Good Yogas in Dustantha Lord of 9th & 10th in 6th house

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Respected Gurus,

I would appreciate if someone can shed some light on this

issue.

Which is more dominant .....House placement of the planets or their

Yogas???? Are good yogas capable of overcoming the dustanthas occupied by

the planets ????

For Virgo lagna Me and Ve placed in 6th , Moon Placed in 12th, Ju placed in

8th.All the benifics even though occupied dustantha , aspect each other and

for good yogas

 

Yogas of 9th and 10th lord

Yogas of 2nd and 11th lord

overall 1st,2nd,9th ,10th ,11th lord in combination

 

 

Good Yogas in Dustantha ...........

 

Lord of 11th went to 12th and lord of 2nd went to 6th but now they aspects

each other .....is it a good yoga for income and money?

 

 

How will be the Chandra Dasha ?

 

 

Appriciate any feedback in this regards

 

Thanks & regards

 

manu

 

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Dear Manu

Normally Good Yogas need good house placements to fructify .Posession of a

yoga is only one factor .

Generally good Lords are wasted in dusthanas . The interaction of Good Lords

by aspect may be a strengthening feature for a chart

> For Virgo lagna Me and Ve placed in 6th , Moon Placed in 12th, Ju placed

in

> 8th.All the benifics even though occupied dustantha , aspect each other

and

> for good yogas

 

Jupiter aspecting so many planets may be good for spirituality and

renuciation

 

 

> Yogas of 9th and 10th lord

 

Native engages in beneficial works

 

> Yogas of 2nd and 11th lord

 

Wealth producing

> overall 1st,2nd,9th ,10th ,11th lord in combination

 

Produces good works that aid financially

> Lord of 11th went to 12th and lord of 2nd went to 6th but now they aspects

> each other .....is it a good yoga for income and money?

 

No .I would argue that bad placement is paramount here .

>

>

> How will be the Chandra Dasha ?

 

For Virgos Moon dasha is followed by Mars dasha which is 8th Lord .Candra

is 11th Lord (quite materialistic Lord) placed in the 12th which is the

house of moksha . Mars is the Lord of transformation .Try to see the

sequence . Candara dasha could see increased disinterest in material

attainments which then manifest as transformations to a more spiritual

outlook in Mars dasha .

 

These are clues .A complete analysis requires the chart .

Nicholas (not a respected Guru0

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Manu,

 

About the chart you described:

 

When Moon is in 12 or 2, then it forms a 12/2 relationship with the

Lagna. This is sometimes called "Dwirdwadashamsha", which is just saying

"12/2" really.

 

So, it means, that the Lagna is 2nd to the Moon, and the Moon is 12th to

the Lagna. So, the Moon is in a position to "drain" the lagna, or

participate with "Loss" for the person by participating with the persons

material 12th house.

 

The Lagna is "material" or the physical, and the Moon is more mental and

emotional.

 

So this means that the person identifies with that wavelength of reality

represented by their 12th sign, and in doing so, they cause problems

with their native birth situation or karma, or in other words, they are

emotionally and mentall opposed to their own birth karma. This dichotomy

is pretty major. People who have Moon in the 12th or 2nd moreso have a

mental life which is at odds with their external karma, moreso than

others.

 

This is therefore often found in the charts of persons who wish to get

away from something connected with their body, such as the families

religion, or their own looks or bodily nature, or their society. It's a

bit like having Ketu in the 1st in that way.

 

Because Chandra is placed like this, therefore the angles of the Moon

become all 12th from their angles, and the trines from the Moon are all

12th to their trines from the ascendent. So, this further shows, how

significant it is to have Moon in the 12th.

 

Those planets you mentioned, are all in 7 and 9 from the Moon, meaning,

they are placed pretty well, from the Moon, and the whole situation changes.

 

What I see in this case is that relationships the person is mentally and

emotionally drawn to are innappropriate for them materially perhaps, and

their inner sense of religion is different from their birth religion,

and so on.

