Anna re: Choudhry Astrology (SA)

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Dear Anna,

 

It is nice, as always, to hear from you!

 

At 12:52 PM 10/9/01 -0400, you wrote:

>Dear Robert,

>

>Thank you for sharing your opinion about SA. It can appeal to some novice

>astrologers, left without information what jyotish really is all about and

>what's not. SA has to borrow heavily, outside it's simply(fied)

>framework..to make it work, mildly speaking, IMHO.

>

>I know Robert how difficult it is for you to make judgments about

>others' work, but it is so valuable, and I truly appreciate you did that-

>instead of ignoring and letting "everything goes" attitude exists without

>comment.

 

Thank you for understanding clearly what I wrote. One of the hardest tasks

is to present an opposing opinion, or even an argument against someone

else's work, without being judgmental, or without offending the person. In

any case, reasonable people take the criticisms of SA that way, and not

some kind of elitist or patronizing condescension. The fact is, and as

Manoj pointed out also, the basic tenets of SA (System's Approach) deviate

from essential Parasari teachings, all of which comprise the art and

science of Jyotish. As das said, if we go deeper into what is taught, then

there is no need to extrapolate, or create new systems. You will hear SA

people say that by learning this system, you will be able to make extremely

and reliably accurate predictions. You certainly can do that with Jyotish

also (and I exclude SA from the category of Jyotish), yet predicting is

also a matter of individual talent, as well as a result of purity in habit,

lifestyle, sadhana, and consciousness. So no one has a brand name product

for predicting, although all the tools are given in BPHS and other classics.

 

>However, I wouldn't put SA in the same basket as using Jyotish and some

>western astr. concepts. I know you didn't like the case that I wrote you

>about: Progressed Mc is about to change sign (which always means

>significant change; at the same time progressed Venus makes trine with

>Natal Saturn- to give us additional info on a type of change expected).

>Now: jyotish registers change od period at the same time... we can predict

>time and change fairly accurately. I know you would say: I can do that

>without "mixing" jyotish with western, and I know you CAN. One

>less experienced, like myself, does benefit from both, and both ARE well

>established and proven systems.

>It's not like mixing "new invention" (for the sake of novelty, I would

>say) of jyotish, with true jyotish (where the rules are overwhelmed by

>exceptions, as is the case with lousy "systems". Know the rules first,

>than search for exemptions, fine tuning, etc.., I'd say).

 

Until a student learns and assimilates Jyotish fully, he/she will still

make use of techniques previously known and used, such as in your case,

where you are an accomplished western astrologer already. It is natural

that one will gravitate toward the systems in which he feels comfortable,

and which are reliable through time. I will venture to say this, however:

that eventually, you will give up western astrology completely, and use

Jyotish. Of course, that's presumptuous on my part, but I have seen it so

many times having had numerous students who came from western astrology

initially. This is not to diminish western astrology in any way - we are

talking about a natural evolution here. Eventually, in other words, you

align yourself fully with one system or the other. We are just scratching

the surface of Jyotish on this list - there is so much more, and the doors

are starting to open to those jewels, and they are all there in the BPHS

and Jaimini Sutram.

 

>Thank you for your post Robert: written with honesty and integrity, yet

>sensibly respectful, as always- enviable qualities so many of us, I am

>sure about that, appreciate so much.

 

Thank *you* Anna, always my pleasure to speak with you.

 

Best wishes,

Robert

 

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Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer

Faculty Member, SJVC and ACVA

Phone: 541-318-0248

visit <http://www.robertkoch.com> or e-mail

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