Guest guest Posted October 6, 2001 Report Share Posted October 6, 2001 Dear Narinder Juneja, thank you for your interest. I guess I was in a slight panic when I saw the chart. Later on it occurred to me that something might happen to her mother as well..... anyway, here are the complete data and thank you in advance for your much appreciated help. Female Place: Amsterdam, Holland (52N22, 4E54) > January 28, 1984 > Time: 11:51 (am) Zone 1.00 > Lagna: 28:53 Aries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2001 Report Share Posted October 6, 2001 Sanny: How are you doing these days? I took a look at this chart and it is under pressure at the moment, as you say. Using Houck's progressions, P3 Mc is squaring her Ketu right now and her minor progressed Asc is just past conjuncting her Rahu. This was exact two weeks ago. So it's possible that the worst of her mental stress is behind her. However, things are never completely clear in astrology. Her chart is unstable for a while. Saturn is aspecting her Moon-Ketu conj now and Pluto will be moving away from Ketu towards the Moon. Uranus is still squaring her Ascendant. This is obviously not an easy time for her. She's running Ven-Ven now and on the surface this ought to help her. It's in the 9th hemmed in by benefics Jupiter and Mercury, albeit aspected by Saturn. But Venus is in Ketu star and Ketu is in the 8th with that Moon. And look at the state of both of Venus' ruled signs, Libra and Taurus: they are filled with malefics, Rahu is Taurus, and Mars and Saturn in Libra. This creates problems for Venus during its dasha. Natally, this can be traced to her mental problems indicated by deb Moon in the 8th with Ketu and Uranus plus the fact that the 7th house is occupied by Mars and Saturn means big trouble from love. 7L Venus is closely conjunct Sag Jupiter in the 9th which does support the notion of a foreign partner, but it will be anything but smooth sailing. I'm not optimistic about her long term happiness with this guy. But it still might be the best thing to do for now. As for whether she will stay abroad, I think the answer is yes. Her 4L is Moon and that's conjunct Ketu, that's a separative influence for sure. Using chandra lagna, 4th from Moon is Aquarius and its lord Saturn is afflicted by Mars in the 12th. Maybe her luck will change in the US. Where is she going to there, perhaps it's worth casting a relocated chart? Chris At 03:01 PM 10/5/01 +0200, you wrote: >Hi, >I'm very confused about a chart of a young girl. She's in big trouble and I >am not good enough as a vedic astrologer to give the right interpretation of >her chart. Let me fill you in on her past year: >After finishing high school, she went abroad for a year and had a great >time. This started in July 2000. In between she had to come home because of >an illness. She went back, resumed her great time and fell in love. She >returned to her home in June 2001. She was admitted to a prestigious school >(September) and is getting more and more (seriously) depressed. She will be >visiting her boyfriend in the states soon. She is seventeen and people >around her are very worried sick about her. Transiting Saturn is aspecting >her Moon (conj. Ketu) in the 8th. Will she stop studying? Will she go/stay >abroad? > >Place: Amsterdam >January 28, 1984 >Time: 11:51 (am) Zone 1.00 >Lagna: 28:53 Aries > >I sincerely hope somebody can be of help. >Thank you in advance, > >Sanny > > > > > >gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2001 Report Share Posted October 6, 2001 Hi Chris, Thanks for looking at the chart. So it might be 'bye bye University'.... And Hello Los Angelos........ Boyfriend is in Los Angelos (she is 17, he is 19 still living with his folks). When I look at the chart she should be quite capable of earning her own money and rise to a good position. But you have to admit, the girl is quite young. Could you explain something else to me. She is running Venus-venus-Jupiter now. This Jupiter of hers doesn't look bad or weak at all. Still the trouble started almost at the beginning of the Jupiter period. I know you are not so much into the third level. And you know I'm not good enough yet, but it was striking. Do you think something might happen to her mother too, or will it just be separation from her mother? I know, lots of questions, but I care about this child... -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Christopher Kevill [ckevill] Verzonden: zaterdag 6 oktober 2001 18:57 Aan: gjlist Onderwerp: Re: [gjlist] can somebody help me, please? Sanny: How are you doing these days? I took a look at this chart and it is under pressure at the moment, as you say. Using Houck's progressions, P3 Mc is squaring her Ketu right now and her minor progressed Asc is just past conjuncting her Rahu. This was exact two weeks ago. So it's possible that the worst of her mental stress is behind her. However, things are never completely clear in astrology. Her chart is unstable for a while. Saturn is aspecting her Moon-Ketu conj now and Pluto will be moving away from Ketu towards the Moon. Uranus is still squaring her Ascendant. This is obviously not an easy time for her. She's running Ven-Ven now and on the surface this ought to help her. It's in the 9th hemmed in by benefics Jupiter and Mercury, albeit aspected by Saturn. But Venus is in Ketu star and Ketu is in the 8th with that Moon. And look at the state of both of Venus' ruled signs, Libra and Taurus: they are filled with malefics, Rahu is Taurus, and Mars and Saturn in Libra. This creates problems for Venus during its dasha. Natally, this can be traced to her mental problems indicated by deb Moon in the 8th with Ketu and Uranus plus the fact that the 7th house is occupied by Mars and Saturn means big trouble from love. 7L Venus is closely conjunct Sag Jupiter in the 9th which does support the notion of a foreign partner, but it will be anything but smooth sailing. I'm not optimistic about her long term happiness with this guy. But it still might be the best thing to do for now. As for whether she will stay abroad, I think the answer is yes. Her 4L is Moon and that's conjunct Ketu, that's a separative