Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 > Dear Cynthia > Could you send us your full details and your insights on Rohini > Nicholas That might be pretty long. Here are some of the most interesting things that have come to light in my clients. I started with the notion that Rohini was the most wonderful placement for the Moon. You know, the stuff that the books say. There is another part to the myth, as you likely know. The gods hid Rohini in the heavens in Mrigashira to protect her from her father's desire. There is an incest theme that runs through this placement. As an astrologer I usually just tell the story and suggest that it probably doesn't really apply to the client, only to see many become wide eyed and reveal tale after tale. It is not just the Moon placement either. One woman is a twin, Rohini and Venus, I believe on the Lagna. Both were molested by their father. Another had Venus in Rohini in the 12th. Molested by a cousin and later by her dentist while under anesthesia. A couple had a compatibility session. She with Sun in Rohini in the 10th. He had strong placements in Jyeshta (that's another story). I asked him if he could deal with the fact that she was and will always be attractive to other men. He was shocked. He was certain that she was forever leading them on. She felt that men had always approached her and she was just being friendly. When he came face-to-face that this would be part of their lives forever it was a component for their breakup. I never tell anyone whom they should be with, only try to uncover the challenges and let them decide. One Rohini Moon woman was in a 27 year marriage that was very difficult. LAter she came to realize the power of her attractiveness and married very affluent men. The most recent in her late 70's. One young woman was about to marry. One of her great difficulties in making the decision was that she would, upon taking those vows, forever relinquish the gifts from older men that had been a part of her history. Anyway, the difficulty of this placement is that the person is either very aware of the power of attraction over the opposite sex (it works for men too, but most of my experience has been with women) or feel totally invisible as a person. It is as if the myth of being hidden in the heavens is forever a part of them. THey long to be "seen" for who they really are rather than what their shakti can bring to another. This even manifests in careers where they long to stand out but fear that in so doing they will somehow be attacked. BTW, this has been the case for many with the transiting Saturn and Pluto dance. When I see Rohini very strong I can spend most of the session talking about the fear and desire to be seen for who they are. BTW, I have Mercury in Rohini. I did some talk radio and was told over and over again how compelling my voice was. Clients have said they call just to hear my answering message and that helps them feel safe or better about themselves. Oh, I should offer, that I have Shravana on the ASC and finally have a career where I am paid to do what I do all the time anyway: listen. grins. c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 Here is an addendum The twins that I said had Rohini on the lagna actually have Venus in Rohini in the 7th, aspecting the lagne but in the 7th nonetheless c - cynthia novak <c.a.novak <gjlist> Monday, December 17, 2001 10:47 AM [GJ] Re: Rohini > > > > Dear Cynthia > > Could you send us your full details and your insights on Rohini > > Nicholas > > That might be pretty long. Here are some of the most interesting things > that have come to light in my clients. > > I started with the notion that Rohini was the most wonderful placement for > the Moon. You know, the stuff that the books say. There is another part to > the myth, as you likely know. > > The gods hid Rohini in the heavens in Mrigashira to protect her from her > father's desire. There is an incest theme that runs through this placement. > As an astrologer I usually just tell the story and suggest that it probably > doesn't really apply to the client, only to see many become wide eyed and > reveal tale after tale. It is not just the Moon placement either. One > woman is a twin, Rohini and Venus, I believe on the Lagna. Both were > molested by their father. Another had Venus in Rohini in the 12th. > Molested by a cousin and later by her dentist while under anesthesia. > > A couple had a compatibility session. She with Sun in Rohini in the 10th. > He had strong placements in Jyeshta (that's another story). I asked him if > he could deal with the fact that she was and will always be attractive to > other men. He was shocked. He was certain that she was forever leading > them on. She felt that men had always approached her and she was just being > friendly. When he came face-to-face that this would be part of their lives > forever it was a component for their breakup. I never tell anyone whom they > should be with, only try to uncover the challenges and let them decide. > > One Rohini Moon woman was in a 27 year marriage that was very difficult. > LAter she came to realize the power of her attractiveness and married very > affluent men. The most recent in her late 70's. One young woman was about > to marry. One of her great difficulties in making the decision was that she > would, upon taking those vows, forever relinquish the gifts from older men > that had been a part of her history. > > Anyway, the difficulty of this placement is that the person