of things going on at the same time, it's hard to pin it down.

For example, could we figure out which is the "correct" zodiac, tropical or

sidereal, on the basis on looking at the history of the world and the passage

of the planets throughthe constellations? I doubt it very much.>>

 

Difficult if not impossible but regarding events i have the felling that

sidereal Scorpio and Pluto in transit over there is very meaningful. For

example, tropical astrologers may say that Jyestha is in Sagittarius opposite

to Aldebaran in Gemini. That changes the influence of the planets.

 

Persians, Hindus, Egyptians, Mayas etc, were following the sidereal sky and

those stars were 2 of the 4 "corners" of the sky. If we move the corner to a

different sign, the reading will change. That is one of the reasons why those

signs were called "Fixed".

 

In the times of Ptolomei, the father of Tropical astrology, both skies, western

and sidereal, were almost together, but now due to precession, the tropical sky

has moved for almost one sign and in another 3,000 years the difference will be

2 signs.

 

<<That shouldn't stop us from trying of course, but I like to keep an open mind

about things and examinethings for myself.>>

 

I think that such approach is the best.

 

<<It's just my style, that's all. >>

 

We all have an style.<<hasta, Chris>>

 

Rohini, natabara.<<PS Glad to hear you're recovering well.>>

 

Slow, but forward in general. Thanks.