influence for sure. Using chandra lagna, 4th from Moon is Aquarius and its lord Saturn is afflicted by Mars in the 12th. Maybe her luck will change in the US. Where is she going to there, perhaps it's worth casting a relocated chart? Chris At 03:01 PM 10/5/01 +0200, you wrote: >Hi, >I'm very confused about a chart of a young girl. She's in big trouble and I >am not good enough as a vedic astrologer to give the right interpretation of >her chart. Let me fill you in on her past year: >After finishing high school, she went abroad for a year and had a great >time. This started in July 2000. In between she had to come home because of >an illness. She went back, resumed her great time and fell in love. She >returned to her home in June 2001. She was admitted to a prestigious school >(September) and is getting more and more (seriously) depressed. She will be >visiting her boyfriend in the states soon. She is seventeen and people >around her are very worried sick about her. Transiting Saturn is aspecting >her Moon (conj. Ketu) in the 8th. Will she stop studying? Will she go/stay >abroad? > >Place: Amsterdam >January 28, 1984 >Time: 11:51 (am) Zone 1.00 >Lagna: 28:53 Aries > >I sincerely hope somebody can be of help. >Thank you in advance, > >Sanny > > > > > >gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > gjlist- Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2001 Report Share Posted October 6, 2001 Dear Narinder, I guess, it is Holland aka Netherlands Best Regards, Venkat > Please mention the country of Amsterdam as there are more than 50 places of > such names. > > > With Best Wishes > > Narinder Juneja > > www.mywebastrologer.com > - > Sanny Fortuin <babyscoop@p...> > <gjlist> > Friday, October 05, 2001 6:31 PM > [gjlist] can somebody help me, please? > > > > Hi, > > I'm very confused about a chart of a young girl. She's in big trouble and > I > > am not good enough as a vedic astrologer to give the right interpretation > of > > her chart. Let me fill you in on her past year: > > After finishing high school, she went abroad for a year and had a great > > time. This started in July 2000. In between she had to come home because > of > > an illness. She went back, resumed her great time and fell in love. She > > returned to her home in June 2001. She was admitted to a prestigious > school > > (September) and is getting more and more (seriously) depressed. She will > be > > visiting her boyfriend in the states soon. She is seventeen and people > > around her are very worried sick about her. Transiting Saturn is aspecting > > her Moon (conj. Ketu) in the 8th. Will she stop studying? Will she go/stay > > abroad? > > > > Place: Amsterdam > > January 28, 1984 > > Time: 11:51 (am) Zone 1.00 > > Lagna: 28:53 Aries > > > > I sincerely hope somebody can be of help. > > Thank you in advance, > > > > Sanny > > > > > > > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2001 Report Share Posted October 7, 2001 Yes indeed, it is Amsterdam - Holland. Thank you. I'm looking forward to your interpretation. Sanny -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Venkateshwara A Reddy [venkateshwara_reddy] Verzonden: zondag 7 oktober 2001 5:20 Aan: gjlist Onderwerp: [gjlist] Re: can somebody help me, please? Dear Narinder, I guess, it is Holland aka Netherlands Best Regards, Venkat > Please mention the country of Amsterdam as there are more than 50 places of > such names. > > > With Best Wishes > > Narinder Juneja > > www.mywebastrologer.com > - > Sanny Fortuin <babyscoop@p...> > <gjlist> > Friday, October 05, 2001 6:31 PM > [gjlist] can somebody help me, please? > > > > Hi, > > I'm very confused about a chart of a young girl. She's in big trouble and > I > > am not good enough as a vedic astrologer to give the right interpretation > of > > her chart. Let me fill you in on her past year: > > After finishing high school, she went abroad for a year and had a great > > time. This started in July 2000. In between she had to come home because > of > > an illness. She went back, resumed her great time and fell in love. She > > returned to her home in June 2001. She was admitted to a prestigious > school > > (September) and is getting more and more (seriously) depressed. She will > be > > visiting her boyfriend in the states soon. She is seventeen and people > > around her are very worried sick about her. Transiting Saturn is aspecting > > her Moon (conj. Ketu) in the 8th. Will she stop studying? Will she go/stay > > abroad? > > > > Place: Amsterdam > > January 28, 1984 > > Time: 11:51 (am) Zone 1.00 > > Lagna: 28:53 Aries > > > > I sincerely hope somebody can be of help. > > Thank you in advance, > > > > Sanny > > > > > > > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > gjlist- Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2001 Report Share Posted October 8, 2001 It seems her time of birth needs rectification as the current reporting time of 11.51 am does not indicate obstruction in health, emotions, depression and diff. of opinion in life. If we take 11.56 am, then the obstructions in these matters are indicative because current period lord malefic Venus/Venus which starts from 10/1999 to 2/2003. Malefic Venus(lord of health & sig. for love life) and Jupiter (lord of obstructions) are conjunct & deteorating the significance of each other in 8th house(house of obstruction) and simultaneously benefic Moon is also under influence of malefic Rahu,Ketu. According to above rectified chart and in its combinations the current period of Venus seems difficult in the matter of study, health, emotions and others. Astral remedies can give her a releif in sailing a smooth life. With Best Wishes Narinder Juneja www.MyWebAstrologer.com - Sanny Fortuin <babyscoop <gjlist> Monday, October 08, 2001 2:23 AM RE: [gjlist] Re: can somebody help me, please? > Yes indeed, it is Amsterdam - Holland. Thank you. I'm looking forward to > your interpretation. > Sanny > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Venkateshwara A Reddy [venkateshwara_reddy] > Verzonden: zondag 7 oktober 2001 5:20 > Aan: gjlist > Onderwerp: [gjlist] Re: can somebody help me, please? > > Dear Narinder, > I guess, it is Holland aka Netherlands > > Best Regards, Venkat > > > Please mention the country of Amsterdam as there are more than 50 > places of > > such names. > > > > > > With Best Wishes > > > > Narinder Juneja > > > > www.mywebastrologer.com > > - > > Sanny Fortuin <babyscoop@p...