is either very > aware of the power of attraction over the opposite sex (it works for men > too, but most of my experience has been with women) or feel totally > invisible as a person. It is as if the myth of being hidden in the heavens > is forever a part of them. THey long to be "seen" for who they really are > rather than what their shakti can bring to another. This even manifests in > careers where they long to stand out but fear that in so doing they will > somehow be attacked. BTW, this has been the case for many with the > transiting Saturn and Pluto dance. When I see Rohini very strong I can > spend most of the session talking about the fear and desire to be seen for > who they are. > > BTW, I have Mercury in Rohini. I did some talk radio and was told over and > over again how compelling my voice was. Clients have said they call just > to hear my answering message and that helps them feel safe or better about > themselves. Oh, I should offer, that I have Shravana on the ASC and finally > have a career where I am paid to do what I do all the time anyway: listen. > grins. > > c > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 Cynthia, Thanks for sharing your ideas about Rohini. As one who doesn't use the nakshatras in this way, I hope you don't mind some friendly skepticism. I guess a standard rebuttal to some of your family abuse tales would be that the planets involved, most noteably Venus, would have been afflicted anyway. If this is the case, then the Rohini part of the equation takes on less importance. I wonder if you might comment on this. Also, I'm not sure how your Mercury being in Rohini is linked to having a nice and compelling voice. How does that relate to some of the general themes you mentioned such as desire, fear, or being hidden? a fellow Shravana Asc, Chris At 10:47 AM 12/17/01 -0600, cynthia novak wrote: > > >> Dear Cynthia >> Could you send us your full details and your insights on Rohini >> Nicholas > >That might be pretty long. Here are some of the most interesting things >that have come to light in my clients. > >I started with the notion that Rohini was the most wonderful placement for >the Moon. You know, the stuff that the books say. There is another part to >the myth, as you likely know. > >The gods hid Rohini in the heavens in Mrigashira to protect her from her >father's desire. There is an incest theme that runs through this placement. >As an astrologer I usually just tell the story and suggest that it probably >doesn't really apply to the client, only to see many become wide eyed and >reveal tale after tale. It is not just the Moon placement either. One >woman is a twin, Rohini and Venus, I believe on the Lagna. Both were >molested by their father. Another had Venus in Rohini in the 12th. >Molested by a cousin and later by her dentist while under anesthesia. > >A couple had a compatibility session. She with Sun in Rohini in the 10th. >He had strong placements in Jyeshta (that's another story). I asked him if >he could deal with the fact that she was and will always be attractive to >other men. He was shocked. He was certain that she was forever leading >them on. She felt that men had always approached her and she was just being >friendly. When he came face-to-face that this would be part of their lives >forever it was a component for their breakup. I never tell anyone whom they >should be with, only try to uncover the challenges and let them decide. > >One Rohini Moon woman was in a 27 year marriage that was very difficult. >LAter she came to realize the power of her attractiveness and married very >affluent men. The most recent in her late 70's. One young woman was about >to marry. One of her great difficulties in making the decision was that she >would, upon taking those vows, forever relinquish the gifts from older men >that had been a part of her history. > >Anyway, the difficulty of this placement is that the person is either very >aware of the power of attraction over the opposite sex (it works for men >too, but most of my experience has been with women) or feel totally >invisible as a person. It is as if the myth of being hidden in the heavens >is forever a part of them. THey long to be "seen" for who they really are >rather than what their shakti can bring to another. This even manifests in >careers where they long to stand out but fear that in so doing they will >somehow be attacked. BTW, this has been the case for many with the >transiting Saturn and Pluto dance. When I see Rohini very strong I can >spend most of the session talking about the fear and desire to be seen for >who they are. > >BTW, I have Mercury in Rohini. I did some talk radio and was told over and >over again how compelling my voice was. Clients have said they call just >to hear my answering message and that helps them feel safe or better about >themselves. Oh, I should offer, that I have Shravana on the ASC and finally >have a career where I am paid to do what I do all the time anyway: listen. >grins. > >c > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >: gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 DO you know where Rohini is? It is in Taurus and so Venus in her own sign is not particularly afflicted no matter what house she falls in. This is a very human study of the naks. not one of mathematical prediction but of seemingly amazing symbolic synchronicity. It is not for everyone, but offers a rich understanding in my practice and often finds the myths played out so literally that I am ever in