Guest guest Posted November 28, 2001 Report Share Posted November 28, 2001 Respected Sir your analysis was wonderful and thought provoking. could you kindly elaborate the effects of retrogression with respect to differnet planets just as you had explained for combustion. i have a few quesions a) what is the effect of jupiter retrograde in 5th house for dhanu lagna b) effect of saturn retrograde in 8th house for the same lagna. c) do retrograde planets have special aspects. kindly give us your reply Humble Regards karhteek --- Ernst Wilhelm <ernst wrote: > Dear List Members, > here is an excert from Vault of the Heavens on > retrograde Planets, which > makes a planet SHakta Avastha. Please note that > diagrams are not included > since they can't be cut and pasted into the e mail: > Best Regards, > Ernst Wilhelm > www.vedic astrology.net > Kala Vedic Astrology Software & Kala Occult > Publishers > > SHAKTA- POWERFUL > A planet is powerful when retrograde. > The planets outside Earth's orbit, namely Mars, > Jupiter and Saturn, are > retrograde when they are opposite, or near opposite, > the Sun. When one of > these planets is opposite the Sun, Earth is between > it and the Sun. At this > point the planet is the closest to Earth, its rays, > therefore, are the > brightest and it becomes powerful in its own nature. > > > The planets inside Earth's orbit, namely > Mercury and Venus, are > retrograde when in inferior conjunction, the > conjunction wherein the planet > is between the Earth and the Sun. At this point the > planet is again closest > to the Earth. > > > There are differences of opinion regarding the > effects of a retrograde > planet. Sri Mantresvara agrees that a planet becomes > very powerful, and also > auspicious, when retrograde as he states in > PhalaDeepika, 9; 20: > > "When a planet is in a retrograde motion he will > produce the same effects as > if he is posited in exaltation, even if he is in his > enemy's sign or > debilitation." > > Brihat Parashara Hora Sastra, in the > calculation for the Ishta and > Kashta (good and ill) of the planets, infers that a > planet's benefic > tendencies are greater when retrograde. The greater > the Cheshta Bala > (motional strength) the greater the good of the > planet. The Cheshta Bala is > greatest during a planet's retrograde motion. It > appears, therefore, that a > planet is more benefic during its retrograde motion. > > Bhavartha Ratnakara, 13; 16 supports this view: > "Malefics cause good by > having retrograde motion." > > Saravali, 5; 39, however does not hold the view > that malefics are > capable of good when they are retrograde: > "Retrograde planets are very > powerful. The benefics confer kingship while the > malefics cause misery and > aimless wandering." > > Furthermore, some astrological classics state > that the dasa of a planet > that is retrograde is good, while others state that > it will be difficult. > The fact that there are many contradictions > comes at no surprise when > you consider that a retrograde planet, though > appearing to move retrograde > from our view on Earth, is actually moving forward > from the view of the Sun. > The planet is, therefore, moving in two directions > and that makes it tricky > to really know what effects it will give. Is it > going to give the forward > motion effects or the retrograde effects? > > The most important factor in determining the > effects of a retrograde > planet is whether the planet is indicating > auspicious results or > inauspicious results due to its placement, yogas, > etc., and not its natural > benefic or malefic quality. If a retrograde planet > is indicating auspicious > results by placement, yogas, etc., then it will give > more auspicious results > than if it were not retrograde, all other factors > equal. If a retrograde > planet is indicating inauspicious results then it > will give less > inauspicious results then if it were not retrograde, > all other factors > equal. > > A very important factor to be aware of > regarding the Shakta Avasthas is > that Shakti is particularly the power of the > consciousness. Retrograde > planets, therefore, are more under the conscious > influence of the native. > The native will generally make conscious decisions > regarding the affairs of > the retrograde planets as well as make conscious > decisions during the > periods of the retrograde planets. > > A few other important points regarding retrograde > planets follow: > > 1. A retrograde planet should be considered > powerful, as the ShaktaAvastha > describes, giving its results with great force and > its auspicious results in > great measure. > 2. All retrograde planets are worse for health than > when direct. The > retrograde motion is not vitalizing to the physical > organism and indicates > inherently weaker organs. > 3. Retrograde planets, when they affect the 7th > house or lord, or when a > retrograde planet is the 7th lord, seem to cause > less fulfillment and > greater difficulties in relationships. This is > because, in relationships, if > you are not moving forward, the relationship > suffers, and with a retrograde > planet it becomes more difficult to move forward. > 4. Retrograde planets have more surprises to offer > of an unexpected nature. > 5. As retrograde planets are closer to Earth they > emphasize some aspect of > the natives individuality which is more unique to > the native's character. A > retrograde planet operates in a manner that is in > reverse of, or different > from, the collective trend or mentality, thereby > individualizing the native. > 6. A retrograde planet is traveling back over a > portion of space that it has > just crossed. This emphasizes a more powerful past > life influence with > lessons and talents that are of greater importance > to develop and use in > this lifetime. > 7. Retrograde planets often have the capacity to > bring something that was in > use in the past into the present. They are therefore > more inclined to prompt > interests that are from an older time or culture > than a direct planet. > > - > "Shailesh K Parekh" <shailesh > <gjlist> > Monday, November 26, 2001 1:26 AM > Re: [GJ] Retrograde Planets > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Krishna, > > > > Mantreswara states in his observation that a > retrograde planet not only > > possesses strength but produces effects similar to > those of exaltation > even > > though such a planet be debilitated or occupy an > inimical place. > > > > Kalyanavarma goes a step further in holding that > retrograde benefics > confer > > political power while retrograde malefics cause > sorrow and aimless > === message truncated === GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities./ps/info1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2001 Report