> > > <gjlist> > > Friday, October 05, 2001 6:31 PM > > [gjlist] can somebody help me, please? > > > > > > > Hi, > > > I'm very confused about a chart of a young girl. She's in big > trouble and > > I > > > am not good enough as a vedic astrologer to give the right > interpretation > > of > > > her chart. Let me fill you in on her past year: > > > After finishing high school, she went abroad for a year and had a > great > > > time. This started in July 2000. In between she had to come home > because > > of > > > an illness. She went back, resumed her great time and fell in > love. She > > > returned to her home in June 2001. She was admitted to a > prestigious > > school > > > (September) and is getting more and more (seriously) depressed. > She will > > be > > > visiting her boyfriend in the states soon. She is seventeen and > people > > > around her are very worried sick about her. Transiting Saturn is > aspecting > > > her Moon (conj. Ketu) in the 8th. Will she stop studying? Will > she go/stay > > > abroad? > > > > > > Place: Amsterdam > > > January 28, 1984 > > > Time: 11:51 (am) Zone 1.00 > > > Lagna: 28:53 Aries > > > > > > I sincerely hope somebody can be of help. > > > Thank you in advance, > > > > > > Sanny > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2001 Report Share Posted October 8, 2001 Even when the reported time of birth is not correct, still astral remedies can work. This seems a bit strange to me. Manoj --- Narinder Juneja <pbk wrote: > It seems her time of birth needs rectification as > the current reporting time > of 11.51 am does not indicate obstruction in health, > emotions, depression > and diff. of opinion in life. > > If we take 11.56 am, then the obstructions in these > matters are indicative > because current period lord malefic Venus/Venus > which starts from 10/1999 to > 2/2003. Malefic Venus(lord of health & sig. for love > life) and Jupiter (lord > of obstructions) are conjunct & deteorating the > significance of each other > in 8th house(house of obstruction) and > simultaneously benefic Moon is also > under influence of malefic Rahu,Ketu. > > According to above rectified chart and in its > combinations the current > period of Venus seems difficult in the matter of > study, health, emotions and > others. > > Astral remedies can give her a releif in sailing a > smooth life. > > With Best Wishes > > Narinder Juneja > > www.MyWebAstrologer.com > > - > Sanny Fortuin <babyscoop > <gjlist> > Monday, October 08, 2001 2:23 AM > RE: [gjlist] Re: can somebody help me, > please? > > > > Yes indeed, it is Amsterdam - Holland. Thank you. > I'm looking forward to > > your interpretation. > > Sanny > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > > Van: Venkateshwara A Reddy > [venkateshwara_reddy] > > Verzonden: zondag 7 oktober 2001 5:20 > > Aan: gjlist > > Onderwerp: [gjlist] Re: can somebody help me, > please? > > > > Dear Narinder, > > I guess, it is Holland aka Netherlands > > > > Best Regards, Venkat > > > > > Please mention the country of Amsterdam as there > are more than 50 > > places of > > > such names. > > > > > > > > > With Best Wishes > > > > > > Narinder Juneja > > > > > > www.mywebastrologer.com > > > - > > > Sanny Fortuin <babyscoop@p...> > > > <gjlist> > > > Friday, October 05, 2001 6:31 PM > > > [gjlist] can somebody help me, please? > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm very confused about a chart of a young > girl. She's in big > > trouble and > > > I > > > > am not good enough as a vedic astrologer to > give the right > > interpretation > > > of > > > > her chart. Let me fill you in on her past > year: > > > > After finishing high school, she went abroad > for a year and had a > > great > > > > time. This started in July 2000. In between > she had to come home > > because > > > of > > > > an illness. She went back, resumed her great > time and fell in > > love. She > > > > returned to her home in June 2001. She was > admitted to a > > prestigious > > > school > > > > (September) and is getting more and more > (seriously) depressed. > > She will > > > be > > > > visiting her boyfriend in the states soon. She > is seventeen and > > people > > > > around her are very worried sick about her. > Transiting Saturn is > > aspecting > > > > her Moon (conj. Ketu) in the 8th. Will she > stop studying? Will > > she go/stay > > > > abroad? > > > > > > > > Place: Amsterdam > > > > January 28, 1984 > > > > Time: 11:51 (am) Zone 1.00 > > > > Lagna: 28:53 Aries > > > > > > > > I sincerely hope somebody can be of help. > > > > Thank you in advance, > > > > > > > > Sanny > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To from this group, send an email > to: > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > NEW from GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities./ps/info1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2001 Report Share Posted October 8, 2001 > Even when the reported time of birth is not correct, > still astral remedies can work. This seems a bit > strange to me. Astral remedies = Black/White MagicK? Best Regards, Venkat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2001 Report Share Posted October 8, 2001 Sanny: At 08:54 PM 10/6/01 +0200, you wrote: >Hi Chris, >Thanks for looking at the chart. So it might be 'bye bye University'.... And >Hello Los Angelos........ >Boyfriend is in Los Angelos (she is 17, he is 19 still living with his >folks). When I look at the chart she should be quite capable of earning her >own money and rise to a good position. But you have to admit, the girl is >quite young. Could you explain something else to me. She is running >Venus-venus-Jupiter now. This Jupiter of hers doesn't look bad or weak at >all. Still the trouble started almost at the beginning of the Jupiter >period. I know you are not so much into the third level. And you know I'm >not good enough yet, but it was striking. Yeah, I don't really bother with the 3rd level much but that Jupiter has to be a bit strange because of its close Pluto sextile and its close conjunction with Neptune. Not jyotish, but still important. I would also point out that Jupiter is in Mula which is owned by Ketu and that's conjunct a fallen Moon in the 8th house. Not a happy place for a star lord of a planet. So there's two good reasons why Jupiter's period may not live up to its neon billing in the 9th house. To check and see if Jupiter is really the problem, though, I would ask her about her Jupiter bhuktie, from summer of 96 to summer of 97. How was her life, and how was her 9L father's life? Do you think something might >happen to her mother too, or will it just be separation from her mother? I >know, lots of questions, but I care about this child... It's a classic problem of course, distinguishing between these two, both represented by the 4th house and the Moon. I really can't say. I would lean towards simple separation and moving if only because you've basically said a trip is in the cards. OTOH, if you look at the D-12 IC 20Ta12(i.e. 4th house representing mother), this is very close to where Saturn is currently transiting. But that might be coincidental... D-12 4L Mercury 7Le07 is being trined by Ketu. But maybe it only means she won't see her mother for a long time. Keep me posted on the developments. Wishing her all the best. Chris > >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: Christopher Kevill [ckevill] >Verzonden: zaterdag 6 oktober 2001 18:57 >Aan: gjlist >Onderwerp: Re: [gjlist] can somebody help me, please? > >Sanny: > >How are you doing these days? I took a look at this chart and it is under >pressure at the moment, as you say. Using Houck's progressions, P3 Mc is >squaring her Ketu right now and her minor progressed Asc is just past >conjuncting her Rahu. This was exact two weeks ago. So it's possible that >the worst of her mental stress is behind her. However, things are never >completely clear in astrology. Her chart is unstable for a while. Saturn >is aspecting her Moon-Ketu conj now and Pluto will be moving away from Ketu >towards the Moon. Uranus is still squaring her Ascendant. This is >obviously not an easy time for her. > >She's running Ven-Ven now and on the surface this ought to help her. It's >in the 9th hemmed in by benefics Jupiter and Mercury, albeit aspected by >Saturn. But Venus is in Ketu star and Ketu is in the 8th with that Moon. >And look at the state of both of Venus' ruled signs, Libra and Taurus: they >are filled with malefics, Rahu is Taurus, and Mars and Saturn in Libra. >This creates problems for Venus during its dasha. Natally, this can be >traced to her mental problems indicated by deb Moon in the 8th with Ketu >and Uranus plus the fact that the 7th house is occupied by Mars and Saturn >means big trouble from love. 7L Venus is closely conjunct Sag Jupiter in >the 9th which does support the notion of a foreign partner, but it will be >anything but smooth sailing. I'm not optimistic about her long term >happiness with this guy. But it still might be the best thing to do for >now. > >As for whether she will stay abroad, I think the answer is yes. Her 4L is >Moon and that's conjunct Ketu, that's a separative influence for sure. >Using chandra lagna, 4th from Moon is Aquarius and its lord Saturn is >afflicted by Mars in the 12th. Maybe her luck will change in the US. >Where is she going to there, perhaps it's worth casting a relocated chart? > >Chris > > At 03:01 PM 10/5/01 +0200, you wrote: >>Hi, >>I'm very confused about a chart of a young girl. She's in big trouble and I >>am not good enough as a vedic astrologer to give the right interpretation >of >>her chart. Let me fill you in on her past year: >>After finishing high school, she went abroad for a year and had a great >>time. This started in July 2000. In between she had to come home because of >>an illness. She went back, resumed her great time and fell in love. She >>returned to her home in June 2001. She was admitted to a prestigious school >>(September) and is getting more and more (seriously) depressed. She will be >>visiting her boyfriend in the states soon. She is seventeen and people >>around her are very worried sick about her. Transiting Saturn is aspecting >>her Moon (conj. Ketu) in the 8th. Will she stop studying? Will she go/stay >>abroad? >> >>Place: Amsterdam >>January 28, 1984 >>Time: 11:51 (am) Zone 1.00 >>Lagna: 28:53 Aries >> >>I sincerely hope somebody can be of help. >>Thank you in advance, >> >>Sanny >> >> >> >> >> >>gjlist- >> >> >> >>Your use of is subject to >> >> >> >> > > >gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > >gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2001 Report Share Posted October 9, 2001 Dear Manoj, Astral remedies will be prescribed according to the rectified chart. Hope this helps. With Best Wishes Narinder Juneja www.MyWebAstrologer.com - Manoj Kumar <mouji99 <gjlist> Monday, October 08, 2001 2:15 PM Re: [gjlist] Re: can somebody help me, please? > Even when the reported time of birth is not correct, > still astral remedies can work. This seems a bit > strange to me. > > Manoj > --- Narinder Juneja <pbk wrote: > > It seems her time of birth needs rectification as > > the current reporting time > > of 11.51 am does not indicate obstruction in health, > > emotions, depression > > and diff. of opinion in life. > > > > If we take 11.56 am, then the obstructions in these > > matters are indicative > > because current period lord malefic Venus/Venus > > which starts from 10/1999 to > > 2/2003. Malefic Venus(lord of health & sig. for love > > life) and Jupiter (lord > > of obstructions) are conjunct & deteorating the > > significance of each other > > in 8th house(house of obstruction) and > > simultaneously benefic Moon is also > > under influence of malefic Rahu,Ketu. > > > > According to above rectified chart and in its > > combinations the current > > period of Venus seems difficult in the matter of > > study, health, emotions and > > others. > > > > Astral remedies can give her a releif in sailing a > > smooth life. > > > > With