Guest guest Posted September 30, 2001 Report Share Posted September 30, 2001 Namaste Jyotishi friends, The lunar New Year chart is an important technique for determining the events and possible karmas associated with any particular country, for any particular year. This is done by finding the exact time and date of the new Moon in Pisces for a particular year, using the coordinates for the capitol city of that country. This comes under the category of "Mundane" astrology, or that which determines the fate of a particular country or place for the year in question. Another technique is to take the time during which the solar ingress into sidereal Aries occurs, using the same coordinates for the country concerned, although this technique will not be discussed here. The effects of planets, especially with regard to specific naksatras in the 2001 Pisces New year chart for the USA, are so powerful and poignant, that they are worth taking note of in the analysis that follows: In light of recent horrific terrorist attacks on the USA, take the lunar New year chart for the USA, 3/24/2001; 20:21:39 EST; Washington, DC. Following is the data that should result: Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak Lagna 5 Li 01' 36.73" Chitra 4 Li Sc - Sun 10 Pi 35' 45.64" U.Bhaa. 3 Pi Li GK Moon 10 Pi 35' 45.64" U.Bhaa. 3 Pi Li PK Mars 24 Sc 08' 39.86" Jyeshtha 3 Sc Aq AK Mercury 16 Aq 36' 46.17" Satabhisham 3 Aq Aq BK Jupiter 12 Ta 34' 35.13" Rohini 1 Ta Ar PiK Venus ® 18 Pi 47' 49.90" Revathi 1 Pi Sg AmK Saturn 3 Ta 13' 56.97" Krittika 2 Ta Cp DK Rahu 17 Ge 25' 03.16" Aardra 4 Ge Pi MK Ketu 17 Sg 25' 03.16" Poo.Shaa. 2 Sg Vi - Maandi 12 Sc 56' 00.44" Anuradha 3 Sc Li - Gulika 4 Sc 02' 52.36" Anuradha 1 Sc Le - Note in this chart, that the Libra lagna lord is exalted Venus, Rx in the 6th house, in a dangerous parivartana with 6th lord Jupiter, who is in the 8th. Jupiter is aspected by a powerful maraka lord Mars from the sign of Scorpio, and is also joined with Saturn. Saturn's benefic status as yogakaraka is greatly diminished by the fact that he is the lord of the 64th Navamsa from the ascendant (Aquarius), as well as from the Moon. Further, Saturn is positioned in the 22nd Drekkana, a situation which adds particular vitriol to an otherwise naturally malefic planet. [The 64th Navamsa falls exactly 8 signs away from either the rising Navamsa, or the Navamsa occupied by the Moon. These are found easily, by finding the 4th house from the Navamsa lagna (Aquarius in the case of the current chart); and the 4th house from the Moon in the Navamsa chart, which is Cp in this case. The signs, as well as planets ruling these, are highly malefic, and bring death during their dasas and transits. The 22nd Drekkana similarly, is the 8th house of the Drekkana chart. The sign of the 22nd Drekkana, as well as its lord, are similarly dangerous as marakas and can bring death during related dasas and transits]. If the lagna lord, is in exchange with the lord of the 6th, and occupies the 6th, and further comes under aspects from dangerous planets as mentioned above, then the year in question can bring greatly challenging events to effect the longevity and well-being of the population of that country. Further, the Arudha lagna is Leo, from which the New Moon (Sun and Moon) fall in the 8th, with lagna lord Venus also falling in the 8th therefrom. The dangerous Mrtyu pada, which is the Arudha of the 8th, is Capricorn in this chart, and Cp aspects the AL also by rasi aspect. Saturn, already malefic by rulership of the 64th Navamsa from Navamsa lagna and Moon, is also ruler of A8, joining 6th lord Jupiter, who disposits Venus. These are ominous indicators, showing that dangerous and life-threatening events befall the country during the year 2001. SPECIAL NAKSATRAS, AND PLANETARY ASPECTS TO NAKSATRAS - SARVATOBHADRA CHAKRA According to the scheme of Sarvatobhadra Chakra, which is an ingenious approach to the delineation of transit effects of planets in Vedic Astrology, there are 11 special classification of naksatras. These are as follows: 1. The constellation occupied by the natal Moon (or Moon of the transit or event chart) is called Janma naksatra. This naksatra indicates general well being. 2. The 10th constellation from the janma, is called Karma naksatra. This indicates profession and the place of work. 3. The 18th constellation from the Janma is called Samudayika, which means "related to a crowd" and shows group activities or consciousness (as in the chart of the United States or other country) 4. The 16th constellation from janma, is called Sanghatika, which means "belonging to a group. It indicates group and social activities. 5. The 4th constellation from janma, is called Jati, which means "community". This indicates the class or nature of one's community of circle of associates. 