Guest guest Posted October 11, 2001 Report Share Posted October 11, 2001 Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!! Namaste to all the beloved list members!!! i received this wonderful quote on the Amma list today...it is really appropriate to us as Jyotishis...it is really appropriate to the current world situation of violence and revenge...it says exactly what needs to be said...and it was said by a very Great American "Sadhu"..... Enjoy: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Hate multiplies hate, violence multiplies violence, and toughness multiplies toughness in a descending spiral of destruction... The chain reaction of evil -- hate begetting hate, wars producing more wars -- must be broken, or we shall be plunged into the darkness of annihilation. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ that was so well said, that there is no necessity for any commentary!!! in the Divine Mother's Love, and in Her Service, as ever, your own self, visvanathan Om Amrtesvaryai Namah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2001 Report Share Posted October 11, 2001 I appreciate the spirit of these comments from a hero of mine and yet we would be remiss to forget the example of Hitler in 1939. While it would be an overstatement to say that hate drove out hate, obviously the allies didn't defeat Hitler with love! Chris ps sorry if this is now an out of bounds topic... At 06:51 PM 10/11/01 -0000, you wrote: >Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!! > >Namaste to all the beloved list members!!! > >i received this wonderful quote on the Amma list today...it is really >appropriate to us as Jyotishis...it is really appropriate to the >current world situation of violence and revenge...it says exactly what >needs to be said...and it was said by a very Great American "Sadhu"..... >Enjoy: >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Darkness cannot drive out darkness; >only light can do that. >Hate cannot drive out hate; >only love can do that. >Hate multiplies hate, >violence multiplies violence, >and toughness multiplies toughness >in a descending spiral of destruction... >The chain reaction of evil -- >hate begetting hate, >wars producing more wars -- >must be broken, or we shall be plunged >into the darkness of annihilation. > >Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >that was so well said, that there is no necessity for any commentary!!! > >in the Divine Mother's Love, >and in Her Service, > >as ever, >your own self, > >visvanathan > >Om Amrtesvaryai Namah! > > > > > >gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2001 Report Share Posted October 11, 2001 gjlist, Christopher Kevill <ckevill@i...> wrote: > I appreciate the spirit of these comments from a hero of mine and yet we > would be remiss to forget the example of Hitler in 1939. Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!! Namaste dear Chris!!! as a fellow Canadian i must ask you in surprise...have you entirely bought the entire media blitz re the supposed Terrorists??? and do you really intend to compare bin Laden with HITLER???????? you and other members of the list might be interested in this web site for alternative views upon the current world situation.... http://www.commondreams.org/ it's a website of "progressive" views... don't you think there is altogether way TOO MUCH WAR hysteria already? this is why i posted that quote...because i intended that folks should have the opportunity to think about the situation from another angle!! trying to compare the Afghanis with Hitler is going just a bit too far, when we know the real role of big Business, and Big Oil, in these dealings... in the Divine Mother's Love, and in Her Service as ever, your own self, visvanathan Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 At 07:52 PM 10/11/01 -0000, you wrote: >gjlist, Christopher Kevill <ckevill@i...> wrote: >> I appreciate the spirit of these comments from a hero of mine and yet we >> would be remiss to forget the example of Hitler in 1939. > >Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!! > >Namaste dear Chris!!! > >as a fellow Canadian i must ask you in surprise...have you entirely >bought the entire media blitz re the supposed Terrorists??? Where are you, my fellow canuck? I'm in hated Toronto. Are you surprised that other people support the war? As far as I can tell, 80% or more Canadians support some military action. I suspect it's much the same in Europe. The time for peace and negotiation is over, sadly squandered by all sides over the past 20 years or more. I don't agree with US policy generally in the middle east, but what can you do? You have to accept the current circumstances as fact and go from there. You can't wish things were something other than they are. >and do you really intend to compare bin Laden with HITLER???????? I think Hitler commanded a more formidable army and powerful nation. But Bin Laden is clearly just as evil. He wants to kill civilians, he demeans religion as in instrument to attract support for his destruction. Sure, I don't buy all the propaganda out there and yes, the US obviously has oil interests there but all that doesn't speak to the obvious question of what we have to *do* in this moment to prevent Bin Laden and his boys from acting again. I know his movement was born of the poverty and envy in the middle east, but why should anyone stand idly by and let this nutbar do more damage? Love will not stop him right now, we lost our chance for that years ago. That is worth lamenting, I agree, but not to the point of inaction. My point is that Hitler could only be stopped by Mars in 1939 and so must Bin Laden. Maybe Venus could have produced results if it had been given a chance back in 1932 (although I doubt it.) I do hope that the US will quickly force the two sides in Israel to come together and get a solution -- even if it means angering Israel. > > >you and other members of the list might be interested in this web site >for alternative views upon the current world situation.... > > http://www.commondreams.org/ > >it's a website of "progressive" views... Thanks, yes that's a great site. I recommend it to all members. Chris > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 - Christopher Kevill I think Hitler commanded a more formidable army and powerful nation. Do you mean Aries-supernation- all nazi would agree. Many people disagreed with this even in Nazi-Germany (by the way what criteria do you use for your dare-to-compare nations?) May God help us all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2001 Report Share Posted October 13, 2001 In a message dated 10/11/01 3:58:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kasi_visvanath writes: <<> trying to compare the Afghanis with Hitler is going just a bit too > far, when we know the real role of big Business, and Big Oil, in these > dealings...>> As you know, Bin Laden is not an Afghani, is denounced by his very own family. Our parents lived during a war against the insanity that destroys innocent life. As grown children now, we must take up the task where murderous blood lust has broken out again, threatening innocents. At this time of great sorrow and stress upon world citizenry, the reasoning or justification which hate-filled criminals may use, in order to promote murder, is far less important than their actions. Those actions that murder innocent human lives MUST BE STOPPED. Later on you may speculate why criminals and their henchmen had such demented minds. But you cannot JUSTIFY crimes against innocents, and you cannot tolerate it in a country where the people themselves are considered the jewels of the country. Hate cannot drive out hate...and this is a lesson for the hate-filled criminals to learn! The criminals must come up to a higher understanding. The criminals must become ethical and life-revering, not anti-life. Being 'sweet and kind and sympathetic' to a killer is not going to stop him. He who lives by the sword must suffer his philosophy applied in turn, directly back to himself. Why doesn't the criminal just kill himself if he is so unhappy? Evil relishes spilled blood and gains strength from producing maximum agony. It must be STOPPED. I am not particular about how it is stopped, nor do I care what justifications anybody who loves murders may have to offer. Thanks for listening, my friends. A New Yorker by birth, Carol Hook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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