Best Wishes > > > > Narinder Juneja > > > > www.MyWebAstrologer.com > > > > - > > Sanny Fortuin <babyscoop > > <gjlist> > > Monday, October 08, 2001 2:23 AM > > RE: [gjlist] Re: can somebody help me, > > please? > > > > > > > Yes indeed, it is Amsterdam - Holland. Thank you. > > I'm looking forward to > > > your interpretation. > > > Sanny > > > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > > > Van: Venkateshwara A Reddy > > [venkateshwara_reddy] > > > Verzonden: zondag 7 oktober 2001 5:20 > > > Aan: gjlist > > > Onderwerp: [gjlist] Re: can somebody help me, > > please? > > > > > > Dear Narinder, > > > I guess, it is Holland aka Netherlands > > > > > > Best Regards, Venkat > > > > > > > Please mention the country of Amsterdam as there > > are more than 50 > > > places of > > > > such names. > > > > > > > > > > > > With Best Wishes > > > > > > > > Narinder Juneja > > > > > > > > www.mywebastrologer.com > > > > - > > > > Sanny Fortuin <babyscoop@p...> > > > > <gjlist> > > > > Friday, October 05, 2001 6:31 PM > > > > [gjlist] can somebody help me, please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > I'm very confused about a chart of a young > > girl. She's in big > > > trouble and > > > > I > > > > > am not good enough as a vedic astrologer to > > give the right > > > interpretation > > > > of > > > > > her chart. Let me fill you in on her past > > year: > > > > > After finishing high school, she went abroad > > for a year and had a > > > great > > > > > time. This started in July 2000. In between > > she had to come home > > > because > > > > of > > > > > an illness. She went back, resumed her great > > time and fell in > > > love. She > > > > > returned to her home in June 2001. She was > > admitted to a > > > prestigious > > > > school > > > > > (September) and is getting more and more > > (seriously) depressed. > > > She will > > > > be > > > > > visiting her boyfriend in the states soon. She > > is seventeen and > > > people > > > > > around her are very worried sick about her. > > Transiting Saturn is > > > aspecting > > > > > her Moon (conj. Ketu) in the 8th. Will she > > stop studying? Will > > > she go/stay > > > > > abroad? > > > > > > > > > > Place: Amsterdam > > > > > January 28, 1984 > > > > > Time: 11:51 (am) Zone 1.00 > > > > > Lagna: 28:53 Aries > > > > > > > > > > I sincerely hope somebody can be of help. > > > > > Thank you in advance, > > > > > > > > > > Sanny > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To from this group, send an email > > to: > > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > NEW from GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. > http://geocities./ps/info1 > > > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2001 Report Share Posted October 9, 2001 This girl lived with her father and his second wife. He did not take much notice of her and she and the lady hated each other. End of February 1996 the lady moved out (with a child - the girl's stepbrother). She was alone with her father and had a great time. I think that must have been for a couple of months. Somewhere in that year her father got ill and a new girlfriend of his moved in with them. For the girl the good times were over. About her father you could say in general: rich, great in business, two devorces, his dauhter (the one we are talking about adores him and he practically ignores her. The February thing she remembers very well, but not the dates/months of the rest of the year. Is this helpful? -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Christopher Kevill [ckevill] Verzonden: dinsdag 9 oktober 2001 3:05 Aan: gjlist Onderwerp: RE: [gjlist] can somebody help me, please? Sanny: At 08:54 PM 10/6/01 +0200, you wrote: >Hi Chris, >Thanks for looking at the chart. So it might be 'bye bye University'.... And >Hello Los Angelos........ >Boyfriend is in Los Angelos (she is 17, he is 19 still living with his >folks). When I look at the chart she should be quite capable of earning her >own money and rise to a good position. But you have to admit, the girl is >quite young. Could you explain something else to me. She is running >Venus-venus-Jupiter now. This Jupiter of hers doesn't look bad or weak at >all. Still the trouble started almost at the beginning of the Jupiter >period. I know you are not so much into the third level. And you know I'm >not good enough yet, but it was striking. Yeah, I don't really bother with the 3rd level much but that Jupiter has to be a bit strange because of its close Pluto sextile and its close conjunction with Neptune. Not jyotish, but still important. I would also point out that Jupiter is in Mula which is owned by Ketu and that's conjunct a fallen Moon in the 8th house. Not a happy place for a star lord of a planet. So there's two good reasons why Jupiter's period may not live up to its neon billing in the 9th house. To check and see if Jupiter is really the problem, though, I would ask her about her Jupiter bhuktie, from summer of 96 to summer of 97. How was her life, and how was her 9L father's life? Do you think something might >happen to her mother too, or will it just be separation from her mother? I >know, lots of questions, but I care about this child... It's a classic problem of course, distinguishing between these two, both represented by the 4th house and the Moon. I really can't say. I would lean towards simple separation and moving if only because you've basically said a trip is in the cards. OTOH, if you look at the D-12 IC 20Ta12(i.e. 4th house representing mother), this is very close to where Saturn is currently transiting. But that might be coincidental... D-12 4L Mercury 7Le07 is being trined by Ketu. But maybe it only means she won't see her mother for a long time. Keep me posted on the developments. Wishing her all the best. Chris > >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: Christopher Kevill [ckevill] >Verzonden: zaterdag 6 oktober 2001 18:57 >Aan: gjlist >Onderwerp: Re: [gjlist] can somebody help me, please? > >Sanny: > >How are you doing these days? I took a look at this chart and it is under >pressure at the moment, as you say. Using Houck's progressions, P3 Mc