6. The 7th constellation from janma, is called Naidhana, which indicates death and suffering. 7. The 12th constellation from janma, is called Desa, which means "country", indicates the country either of one's birth, or of residence (if different). 8. The 13th constellation from janma, is called Abhisheka, which means "coronation", and refers to power and authority. It can also indicate events bringing the leader of the country to power or improved reputation. 9. The 19th constellation from janma is called Adhana, which refers to conception, and indicates well being of the family (or community and citizenry, in case of the chart of a country). 10. The 22nd constellation from janma, is called Vainasika, and indicates destruction, either to an individual, or to his community, family, or society. 11. The 25th constellation from janma, is called Manasa, and indicates the mind. Thus, the mental state of an individual, or of the collective society, can be shown by this naksatra. ASPECTS OF PLANETS ONTO NAKSATRAS. In the scheme of Sarvatobhadra Chakra, planets also aspect specific naksatras. These are as follows: The Sun and Moon aspect the 14th and 15th stars from them. Mars aspects the 1st, 3rd, 7th, 8th, and 15th stars from him. Mercury and Venus aspect the 1st and 15th stars from them. Jupiter aspects the 10th, 15th-, and 19th stars from him. Saturn aspects the 3rd, 5th, 15th, and 19th stars from him. Now, natural benefics will give favorable effects to the naksatras that they aspect, whereas natural malefics will bring very unfavorable results. In transit or event charts, the naksatras aspected by malefics are going to bring challenges and difficulties onto the houses/signs occupied by such naksatras. The rulers of such naksatras which are aspected, will also be effected negatively, in addition to the affairs associated with the houses ruled by such naksatras. So, taking all the above information into account, note the following: lagna lord Venus, rules the Vainasika Naksatra (destruction), which is Purvashadha. Mars aspects the third naksatra from himself, which also happens to be Purvashadha, and which falls in the sign Sagittarius. Jupiter, ruling Sg, thus gets the aspect of Mars also. The Naidhana naksatra (death) is ruled by Mars, and is Mrigashira. So the strong maraka lord Mars, from his own sign of Scorpio, and ruling the Naidhana naksatra, represents sure and certain death, and especially so when he aspects Purvashadha, which is the Vainasika naksatra, and which is ruled by lagna lord Venus. Note also the following interesting observations: Manasa naksatra (collective the mind), is Danishta; the Sanghatika naksatra (group, or population), is Chitra; and the Naidhana naksatra (death), *all come under the rulership of Mars in this chart*. Also note, that on June 21, 2001, the Total solar eclipse fell at 6:24 Gemini, which is the Naidhana naksatra of Mrigashira. Thus, the collective mind of the population (group), is focused on death during the year at hand, and now we can see this particularly to be the case following the September 11, attacks on innocent life at the hands of terrorists. How all this plays out, and when events might transpire, can be seen from the Vimsottari dasa compressed to one year, which is the Paramayus, or longevity of the New year chart. COMPRESSED VIMSOTTARI DASA FOR ONE YEAR The normal Paramayus for a lifetime, according to the scheme of Vimsottari dasa, is 120 years. Now, the Paramayus of a Lunar new year chart, is one year. So, proportioning the normal lengths of Vimsottari dasa to one year, we get the following as the dasas for the 2001 chart: Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon) for 2001 lunar new year chart: Maha Dasas: Sat: 2001-03-24 (20:21:38) - 2001-05-24 (14:36:40) Mer: 2001-05-24 (14:36:40) - 2001-07-17 (23:21:41) Ket: 2001-07-17 (23:21:41) - 2001-08-09 (08:36:41) Ven: 2001-08-09 (08:36:41) - 2001-10-12 (07:36:43) Sun: 2001-10-12 (07:36:43) - 2001-10-31 (12:06:43) Moo: 2001-10-31 (12:06:43) - 2001-12-02 (11:36:44) Mar: 2001-12-02 (11:36:44) - 2001-12-24 (20:51:44) Rah: 2001-12-24 (20:51:44) - 2002-02-20 (10:21:46) Jup: 2002-02-20 (10:21:46) - 2002-04-12 (14:21:47) Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): Ven MD: 2001-08-09 (08:36:41) - 2001-10-12 (07:36:43) Antardasas in this MD: Ven: 2001-08-09 (08:36:41) - 2001-08-20 (00:26:41) Sun: 2001-08-20 (00:26:41) - 2001-08-23 (05:11:42) Moo: 2001-08-23 (05:11:42) - 2001-08-28 (13:06:42) Mar: 2001-08-28 (13:06:42) - 2001-09-01 (06:39:12) Rah: 2001-09-01 (06:39:12) - 2001-09-10 (20:54:12) Jup: 2001-09-10 (20:54:12) - 2001-09-19 (09:34:12) Sat: 2001-09-19 (09:34:12) - 2001-09-29 (12:36:42) Mer: 2001-09-29 (12:36:42) - 2001-10-08 (14:04:13) Ket: 2001-10-08 (14:04:13) - 2001-10-12 (07:36:43) Thus, the September 11th attacks too place during the dasa of