awe of the ancients. You can take any chart and turn it upside down and sideways and find affliction from somewhere. I am a simple, nuts and bolts astrologer who is obviously female. Perhaps this is why the information is coming to me. I would never assume that a person were incested simply from one placement. Still, the stories come again and again. c - Christopher Kevill <ckevill <gjlist>; <gjlist> Monday, December 17, 2001 12:21 PM Re: [GJ] Re: Rohini > Cynthia, > > Thanks for sharing your ideas about Rohini. As one who doesn't use the > nakshatras in this way, I hope you don't mind some friendly skepticism. I > guess a standard rebuttal to some of your family abuse tales would be that > the planets involved, most noteably Venus, would have been afflicted > anyway. If this is the case, then the Rohini part of the equation takes on > less importance. I wonder if you might comment on this. > > Also, I'm not sure how your Mercury being in Rohini is linked to having a > nice and compelling voice. How does that relate to some of the general > themes you mentioned such as desire, fear, or being hidden? > > a fellow Shravana Asc, > Chris > > > At 10:47 AM 12/17/01 -0600, cynthia novak wrote: > > > > > >> Dear Cynthia > >> Could you send us your full details and your insights on Rohini > >> Nicholas > > > >That might be pretty long. Here are some of the most interesting things > >that have come to light in my clients. > > > >I started with the notion that Rohini was the most wonderful placement for > >the Moon. You know, the stuff that the books say. There is another part to > >the myth, as you likely know. > > > >The gods hid Rohini in the heavens in Mrigashira to protect her from her > >father's desire. There is an incest theme that runs through this placement. > >As an astrologer I usually just tell the story and suggest that it probably > >doesn't really apply to the client, only to see many become wide eyed and > >reveal tale after tale. It is not just the Moon placement either. One > >woman is a twin, Rohini and Venus, I believe on the Lagna. Both were > >molested by their father. Another had Venus in Rohini in the 12th. > >Molested by a cousin and later by her dentist while under anesthesia. > > > >A couple had a compatibility session. She with Sun in Rohini in the 10th. > >He had strong placements in Jyeshta (that's another story). I asked him if > >he could deal with the fact that she was and will always be attractive to > >other men. He was shocked. He was certain that she was forever leading > >them on. She felt that men had always approached her and she was just being > >friendly. When he came face-to-face that this would be part of their lives > >forever it was a component for their breakup. I never tell anyone whom they > >should be with, only try to uncover the challenges and let them decide. > > > >One Rohini Moon woman was in a 27 year marriage that was very difficult. > >LAter she came to realize the power of her attractiveness and married very > >affluent men. The most recent in her late 70's. One young woman was about > >to marry. One of her great difficulties in making the decision was that she > >would, upon taking those vows, forever relinquish the gifts from older men > >that had been a part of her history. > > > >Anyway, the difficulty of this placement is that the person is either very > >aware of the power of attraction over the opposite sex (it works for men > >too, but most of my experience has been with women) or feel totally > >invisible as a person. It is as if the myth of being hidden in the heavens > >is forever a part of them. THey long to be "seen" for who they really are > >rather than what their shakti can bring to another. This even manifests in > >careers where they long to stand out but fear that in so doing they will > >somehow be attacked. BTW, this has been the case for many with the > >transiting Saturn and Pluto dance. When I see Rohini very strong I can > >spend most of the session talking about the fear and desire to be seen for > >who they are. > > > >BTW, I have Mercury in Rohini. I did some talk radio and was told over and > >over again how compelling my voice was. Clients have said they call just > >to hear my answering message and that helps them feel safe or better about > >themselves. Oh, I should offer, that I have Shravana on the ASC and finally > >have a career where I am paid to do what I do all the time anyway: listen. > >grins. > > > >c > > > > > > > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > >: gjlist- > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat > : gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2001 Report Share Posted December 17, 2001 Cynthia: I gather this is addressed to me, so I'll aver a reply. At 01:00 PM 12/17/01 -0600, cynthia novak wrote: >DO you know where Rohini is? > >It is in Taurus and so Venus in her own sign is not particularly afflicted >no matter what house she falls in. Sorry, but I don't agree with this interpretation. Sure, swakshetra is good for a planet, but if the planet is afflicted by aspect with a malefic, or is afflicted in navamsha, to say nothing of all the other measurements one can apply to a planet, then that planet will be overwhelmed and will express the affliction. I think Braha's latest books illustrates this idea well. So, for example, for sexual abuse, there might be Mars, Pluto or Rahu contacts with Venus in the rashi or navamsha chart. I would explain abuse issues in those terms rather than Rohini