is >squaring her Ketu right now and her minor progressed Asc is just past >conjuncting her Rahu. This was exact two weeks ago. So it's possible that >the worst of her mental stress is behind her. However, things are never >completely clear in astrology. Her chart is unstable for a while. Saturn >is aspecting her Moon-Ketu conj now and Pluto will be moving away from Ketu >towards the Moon. Uranus is still squaring her Ascendant. This is >obviously not an easy time for her. > >She's running Ven-Ven now and on the surface this ought to help her. It's >in the 9th hemmed in by benefics Jupiter and Mercury, albeit aspected by >Saturn. But Venus is in Ketu star and Ketu is in the 8th with that Moon. >And look at the state of both of Venus' ruled signs, Libra and Taurus: they >are filled with malefics, Rahu is Taurus, and Mars and Saturn in Libra. >This creates problems for Venus during its dasha. Natally, this can be >traced to her mental problems indicated by deb Moon in the 8th with Ketu >and Uranus plus the fact that the 7th house is occupied by Mars and Saturn >means big trouble from love. 7L Venus is closely conjunct Sag Jupiter in >the 9th which does support the notion of a foreign partner, but it will be >anything but smooth sailing. I'm not optimistic about her long term >happiness with this guy. But it still might be the best thing to do for >now. > >As for whether she will stay abroad, I think the answer is yes. Her 4L is >Moon and that's conjunct Ketu, that's a separative influence for sure. >Using chandra lagna, 4th from Moon is Aquarius and its lord Saturn is >afflicted by Mars in the 12th. Maybe her luck will change in the US. >Where is she going to there, perhaps it's worth casting a relocated chart? > >Chris > > At 03:01 PM 10/5/01 +0200, you wrote: >>Hi, >>I'm very confused about a chart of a young girl. She's in big trouble and I >>am not good enough as a vedic astrologer to give the right interpretation >of >>her chart. Let me fill you in on her past year: >>After finishing high school, she went abroad for a year and had a great >>time. This started in July 2000. In between she had to come home because of >>an illness. She went back, resumed her great time and fell in love. She >>returned to her home in June 2001. She was admitted to a prestigious school >>(September) and is getting more and more (seriously) depressed. She will be >>visiting her boyfriend in the states soon. She is seventeen and people >>around her are very worried sick about her. Transiting Saturn is aspecting >>her Moon (conj. Ketu) in the 8th. Will she stop studying? Will she go/stay >>abroad? >> >>Place: Amsterdam >>January 28, 1984 >>Time: 11:51 (am) Zone 1.00 >>Lagna: 28:53 Aries >> >>I sincerely hope somebody can be of help. >>Thank you in advance, >> >>Sanny >> >> >> >> >> >>gjlist- >> >> >> >>Your use of is subject to >> >> >> >> > > >gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > >gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > gjlist- Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2001 Report Share Posted October 10, 2001 Sanny: As far as the girl's life during a Jupiter sub period, it sounds a bit difficult but not traumatic. So that doesn't really fit with what is going on now in her subsubperiod of Jupiter. It's not totally inconsistent, but it doesn't really provide a lot of reliable information. The other problem is that when the native is still a minor, many of the indications of dashas will be acted out by the parent. So it's possible that her father's illness at that time is mirrored by her present difficulties, although I gather he was quite successful in the material world which perhaps this girl isn't quite yet. Anyway, it does underline the importance of looking at other factors besides Jupiter's sign and house placement. Wish I could be more helpful. Chris At 01:19 PM 10/9/01 +0200, you wrote: >This girl lived with her father and his second wife. He did not take much >notice of her and she and the lady hated each other. End of February 1996 >the lady moved out (with a child - the girl's stepbrother). She was alone >with her father and had a great time. I think that must have been for a >couple of months. Somewhere in that year her father got ill and a new >girlfriend of his moved in with them. For the girl the good times were over. >About her father you could say in general: rich, great in business, two >devorces, his dauhter (the one we are talking about adores him and he >practically ignores her. >The February thing she remembers very well, but not the dates/months of the >rest of the year. Is this helpful? > >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: Christopher Kevill [ckevill] >Verzonden: dinsdag 9 oktober 2001 3:05 >Aan: gjlist >Onderwerp: RE: [gjlist] can somebody help me, please? > >Sanny: > >At 08:54 PM 10/6/01 +0200, you wrote: >>Hi Chris, >>Thanks for looking at the chart. So it might be 'bye bye University'.... >And >>Hello Los Angelos........ >>Boyfriend is in Los Angelos (she is 17, he is 19 still living with his >>folks). When I look at the chart she should be quite capable of earning her >>own money and rise to a good position. But you have to admit, the girl is >>quite young. Could you explain something else to me. She is running >>Venus-venus-Jupiter now. This Jupiter of hers doesn't look bad or weak at >>all. Still the trouble started almost at the beginning of the Jupiter >>period. I know you are not so much into the third level. And you know I'm >>not good enough yet, but it was striking. > >Yeah, I don't really bother with the 3rd level much but that Jupiter has to >be a bit strange because of its close Pluto sextile and its close >conjunction with Neptune. Not jyotish, but still important. I would also >point out that Jupiter is in Mula which is owned by Ketu and that's >conjunct a fallen Moon in the 8th house. Not a happy place for a star lord >of a planet. So there's two good reasons why Jupiter's period may not live >up to its neon billing in the 9th house. To check and see if Jupiter is >really the problem, though, I would ask her about her Jupiter bhuktie, from >summer of 96 to summer of 97. How was her