Venus/Jupiter. Note, as mentioned before the inauspicious parivartana between lagna lord and 6th lord Jupiter, who is in the 8th with a very malefic Saturn as mentioned before. Note the aspect of Mars to Jupiter, as well as to Purvashadha, who is the Vainasika naksatra (Destruction), ruled by lagna lord Venus. Apamrtyu Saham, which is a specific point relegated to untimely death, is at 24 Aries, which is the star Bharani, and which is also ruled by Venus. So there is too much death and destruction associating with Venus. Venus in turn, aspects the naksatras of Dhanishta and Chitra, ruled by Mars, and thus throughout the dasa of Venus, a stealthy and diplomatic response to the attacks has been under way. As long as the Venus dasa is in place, overt military reprisals will not take place. Instead, covert operations, as well as diplomatic efforts to draw the support of other countries, will go on. The Sun, ruling the AL, and falling in the 8th therefrom, aspects the constellation Hasta and Uttaraphalguni, which fall in the sign Virgo/12th house, and thus continued leveraging of foreign leaders to support the offensive against terrorism, will take place. Sun, however, is debilitated in the 12th in the Navamsa, and thus not too much in the way of successful operations is likely to take place during this dasa. Same is true for the dasa of the Moon which follows. Mars dasa, taking place in the month of December, is likely to start the fireworks, in the form of all-out military assaults, and we should be seeing these on the news on a nightly basis. Since Mars also aspects Purvashadha, ruled by lagna lord Venus, there could be more terrorist attacks on the citizenry of the US during the December period of the Mars dasa. The lunar new year chart for 2002 shows harsh indicators of all out war, and I will discuss this chart next, if anybody would like me to do so. For more information on special aspects of planets to naksatras, as well as special functions of naksatras as used in this article, get the following excellent book by Narasimha Rao: "Vedic Astrology: An Integrated Approach". These concepts appeared originally, in "Crux of Vedic Astrology: Timing of Events", by Sri Sanjay Rath. Best wishes, Robert ===================================== Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer 760 NW Broken Arrow Rd. Bend, OR. 97701-9037 Phone: 541-318-0248 visit <http://www.robertkoch.com> or e-mail rk. rk and rkoch rkoch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2001 Report Share Posted September 30, 2001 Hi Robert. Thanks for your work on that lunar new years chart. Yes, please post 2002 findings too. Wow what a post! Most of the planets seem to be in MB points too, Lg, Ve, Ma exact & Mo & Sa very close! Venus LL is also Brahma, Maheswara & Rudra if my calcs are right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2001 Report Share Posted October 1, 2001 Dear Tara, Namaste - At 06:59 PM 9/30/01 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Robert. >Thanks for your work on that lunar new years chart. Yes, please post 2002 >findings too. Wow what a post! Most of the planets seem to be in MB points >too, Lg, Ve, Ma exact & Mo & Sa very close! Venus LL is also Brahma, >Maheswara & Rudra if my calcs are right. Thanks for pointing out the Mrtyu-bhaga points of planets and the ascendant in the 2001 new chart. I hadn't noticed it, but you're right: lagna lord Venus (who is also the lord of the Vainasika naksatra), is in MB, with the lagna in MB as well. Saturn, as lord of the 64th Navamsa, and as lord of the Mrtyu pada (Arudha of the 8th), similarly is very dangerous when in MB, which he is. This is very telling stuff, especially with Sun/Moon/Venus in 8th from Arudha lagna. Regarding Brahma, Rudra, and Maheswara: BRAHMA: It should be Jupiter. If none out of the lords of 6, 8, or 12 from lagna is in the visible sky (houses 7 to 12) in an odd sign, then you have to take the stronger lord of 6, 8, or 12 from the 7th house, provided such lord is in an odd sign, and in the visible sky from the 7th house (from houses 1 to 6). The lord of the 8th from the 7th is Ketu, and his being exalted in an odd sign (Sg) makes him qualify as Brahma. But Jaimini and Parasara say that if Ketu becomes Brahma, he must defer to Jupiter (because a non-entity cannot become the Creator of all entities and universes). Similarly, if in some chart Rahu becomes Brahma, then he must defer to Mercury. So Jupiter is Brahma in this chart. RUDRA: He is the stronger of the 2nd and 8th from lagna. Lord of 8th from lagna is Venus, is exalted, and is with two other planets. Thus, Venus becomes Rudra. Ketu, lord of the 2nd, is exalted, but in association of no planets. Thus Venus is Rudra. MAHESWARA: He is the lord of the 8th from the Atmakaraka. There are, however, some qualifiers: If Rahu or Ketu