placements. >This is a very human study of the naks. not one of mathematical prediction >but of seemingly amazing symbolic synchronicity. It is not for everyone, >but offers a rich understanding in my practice and often finds the myths >played out so literally that I am ever in awe of the ancients. > >You can take any chart and turn it upside down and sideways and find >affliction from somewhere. I am a simple, nuts and bolts astrologer who is >obviously female. Perhaps this is why the information is coming to me. I >would never assume that a person were incested simply from one placement. >Still, the stories come again and again. It's interesting. Everyone works the chart in different ways. I was merely expressing my own preferences here. And I wasn't aware that such things follow gender lines. I kind of doubt it. Anyway, thanks for your views. regards, Chris > >c > > >- >Christopher Kevill <ckevill ><gjlist>; <gjlist> >Monday, December 17, 2001 12:21 PM >Re: [GJ] Re: Rohini > > >> Cynthia, >> >> Thanks for sharing your ideas about Rohini. As one who doesn't use the >> nakshatras in this way, I hope you don't mind some friendly skepticism. I >> guess a standard rebuttal to some of your family abuse tales would be that >> the planets involved, most noteably Venus, would have been afflicted >> anyway. If this is the case, then the Rohini part of the equation takes >on >> less importance. I wonder if you might comment on this. >> >> Also, I'm not sure how your Mercury being in Rohini is linked to having a >> nice and compelling voice. How does that relate to some of the general >> themes you mentioned such as desire, fear, or being hidden? >> >> a fellow Shravana Asc, >> Chris >> >> >> At 10:47 AM 12/17/01 -0600, cynthia novak wrote: >> > >> > >> >> Dear Cynthia >> >> Could you send us your full details and your insights on Rohini >> >> Nicholas >> > >> >That might be pretty long. Here are some of the most interesting things >> >that have come to light in my clients. >> > >> >I started with the notion that Rohini was the most wonderful placement >for >> >the Moon. You know, the stuff that the books say. There is another part >to >> >the myth, as you likely know. >> > >> >The gods hid Rohini in the heavens in Mrigashira to protect her from her >> >father's desire. There is an incest theme that runs through this >placement. >> >As an astrologer I usually just tell the story and suggest that it >probably >> >doesn't really apply to the client, only to see many become wide eyed and >> >reveal tale after tale. It is not just the Moon placement either. One >> >woman is a twin, Rohini and Venus, I believe on the Lagna. Both were >> >molested by their father. Another had Venus in Rohini in the 12th. >> >Molested by a cousin and later by her dentist while under anesthesia. >> > >> >A couple had a compatibility session. She with Sun in Rohini in the >10th. >> >He had strong placements in Jyeshta (that's another story). I asked him >if >> >he could deal with the fact that she was and will always be attractive to >> >other men. He was shocked. He was certain that she was forever leading >> >them on. She felt that men had always approached her and she was just >being >> >friendly. When he came face-to-face that this would be part of their >lives >> >forever it was a component for their breakup. I never tell anyone whom >they >> >should be with, only try to uncover the challenges and let them decide. >> > >> >One Rohini Moon woman was in a 27 year marriage that was very difficult. >> >LAter she came to realize the power of her attractiveness and married >very >> >affluent men. The most recent in her late 70's. One young woman was >about >> >to marry. One of her great difficulties in making the decision was that >she >> >would, upon taking those vows, forever relinquish the gifts from older >men >> >that had been a part of her history. >> > >> >Anyway, the difficulty of this placement is that the person is either >very >> >aware of the power of attraction over the opposite sex (it works for men >> >too, but most of my experience has been with women) or feel totally >> >invisible as a person. It is as if the myth of being hidden in the >heavens >> >is forever a part of them. THey long to be "seen" for who they really >are >> >rather than what their shakti can bring to another. This even manifests >in >> >careers where they long to stand out but fear that in so doing they will >> >somehow be attacked. BTW, this has been the case for many with the >> >transiting Saturn and Pluto dance. When I see Rohini very strong I can >> >spend most of the session talking about the fear and desire to be seen >for >> >who they are. >> > >> >BTW, I have Mercury in Rohini. I did some talk radio and was told over >and >> >over again how compelling my voice was. Clients have said they call >just >> >to hear my answering message and that helps them feel safe or better >about >> >themselves. Oh, I should offer, that I have Shravana on the ASC and >finally >> >have a career where I am paid to do what I do all the time anyway: >listen. >> >grins. >> > >> >c >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >> >: gjlist- >> > >> > >> > >> >Your use of is subject to >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >> : gjlist- >> >> >> >> Your use of is subject to >> >> >> > > > > > >Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya; Hare Krishna; Om Tat Sat >: gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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