life, and how was her 9L >father's life? > >Do you think something might >>happen to her mother too, or will it just be separation from her mother? I >>know, lots of questions, but I care about this child... > > >It's a classic problem of course, distinguishing between these two, both >represented by the 4th house and the Moon. I really can't say. I would >lean towards simple separation and moving if only because you've basically >said a trip is in the cards. OTOH, if you look at the D-12 IC 20Ta12(i.e. >4th house representing mother), this is very close to where Saturn is >currently transiting. But that might be coincidental... D-12 4L Mercury >7Le07 is being trined by Ketu. But maybe it only means she won't see her >mother for a long time. > >Keep me posted on the developments. Wishing her all the best. > >Chris > >> >>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>Van: Christopher Kevill [ckevill] >>Verzonden: zaterdag 6 oktober 2001 18:57 >>Aan: gjlist >>Onderwerp: Re: [gjlist] can somebody help me, please? >> >>Sanny: >> >>How are you doing these days? I took a look at this chart and it is under >>pressure at the moment, as you say. Using Houck's progressions, P3 Mc is >>squaring her Ketu right now and her minor progressed Asc is just past >>conjuncting her Rahu. This was exact two weeks ago. So it's possible that >>the worst of her mental stress is behind her. However, things are never >>completely clear in astrology. Her chart is unstable for a while. Saturn >>is aspecting her Moon-Ketu conj now and Pluto will be moving away from Ketu >>towards the Moon. Uranus is still squaring her Ascendant. This is >>obviously not an easy time for her. >> >>She's running Ven-Ven now and on the surface this ought to help her. It's >>in the 9th hemmed in by benefics Jupiter and Mercury, albeit aspected by >>Saturn. But Venus is in Ketu star and Ketu is in the 8th with that Moon. >>And look at the state of both of Venus' ruled signs, Libra and Taurus: they >>are filled with malefics, Rahu is Taurus, and Mars and Saturn in Libra. >>This creates problems for Venus during its dasha. Natally, this can be >>traced to her mental problems indicated by deb Moon in the 8th with Ketu >>and Uranus plus the fact that the 7th house is occupied by Mars and Saturn >>means big trouble from love. 7L Venus is closely conjunct Sag Jupiter in >>the 9th which does support the notion of a foreign partner, but it will be >>anything but smooth sailing. I'm not optimistic about her long term >>happiness with this guy. But it still might be the best thing to do for >>now. >> >>As for whether she will stay abroad, I think the answer is yes. Her 4L is >>Moon and that's conjunct Ketu, that's a separative influence for sure. >>Using chandra lagna, 4th from Moon is Aquarius and its lord Saturn is >>afflicted by Mars in the 12th. Maybe her luck will change in the US. >>Where is she going to there, perhaps it's worth casting a relocated chart? >> >>Chris >> >> At 03:01 PM 10/5/01 +0200, you wrote: >>>Hi, >>>I'm very confused about a chart of a young girl. She's in big trouble and >I >>>am not good enough as a vedic astrologer to give the right interpretation >>of >>>her chart. Let me fill you in on her past year: >>>After finishing high school, she went abroad for a year and had a great >>>time. This started in July 2000. In between she had to come home because >of >>>an illness. She went back, resumed her great time and fell in love. She >>>returned to her home in June 2001. She was admitted to a prestigious >school >>>(September) and is getting more and more (seriously) depressed. She will >be >>>visiting her boyfriend in the states soon. She is seventeen and people >>>around her are very worried sick about her. Transiting Saturn is aspecting >>>her Moon (conj. Ketu) in the 8th. Will she stop studying? Will she go/stay >>>abroad? >>> >>>Place: Amsterdam >>>January 28, 1984 >>>Time: 11:51 (am) Zone 1.00 >>>Lagna: 28:53 Aries >>> >>>I sincerely hope somebody can be of help. >>>Thank you in advance, >>> >>>Sanny >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>gjlist- >>> >>> >>> >>>Your use of is subject to >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>gjlist- >> >> >> >>Your use of is subject to >> >> >> >>gjlist- >> >> >> >>Your use of is subject to >> >> >> >> > > >gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > >gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2001 Report Share Posted October 10, 2001 Thank you for trying. I'll keep my fingers crossed. Bibi sanny -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Christopher Kevill [ckevill] Verzonden: woensdag 10 oktober 2001 18:14 Aan: gjlist Onderwerp: RE: [gjlist] can somebody help me, please? Sanny: As far as the girl's life during a Jupiter sub period, it sounds a bit difficult but not traumatic. So that doesn't really fit with what is going on now in her subsubperiod of Jupiter. It's not totally inconsistent, but it doesn't really provide a lot of reliable information. The other problem is that when the native is still a minor, many of the indications of dashas will be acted out by the parent. So it's possible that her father's illness at that time is mirrored by her present difficulties, although I gather he was quite successful in the material world which perhaps this girl isn't quite yet. Anyway, it does underline the importance of looking at other factors besides Jupiter's sign and house placement. Wish I could be more helpful. Chris At 01:19 PM 10/9/01 +0200, you wrote: >This girl lived with her father and his second wife. He did not take much >notice of her and she and the lady hated each other. End of February 1996 >the lady moved out (with a child - the girl's stepbrother). She was alone >with her father and had a great time. I think that must have been for a >couple of months. Somewhere in that year her father got ill and a new >girlfriend of his moved in with them. For the girl the good times were over. >About her father you could say in general: rich, great in business, two >devorces, his dauhter (the one we are talking about adores him and he >practically ignores her. >The February thing she remembers very well, but not the dates/months of the >rest of the year. Is this helpful? > >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: Christopher Kevill [ckevill] >Verzonden: dinsdag 9 oktober 2001 3:05 >Aan: gjlist >Onderwerp: RE: [gjlist] can somebody help me, please? > >Sanny: > >At 08:54 PM 10/6/01 +0200, you wrote: >>Hi Chris, >>Thanks for looking at the chart. So it might be 'bye bye University'.... >And >>Hello Los Angelos........ >>Boyfriend is in Los Angelos (she is 17, he is 19 still living with his >>folks). When I look at the chart she should be quite capable of earning her >>own money and rise to a good position. But you have to admit, the girl is >>quite young. Could you explain something else to me. She is running >>Venus-venus-Jupiter now. This Jupiter of hers doesn't look bad or weak at >>all. Still the trouble started almost at the beginning of the Jupiter >>period. I know you are not so much into the third level. And you know I'm >>not good enough yet, but it was striking. > >Yeah, I don't really bother with the 3rd level much but that Jupiter has to >be a bit strange because of its close Pluto sextile and its close >conjunction with Neptune. Not jyotish, but still important. I would also >point out that Jupiter is in Mula which is owned by Ketu and that's >conjunct a fallen Moon in the 8th house. Not a happy place for a star lord >of a planet. So there's two good reasons why Jupiter's period may not live >up to its neon billing in the 9th house. To check and see if Jupiter is >really the problem, though, I would ask her about her Jupiter bhuktie, from >summer of 96 to summer of 97. How was her life, and how was her 9L >father's life? > >Do you think something might >>happen to her mother too, or will it just be separation from her mother? I >>know, lots of questions, but I care about this child... > > >It's a classic problem of course, distinguishing between these two, both >represented by the 4th house and the Moon. I really can't say. I would >lean towards simple separation and moving if only because you've basically >said a trip is in the cards. OTOH, if you look at the D-12 IC 20Ta12(i.e. >4th house representing mother), this is very close to where Saturn is >currently transiting. But that might be coincidental... D-12 4L Mercury >7Le07 is being trined by Ketu. But maybe it only means she won't see her >mother for a long time. > >Keep me posted on the developments. Wishing her all the best. > >Chris > >> >>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>Van: Christopher Kevill [ckevill] >>Verzonden: zaterdag 6 oktober 2001 18:57 >>Aan: gjlist >>Onderwerp: Re: [gjlist] can somebody help me, please? >> >>Sanny: >> >>How are you doing these days? I took a look at this chart and it is under >>pressure at the moment, as you say. Using Houck's progressions, P3 Mc is >>squaring her Ketu right now and her minor progressed Asc is just past >>conjuncting her Rahu. This was exact two weeks ago. So it's possible that >>the worst of her mental stress is behind her. However, things are never >>completely clear in astrology. Her chart is unstable for a while. Saturn >>is aspecting her Moon-Ketu conj now and Pluto will be moving away from Ketu >>towards the Moon. Uranus is still squaring her Ascendant. This is >>obviously not an easy time for her. >> >>She's running Ven-Ven now and on the surface this ought to help her. It's >>in the 9th hemmed in by benefics Jupiter and Mercury, albeit aspected by >>Saturn. But Venus is in Ketu star and Ketu is in the 8th with that Moon. >>And look at the state of both of Venus' ruled signs, Libra and Taurus: they >>are filled with malefics, Rahu is Taurus, and Mars and Saturn in Libra. >>This creates problems for Venus during its dasha. Natally, this can be >>traced to her mental problems indicated by deb Moon in the 8th with Ketu >>and Uranus plus the fact that the 7th house is occupied by Mars and Saturn >>means big trouble from love. 7L Venus is closely conjunct Sag Jupiter in >>the 9th which does support the notion of a foreign partner, but it will be >>anything but smooth sailing. I'm not optimistic about her long term >>happiness with this guy. But it still might be the best thing to do for >>now. >> >>As for whether she will stay abroad, I think the answer is yes. Her 4L is >>Moon and that's conjunct Ketu, that's a separative influence for sure. >>Using chandra lagna, 4th from Moon is Aquarius and its lord Saturn is >>afflicted by Mars in the 12th. Maybe her luck will change in the US. >>Where is she going to there, perhaps it's worth casting a relocated chart? >> >>Chris >> >> At 03:01 PM 10/5/01 +0200, you wrote: >>>Hi, >>>I'm very confused about a chart of a young girl. She's in big trouble and >I >>>am not good enough as a vedic astrologer to give the right interpretation >>of >>>her chart. Let me fill you in on her past year: >>>After finishing high school, she went abroad for a year and had a great >>>time. This started in July 2000. In between she had to come home because >of >>>an illness. She went back, resumed her great time and fell in love. She >>>returned to her home in June 2001. She was admitted to a prestigious >school >>>(September) and is getting more and more (seriously) depressed. She will >be >>>visiting her boyfriend in the states soon. She is seventeen and people >>>around her are very worried sick about her. Transiting Saturn is aspecting >>>her Moon (conj. Ketu) in the 8th. Will she stop studying? Will she go/stay >>>abroad? >>> >>>Place: Amsterdam >>>January 28, 1984 >>>Time: 11:51 (am) Zone 1.00 >>>Lagna: 28:53 Aries >>> >>>I sincerely hope somebody can be of help. >>>Thank you in advance, >>> >>>Sanny >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>gjlist- >>> >>> >>> >>>Your use of is subject to >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>gjlist- >> >> >> >>Your use of is subject to >> >> >> >>gjlist- >> >> >> >>Your use of is subject to >> >> >> >> > > >gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > >gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > gjlist- Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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