is in the 1st/8th from the AK, then the counting goes in reverse, i.e. the lord of the 6th from AK becomes Maheswara. There are some other stipulations also. As in Brahma, if Ketu becomes Maheswara (as the lord of the 8th from AK, then he defers to Jupiter; similarly, Rahu defers to Mercury). Anyway, in this chart, Rahu is in the 8th from AK Mars, and thus counting to the 6th from Mars instead, you come to Aries. Thus Mars is also Maheswara in this chart. Maheswara is very dangerous in natal horoscopes, particularly with regard to longevity. If he afflicts sensitive planets related to the ascendant, the Arudha lagna, or the 3rd or 8th house from either during operative dasas, then he can bring about death. Note as follows the Narayana dasas, compressed for the 2001 year chart: Narayana Dasa of 2001 lunar new year chart: Maha Dasas: Ar: 2001-03-24 (20:21:38) - 2001-04-16 (06:16:21) Ta: 2001-04-16 (06:16:21) - 2001-05-22 (00:37:23) Ge: 2001-05-22 (00:37:23) - 2001-06-17 (08:32:05) Cn: 2001-06-17 (08:32:05) - 2001-06-30 (13:38:36) Le: 2001-06-30 (13:38:36) - 2001-07-17 (02:21:24) Vi: 2001-07-17 (02:21:24) - 2001-08-09 (04:11:29) Li: 2001-08-09 (04:11:29) - 2001-08-28 (19:45:58) Sc: 2001-08-28 (19:45:58) - 2001-09-04 (08:10:01) Sg: 2001-09-04 (08:10:01) - 2001-09-20 (12:46:31) Cp: 2001-09-20 (12:46:31) - 2001-10-16 (03:29:48) Aq: 2001-10-16 (03:29:48) - 2001-11-13 (12:44:01) Pi: 2001-11-13 (12:44:01) - 2001-12-14 (15:49:08) Ar: 2001-12-14 (15:49:08) - 2001-12-30 (03:14:09) Ta: 2001-12-30 (03:14:09) - 2002-01-02 (05:29:09) Ge: 2002-01-02 (05:29:09) - 2002-01-14 (14:23:42) Cn: 2002-01-14 (14:23:42) - 2002-02-08 (10:04:05) Le: 2002-02-08 (10:04:05) - 2002-03-02 (07:21:00) Vi: 2002-03-02 (07:21:00) - 2002-03-18 (01:54:14) Li: 2002-03-18 (01:54:14) - 2002-04-06 (04:43:33) Sc: 2002-04-06 (04:43:33) - 2002-05-08 (12:20:32) Sg: 2002-05-08 (12:20:32) - 2002-05-31 (10:26:19) Cp: 2002-05-31 (10:26:19) - 2002-06-13 (14:35:21) Aq: 2002-06-13 (14:35:21) - 2002-06-23 (12:19:40) Pi: 2002-06-23 (12:19:40) - 2002-06-30 (03:00:47) Narayana Dasa sub-periods - 2001 chart: Sg MD: 2001-09-04 (08:10:01) - 2001-09-20 (12:46:31) Antardasas in this MD: Ta: 2001-09-04 (08:10:01) - 2001-09-05 (16:41:23) Ge: 2001-09-05 (16:41:23) - 2001-09-07 (01:11:23) Cn: 2001-09-07 (01:11:23) - 2001-09-08 (09:39:50) Le: 2001-09-08 (09:39:50) - 2001-09-09 (18:06:43) Vi: 2001-09-09 (18:06:43) - 2001-09-11 (02:32:04) Li: 2001-09-11 (02:32:04) - 2001-09-12 (10:55:44) Sc: 2001-09-12 (10:55:44) - 2001-09-13 (19:17:53) Sg: 2001-09-13 (19:17:53) - 2001-09-15 (03:38:27) Cp: 2001-09-15 (03:38:27) - 2001-09-16 (11:57:32) Aq: 2001-09-16 (11:57:32) - 2001-09-17 (20:15:16) Pi: 2001-09-17 (20:15:16) - 2001-09-19 (04:31:34) Ar: 2001-09-19 (04:31:34) - 2001-09-20 (12:46:31) From this, you can see that the Narayana dasa of Sagittarius/Libra were in place when the attacks occurred. Purvashadha, the Vainasika naksatra, is in Sg, and this naksatra is also aspected by Mars, as per my last post. So Mars as Maheswara did is bidding in no uncertain terms on 9/11. Now look at the sub-period, Libra, which is the ascendant itself. Its lord is Venus, Mrtyu-bhaga, while also in 8th from AL, and in a dangerous Parivartana with Jupiter in the 8th, who is also aspected by Mars. So you see, Mars lives up to his Maheswara role in this chart. Note, that Venus is Rudra. Ruling the ascendant of the chart, Venus shows the means by which the US fights back, initially anyway. Diplomacy, tact, stealth, covert operations, etc. It will likely be a different approach in December, however, when the Vimsottari dasa of Mars starts, i.e. 12/02. Best wishes, Robert ===================================== Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer 760 NW Broken Arrow Rd. 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Guest guest Posted October 1, 2001 Report Share Posted October 1, 2001 Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha! ------------- Dear Robert, Namaste. I don't understand how can Maheswara give problems and death? I would rather consider his presence a blessing! Please correct my understanding. Best wishes, Visti. Listen to your Mail messages from any phone. http://phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2001 Report Share Posted October 1, 2001 Dear Tara, Namaste - At 06:59 PM 9/30/01 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Robert. >Thanks for your work on that lunar new years chart. Yes, please post 2002 >findings too. Wow what a post! Most of the planets seem to be in MB points >too, Lg, Ve, Ma exact & Mo & Sa very close! Venus LL is also Brahma, >Maheswara & Rudra if my calcs are right. Thanks for pointing out the Mrtyu-bhaga points of planets and the ascendant in the 2001 new chart. I hadn't noticed it, but you're right: lagna lord Venus (who is also the lord of the Vainasika naksatra), is