 

Here's a list of famous people with Moon in 12th in Leo

 

Very famous:

 

Winston Churchill

John F. Kennedy

Rajiv Gandhi

 

Less so:

 

Shirley Maclaine

Pete Townshend

Stephen Stills

Robert Blake

Jose Ferrer

Victoria Abril

Deborah Kerr

Walter Koch

Jim Ryun

Jim Plunkett

Alan Dershowitz

Richard Bach

Rudolf Friml

Ira Von Furstenberg

Johnny Mathis

Birgit Nilsson

A. Roosevelt Longworth

Megan Marshack

Georges Simenon

 

 

I've noticed some famous, healthy people, who have alot of dustana

placements. There is the concept of Sarala Vipreet Raja Yoga, meaning,

when the dustana lords go to the other dustanas, it tends to create a

vacuum of those bad qualities. Some say this is because the dustanas are

harming each other, thus all evil is removed from the chart.

 

However, overall, Moon in 12 in Leo brings up a split between inner and

outer worlds, and between hopes and giving up, or donating self to some

cause, to gain one's true desires, I feel. ???

 

--

 

 

Das Goravani

 

 

ps: Are you the Manu Smith from Panorama farm in Badger? If so, I know

your parents from the old days. Anyway...

[Guest guest]

Om Gurave Namah--------------------------Dear Manu,

A Yoga shall dominate over any positional result. Specific house position tells

us other things about the nature and areas from where the yoga will fructify.

For example, in the sapta Rishi nadi, there is he discussion about the Guru

mangala Yoga and Atri Maharishi explains the greatness of this Yoga in the

sixth house...

Other points have been addressed by others.Best WishesSanjay Rath

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manu smith

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Saturday, October 27, 2001 5:58 AM

[GJ] Good Yogas in Dustantha Lord of 9th & 10th in 6th house

Respected Gurus, I would appreciate if someone can shed some

light on this issue.Which is more dominant .....House placement of the planets

or their Yogas???? Are good yogas capable of overcoming the dustanthas occupied

by the planets ????For Virgo lagna Me and Ve placed in 6th , Moon Placed in

12th, Ju placed in 8th.All the benifics even though occupied dustantha ,

aspect each other and for good yogasYogas of 9th and 10th lordYogas of 2nd and

11th lordoverall 1st,2nd,9th ,10th ,11th lord in combinationGood Yogas in

Dustantha ...........Lord of 11th went to 12th and lord of 2nd went to 6th but

now they aspects each other .....is it a good yoga for income and money?How

will be the Chandra Dasha ?Appriciate any feedback in this regardsThanks &

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Dear Manu,

when looking at any planet's house position it is the influences on it and

the yogas it is forming that indicate whether the planet will give good or

ill results. YOu will find that many successful peolpe have several planets

in dusthanas. EVERYTHING the planet is doing has to be taken into

consideration, not just the house placement from the lagna, which is just

one factor of many.

 

THere is a yoga:

Asubha Mala -inauspicious garland- Yoga: All the benefics in the 6th, 8th

and 12th houses.

"One will resort to bad ways, is unhappy, will tease or kill others, be

ungrateful, timid, without reverence for Brahmins, cursed, and fond of

quarrels."

 

BUt even with this yoga have been seen successful people.

Some people with planets in dusthanas: John Travolta, 3 planets in the 8th;

Hirohito, emperor of Japan with the three benefics in dustanas; Bruce Lee

with 3 benefics in dustanas. Geraldine Ferraro with three benefics in

dustanast, and the list goes on and on.

 

So success is not impossible when planets are in dusthanas, though the

elements of the house will always be part of the success.

 

Take Care,

Ernst Wilhelm

www.vedic astrology.net

 

 

 

- hc

"manu smith" <manu_smith

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Friday, October 26, 2001 5:28 PM

[GJ] Good Yogas in Dustantha Lord of 9th & 10th in 6th house

 

 

> Respected Gurus,

> I would appreciate if someone can shed some light on this

> issue.

> Which is more dominant .....House placement of the planets or their

> Yogas???? Are good yogas capable of overcoming the dustanthas occupied by

> the planets ????

> For Virgo lagna Me and Ve placed in 6th , Moon Placed in 12th, Ju placed

in

> 8th.All the benifics even though occupied dustantha , aspect each other

and

> for good yogas

>

> Yogas of 9th and 10th lord

> Yogas of 2nd and 11th lord

> overall 1st,2nd,9th ,10th ,11th lord in combination

>

>

> Good Yogas in Dustantha ...........

>

> Lord of 11th went to 12th and lord of 2nd went to 6th but now they aspects

> each other .....is it a good yoga for income and money?

>

>

> How will be the Chandra Dasha ?

>

>

> Appriciate any feedback in this regards

>

> Thanks & regards

>

> manu

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