Share Posted November 28, 2001 Respected Sir your analysis was wonderful and thought provoking. could you kindly elaborate the effects of retrogression with respect to differnet planets just as you had explained for combustion. i have a few quesions a) what is the effect of jupiter retrograde in 5th house for dhanu lagna b) effect of saturn retrograde in 8th house for the same lagna. c) do retrograde planets have special aspects. kindly give us your reply Humble Regards kartheek --- Ernst Wilhelm <ernst wrote: > Dear List Members, > here is an excert from Vault of the Heavens on > retrograde Planets, which > makes a planet SHakta Avastha. Please note that > diagrams are not included > since they can't be cut and pasted into the e mail: > Best Regards, > Ernst Wilhelm > www.vedic astrology.net > Kala Vedic Astrology Software & Kala Occult > Publishers > > SHAKTA- POWERFUL > A planet is powerful when retrograde. > The planets outside Earth's orbit, namely Mars, > Jupiter and Saturn, are > retrograde when they are opposite, or near opposite, > the Sun. When one of > these planets is opposite the Sun, Earth is between > it and the Sun. At this > point the planet is the closest to Earth, its rays, > therefore, are the > brightest and it becomes powerful in its own nature. > > > The planets inside Earth's orbit, namely > Mercury and Venus, are > retrograde when in inferior conjunction, the > conjunction wherein the planet > is between the Earth and the Sun. At this point the > planet is again closest > to the Earth. > > > There are differences of opinion regarding the > effects of a retrograde > planet. Sri Mantresvara agrees that a planet becomes > very powerful, and also > auspicious, when retrograde as he states in > PhalaDeepika, 9; 20: > > "When a planet is in a retrograde motion he will > produce the same effects as > if he is posited in exaltation, even if he is in his > enemy's sign or > debilitation." > > Brihat Parashara Hora Sastra, in the > calculation for the Ishta and > Kashta (good and ill) of the planets, infers that a > planet's benefic > tendencies are greater when retrograde. The greater > the Cheshta Bala > (motional strength) the greater the good of the > planet. The Cheshta Bala is > greatest during a planet's retrograde motion. It > appears, therefore, that a > planet is more benefic during its retrograde motion. > > Bhavartha Ratnakara, 13; 16 supports this view: > "Malefics cause good by > having retrograde motion." > > Saravali, 5; 39, however does not hold the view > that malefics are > capable of good when they are retrograde: > "Retrograde planets are very > powerful. The benefics confer kingship while the > malefics cause misery and > aimless wandering." > > Furthermore, some astrological classics state > that the dasa of a planet > that is retrograde is good, while others state that > it will be difficult. > The fact that there are many contradictions > comes at no surprise when > you consider that a retrograde planet, though > appearing to move retrograde > from our view on Earth, is actually moving forward > from the view of the Sun. > The planet is, therefore, moving in two directions > and that makes it tricky > to really know what effects it will give. Is it > going to give the forward > motion effects or the retrograde effects? > > The most important factor in determining the > effects of a retrograde > planet is whether the planet is indicating > auspicious results or > inauspicious results due to its placement, yogas, > etc., and not its natural > benefic or malefic quality. If a retrograde planet > is indicating auspicious > results by placement, yogas, etc., then it will give > more auspicious results > than if it were not retrograde, all other factors > equal. If a retrograde > planet is indicating inauspicious results then it > will give less > inauspicious results then if it were not retrograde, > all other factors > equal. > > A very important factor to be aware of > regarding the Shakta Avasthas is > that Shakti is particularly the power of the > consciousness. Retrograde > planets, therefore, are more under the conscious > influence of the native. > The native will generally make conscious decisions > regarding the affairs of > the retrograde planets as well as make conscious > decisions during the > periods of the retrograde planets. > > A few other important points regarding retrograde > planets follow: > > 1. A retrograde planet should be considered > powerful, as the ShaktaAvastha > describes, giving its results with great force and > its auspicious results in > great measure. > 2. All retrograde planets are worse for health than > when direct. The > retrograde motion is not vitalizing to the physical > organism and indicates > inherently weaker organs. > 3. Retrograde planets, when they affect the 7th > house or lord, or when a > retrograde planet is the 7th lord, seem to cause > less fulfillment and > greater difficulties in relationships. This is > because, in relationships, if > you are not moving forward, the relationship > suffers, and with a retrograde > planet it becomes more difficult to move forward. > 4. Retrograde planets have more surprises to offer > of an unexpected nature. > 5. As retrograde planets are closer to Earth they > emphasize some aspect of > the natives individuality which is more unique to > the native's character. A > retrograde planet operates in a manner that is in > reverse of, or different > from, the collective trend or mentality, thereby > individualizing the native. > 6. A retrograde planet is traveling back over a > portion of space that it has > just crossed. This emphasizes a more powerful past > life influence with > lessons and talents that are of greater importance > to develop and use in > this lifetime. > 7. Retrograde planets often have the capacity to > bring something that was in > use in the past into the present. They are therefore > more inclined to prompt > interests that are from an older time or culture > than a direct planet. > > - > "Shailesh K Parekh" <shailesh > <gjlist> > Monday, November 26, 2001 1:26 AM > Re: [GJ] Retrograde Planets > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Krishna, > > > > Mantreswara states in his observation that a > retrograde planet not only > > possesses strength but produces effects similar to > those of exaltation > even > > though such a planet be debilitated or occupy an > inimical place. > > > > Kalyanavarma goes a step further in holding that > retrograde benefics > confer > > political power while retrograde malefics cause > sorrow and aimless > === message truncated === GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities./ps/info1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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