in MB, with the lagna in MB as well. Saturn, as lord of the 64th Navamsa, and as lord of the Mrtyu pada (Arudha of the 8th), similarly is very dangerous when in MB, which he is. This is very telling stuff, especially with Sun/Moon/Venus in 8th from Arudha lagna. Regarding Brahma, Rudra, and Maheswara: BRAHMA: It should be Jupiter. If none out of the lords of 6, 8, or 12 from lagna is in the visible sky (houses 7 to 12) in an odd sign, then you have to take the stronger lord of 6, 8, or 12 from the 7th house, provided such lord is in an odd sign, and in the visible sky from the 7th house (from houses 1 to 6). The lord of the 8th from the 7th is Ketu, and his being exalted in an odd sign (Sg) makes him qualify as Brahma. But Jaimini and Parasara say that if Ketu becomes Brahma, he must defer to Jupiter (because a non-entity cannot become the Creator of all entities and universes). Similarly, if in some chart Rahu becomes Brahma, then he must defer to Mercury. So Jupiter is Brahma in this chart. RUDRA: He is the stronger of the 2nd and 8th from lagna. Lord of 8th from lagna is Venus, is exalted, and is with two other planets. Thus, Venus becomes Rudra. Ketu, lord of the 2nd, is exalted, but in association of no planets. Thus Venus is Rudra. MAHESWARA: He is the lord of the 8th from the Atmakaraka. There are, however, some qualifiers: If Rahu or Ketu is in the 1st/8th from the AK, then the counting goes in reverse, i.e. the lord of the 6th from AK becomes Maheswara. There are some other stipulations also. As in Brahma, if Ketu becomes Maheswara (as the lord of the 8th from AK, then he defers to Jupiter; similarly, Rahu defers to Mercury). Anyway, in this chart, Rahu is in the 8th from AK Mars, and thus counting to the 6th from Mars instead, you come to Aries. Thus Mars is also Maheswara in this chart. Maheswara is very dangerous in natal horoscopes, particularly with regard to longevity. If he afflicts sensitive planets related to the ascendant, the Arudha lagna, or the 3rd or 8th house from either during operative dasas, then he can bring about death. Note as follows the Narayana dasas, compressed for the 2001 year chart: Narayana Dasa of 2001 lunar new year chart: Maha Dasas: Ar: 2001-03-24 (20:21:38) - 2001-04-16 (06:16:21) Ta: 2001-04-16 (06:16:21) - 2001-05-22 (00:37:23) Ge: 2001-05-22 (00:37:23) - 2001-06-17 (08:32:05) Cn: 2001-06-17 (08:32:05) - 2001-06-30 (13:38:36) Le: 2001-06-30 (13:38:36) - 2001-07-17 (02:21:24) Vi: 2001-07-17 (02:21:24) - 2001-08-09 (04:11:29) Li: 2001-08-09 (04:11:29) - 2001-08-28 (19:45:58) Sc: 2001-08-28 (19:45:58) - 2001-09-04 (08:10:01) Sg: 2001-09-04 (08:10:01) - 2001-09-20 (12:46:31) Cp: 2001-09-20 (12:46:31) - 2001-10-16 (03:29:48) Aq: 2001-10-16 (03:29:48) - 2001-11-13 (12:44:01) Pi: 2001-11-13 (12:44:01) - 2001-12-14 (15:49:08) Ar: 2001-12-14 (15:49:08) - 2001-12-30 (03:14:09) Ta: 2001-12-30 (03:14:09) - 2002-01-02 (05:29:09) Ge: 2002-01-02 (05:29:09) - 2002-01-14 (14:23:42) Cn: 2002-01-14 (14:23:42) - 2002-02-08 (10:04:05) Le: 2002-02-08 (10:04:05) - 2002-03-02 (07:21:00) Vi: 2002-03-02 (07:21:00) - 2002-03-18 (01:54:14) Li: 2002-03-18 (01:54:14) - 2002-04-06 (04:43:33) Sc: 2002-04-06 (04:43:33) - 2002-05-08 (12:20:32) Sg: 2002-05-08 (12:20:32) - 2002-05-31 (10:26:19) Cp: 2002-05-31 (10:26:19) - 2002-06-13 (14:35:21) Aq: 2002-06-13 (14:35:21) - 2002-06-23 (12:19:40) Pi: 2002-06-23 (12:19:40) - 2002-06-30 (03:00:47) Narayana Dasa sub-periods - 2001 chart: Sg MD: 2001-09-04 (08:10:01) - 2001-09-20 (12:46:31) Antardasas in this MD: Ta: 2001-09-04 (08:10:01) - 2001-09-05 (16:41:23) Ge: 2001-09-05 (16:41:23) - 2001-09-07 (01:11:23) Cn: 2001-09-07 (01:11:23) - 2001-09-08 (09:39:50) Le: 2001-09-08 (09:39:50) - 2001-09-09 (18:06:43) Vi: 2001-09-09 (18:06:43) - 2001-09-11 (02:32:04) Li: 2001-09-11 (02:32:04) - 2001-09-12 (10:55:44) Sc: 2001-09-12 (10:55:44) - 2001-09-13 (19:17:53) Sg: 2001-09-13 (19:17:53) - 2001-09-15 (03:38:27) Cp: 2001-09-15 (03:38:27) - 2001-09-16 (11:57:32) Aq: 2001-09-16 (11:57:32) - 2001-09-17 (20:15:16) Pi: 2001-09-17 (20:15:16) - 2001-09-19 (04:31:34) Ar: 2001-09-19 (04:31:34) - 2001-09-20 (12:46:31) From this, you can see that the Narayana dasa of Sagittarius/Libra were in place when the attacks occurred. Purvashadha, the Vainasika naksatra, is in Sg, and this naksatra is also aspected by Mars, as per my last post. So Mars as Maheswara did is bidding in no uncertain terms on 9/11. Now look at the sub-period, Libra, which is the ascendant itself. Its lord is Venus, Mrtyu-bhaga, while also in 8th from AL, and in a dangerous Parivartana with Jupiter in the 8th, who is also aspected by Mars. So you see, Mars lives up to his Maheswara role in this chart. Note, that Venus is Rudra. Ruling the ascendant of the chart, Venus shows the means by which the US fights back, initially anyway. Diplomacy, tact, stealth, covert operations, etc. It will likely be a different approach in December, however, when the Vimsottari dasa of Mars starts, i.e. 12/02. Best wishes, Robert ===================================== Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer 760 NW Broken Arrow Rd. Bend, OR. 97701-9037 Phone: 541-318-0248 visit <http://www.robertkoch.com> or e-mail rk. rk and rkoch rkoch gjlist- Your use of is subject to Best wishes, Robert ===================================== Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer 760 NW Broken Arrow Rd. Bend, OR. 97701-9037 Phone: 541-318-0248 visit <http://www.robertkoch.com> or e-mail rk. rk and rkoch rkoch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2001 Report Share Posted October 1, 2001 Namaste Visti, At 01:24 PM 10/1/01 -0700, you wrote: >Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha! >------------- > >Dear Robert, Namaste. >I don't understand how can Maheswara give problems and >death? I would rather consider his presence a >blessing! > >Please correct my understanding. >Best wishes, Visti. Maheswara is indeed Lord Shiva, or Mahadeva, Who blesses all living entities when prayed to or worshipped. He, however, is the lord of the Rudras, and thus his presence in, or aspecting the dasa rasi (Shoola, or other Ayur dasa) when the term of longevity is up, brings about death. Death is of course a blessing, when the transmigration involves the direct blessings of God or his associates (i.e. attainment of Moksha), and these too can be seen in the horoscope vis a vis Karakamsa lagna. Each house has a Rudra (which is the stronger of the lord of 2nd or 8th from it), except for the house containing Jupiter. Thus there are 11 Rudras, and these are also mentioned in the Bhagavad gita as part of the all-devouring feature of God. The lord of the 8th from the Atmakaraka is a special Rudra, and since he has a malefic sway over the house of longevity counted therefrom, he thus is very dangerous to life and longevity. Due to Maheswara, or Lord Mahadeva's benevolence, however, we can propitiate him when dangers due to death become eminent. This can be done by the recitation of the Maha-Mrtyunjaya mantra, as mentioned previously on this list. Anyway, turn to page 154 to 159 in Maharshi Jaimini Upadesa Sutras, commentary and translation by Sanjay Rath. There you will find many details regarding Maheswara, Rudra, and Brahma, and their applicability in Ayur Jyotish. Best wishes, Robert ===================================== Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer 760 NW Broken Arrow Rd. Bend, OR. 97701-9037 Phone: 541-318-0248 visit <http://www.robertkoch.com> or e-mail rk. rk and rkoch rkoch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2001 Report Share Posted October 2, 2001 Vyan Vysadevaya Namaha! ----------- Hi Robert, Good mail, i can understand the context. But just a correction; there are 11 Rudras and 1 Maheswara(12th Rudra).. this is what i've been taught anyway. Best wishes, Visti. --- "Robert A. Koch" <rkoch wrote: > Namaste Visti, > > At 01:24 PM 10/1/01 -0700, you wrote: > >Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha! > >------------- > > > >Dear Robert, Namaste. > >I don't understand how can Maheswara give problems > and > >death? I would rather consider his presence a > >blessing! > > > >Please correct my understanding. > >Best wishes, Visti. > > Maheswara is indeed Lord Shiva, or Mahadeva, Who > blesses all living > entities when prayed to or worshipped. He, however, > is the lord of the > Rudras, and thus his presence in, or aspecting the > dasa rasi (Shoola, or > other Ayur dasa) when the term of longevity is up, > brings about > death. Death is of course a blessing, when the > transmigration involves the > direct blessings of God or his associates (i.e. > attainment of Moksha), and > these too can be seen in the horoscope vis a vis > Karakamsa lagna. > > Each house has a Rudra (which is the stronger of the > lord of 2nd or 8th > from it), except for the house containing Jupiter. > Thus there are 11 > Rudras, and these are also mentioned in the Bhagavad > gita as part of the > all-devouring feature of God. The lord of the 8th > from the Atmakaraka is > a special Rudra, and since he has a malefic sway > over the house of > longevity counted therefrom, he thus is very > dangerous to life and longevity. > > Due to Maheswara, or Lord Mahadeva's benevolence, > however, we can > propitiate him when dangers due to death become > eminent. This can be done > by the recitation of the Maha-Mrtyunjaya mantra, as > mentioned previously on > this list. Anyway, turn to page 154 to 159 in > Maharshi Jaimini Upadesa > Sutras, commentary and translation by Sanjay Rath. > There you will find > many details regarding Maheswara, Rudra, and Brahma, > and their > applicability in Ayur Jyotish. > > Best wishes, > Robert > > ===================================== > Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer > 760 NW Broken Arrow Rd. > Bend, OR. 97701-9037 > Phone: 541-318-0248 > visit <http://www.robertkoch.com> or e-mail > rk. rk and > rkoch rkoch > > > > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Listen to your Mail messages from any phone. http://phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2001 Report Share Posted October 3, 2001 Robert: Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this important subject. I found much of it difficult to absorb though because many of the concepts you use are unfamiliar to me. I guess I'll have to bone up on Sanjay's menagerie! :-) >From a more "mainstream" perspective, I was struck by the relative absence of any close aspects between key planets. Given the monumentality of the attacks, I would have thought that clearer sharper patterns would have existed in the horoscope. Certainly, Saturn's malefic power is amplified by its status as 64th navamsha owner, as you point out. But something as historically significant as Sept 11th was should have clear signs using simpler more standard tools. My limited knowledge of mundane astrology also includes this New Moon method. However, I have also found that one has to use the parallax Moon chart as well. For those members who might not be familiar with the parallax Moon, it is the actual position of the Moon from the point of observation on the surface of the Earth, in this case, Washington DC. Most astrologers however use the geocentric position of the Moon, which is ascertained from the centre of the Earth. The parallax New Moon occurred at 9:41:25 pm in Washington, over an hour after the geocentric chart. this parallax chart is interesting not because there's any difference in the house position of any planets -- they don't change at all, it's still Libra rising -- but because one key planet is now angular. Uranus 29Cp25, the planet of sudden shock and surprises, is exactly conjunct the IC/4th house cusp 29Cp51. I can't imagine a better astrological pattern for a shock on the home front. Moreover, the navamsha position of Saturn 29Cp58, is also exactly conjunct this IC, suggesting difficulties at home. Other telling contacts could be noted using other relevant varga charts, such as the D-8 and D-11. If members are so inclined, I could post my ideas on those varga charts as well. I don't think that the parallax Moon chart is better than the usual geocenric chart. I think both should be conferred when making mundane predictions. While I didn't bother to make any predictions using this chart, I know if I had been a bit more on the ball this past spring, I would have offered some prediction of the US being subject to some domestic shock. I suppose there's no excuse now for missing out on the 2002 new moon chart and its indications. best, Chris also struck At 05:06 PM 9/30/01 -0700, you wrote: >Namaste Jyotishi friends, > >The lunar New Year chart is an important technique for determining the >events and possible karmas associated with any particular country, for any >particular year. This is done by finding the exact time and date of the >new Moon in Pisces for a particular year, using the coordinates for the >capitol city of that country. This comes under the category of "Mundane" >astrology, or that which determines the fate of a particular country or >place for the year in question. Another technique is to take the time >during which the solar ingress into sidereal Aries occurs, using the same >coordinates for the country concerned, although this technique will not be >discussed here. The effects of planets, especially with regard to specific >naksatras in the 2001 Pisces New year chart for the USA, are so powerful >and poignant, that they are worth taking note of in the analysis that >follows: > >In light of recent horrific terrorist attacks on the USA, take the lunar >New year chart for the USA, 3/24/2001; 20:21:39 EST; Washington, >DC. Following is the data that should result: > >Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa ChKarak >Lagna 5 Li 01' 36.73" Chitra 4 Li Sc - >Sun 10 Pi 35' 45.64" U.Bhaa. 3 Pi Li GK >Moon 10 Pi 35' 45.64" U.Bhaa. 3 Pi Li PK >Mars 24 Sc 08' 39.86" Jyeshtha 3 Sc Aq AK >Mercury 16 Aq 36' 46.17" Satabhisham 3 Aq Aq BK >Jupiter 12 Ta 34' 35.13" Rohini 1 Ta Ar PiK >Venus ® 18 Pi 47' 49.90" Revathi 1 Pi Sg AmK >Saturn 3 Ta 13' 56.97" Krittika 2 Ta Cp DK >Rahu 17 Ge 25' 03.16" Aardra 4 Ge Pi MK >Ketu 17 Sg 25' 03.16" Poo.Shaa. 2 Sg Vi - >Maandi 12 Sc 56' 00.44" Anuradha 3 Sc Li - >Gulika 4 Sc 02' 52.36" Anuradha 1 Sc Le - > >Note in this chart, that the Libra lagna lord is exalted Venus, Rx in the >6th house, in a dangerous parivartana with 6th lord Jupiter, who is in the >8th. Jupiter is aspected by a powerful maraka lord Mars from the sign of >Scorpio, and is also joined with Saturn. Saturn's benefic status as >yogakaraka is greatly diminished by the fact that he is the lord of the >64th Navamsa from the ascendant (Aquarius), as well as from the >Moon. Further, Saturn is positioned in the 22nd Drekkana, a situation >which adds particular vitriol to an otherwise naturally malefic planet. > > [The 64th Navamsa falls exactly 8 signs away from either the rising >Navamsa, or the Navamsa occupied by the Moon. These are found easily, by >finding the 4th house from the Navamsa lagna (Aquarius in the case of the >current chart); and the 4th house from the Moon in the Navamsa chart, which >is Cp in this case. The signs, as well as planets ruling these, are highly >malefic, and bring death during their dasas and transits. The 22nd >Drekkana similarly, is the 8th house of the Drekkana chart. The sign of >the 22nd Drekkana, as well as its lord, are similarly dangerous as marakas >and can bring death during related dasas and transits]. > >If the lagna lord, is in exchange with the lord of the 6th, and occupies >the 6th, and further comes under aspects from dangerous planets as >mentioned above, then the year in question can bring greatly challenging >events to effect the longevity and well-being of the population of that >country. > >Further, the Arudha lagna is Leo, from which the New Moon (Sun and Moon) >fall in the 8th, with lagna lord Venus also falling in the 8th >therefrom. The dangerous Mrtyu pada, which is the Arudha of the 8th, is >Capricorn in this chart, and Cp aspects the AL also by rasi >aspect. Saturn, already malefic by rulership of the 64th Navamsa from >Navamsa lagna and Moon, is also ruler of A8, joining 6th lord Jupiter, who >disposits Venus. These are ominous indicators, showing that dangerous and >life-threatening events befall the country during the year 2001. > >SPECIAL NAKSATRAS, AND PLANETARY ASPECTS TO NAKSATRAS - SARVATOBHADRA CHAKRA > >According to the scheme of Sarvatobhadra Chakra, which is an ingenious >approach to the delineation of transit effects of planets in Vedic >Astrology, there are 11 special classification of naksatras. These are as >follows: >1. The constellation occupied by the natal Moon (or Moon of the >transit or event chart) is called Janma naksatra. This naksatra indicates >general well being. > >2. The 10th constellation from the janma, is called Karma >naksatra. This indicates profession and the place of work. > >3. The 18th constellation from the Janma is called Samudayika, which >means "related to a crowd" and shows group activities or consciousness (as >in the chart of the United States or other country) > >4. The 16th constellation from janma, is called Sanghatika, which >means "belonging to a group. It indicates group and social activities. > >5. The 4th constellation from janma, is called Jati, which means >"community". This indicates the class or nature of one's community of >circle of associates. > >6. The 7th constellation from janma, is called Naidhana, which >indicates death and suffering. > >7. The 12th constellation from janma, is called Desa, which means >"country", indicates the country either of one's birth, or of residence (if >different). > >8. The 13th constellation from janma, is called Abhisheka, which means >"coronation", and refers to power and authority. It can also indicate >events bringing the leader of the country to power or improved reputation. > >9. The 19th constellation from janma is called Adhana, which refers to >conception, and indicates well being of the family (or community and >citizenry, in case of the chart of a country). > >10. The 22nd constellation from janma, is called Vainasika, and indicates >destruction, either to an individual, or to his community, family, or >society. > >11. The 25th constellation from janma, is called Manasa, and indicates the >mind. Thus, the mental state of an individual, or of the collective >society, can be shown by this naksatra. > >ASPECTS OF PLANETS ONTO NAKSATRAS. > >In the scheme of Sarvatobhadra Chakra, planets also aspect specific >naksatras. These are as follows: > >The Sun and Moon aspect the 14th and 15th stars from them. >Mars aspects the 1st, 3rd, 7th, 8th, and 15th stars from him. >Mercury and Venus aspect the 1st and 15th stars from them. >Jupiter aspects the 10th, 15th-, and 19th stars from him. >Saturn aspects the 3rd, 5th, 15th, and 19th stars from him. > >Now, natural benefics will give favorable effects to the naksatras that >they aspect, whereas natural malefics will bring very unfavorable >results. In transit or event charts, the naksatras aspected by malefics >are going to bring challenges and difficulties onto the houses/signs >occupied by such naksatras. The rulers of such naksatras which are >aspected, will also be effected negatively, in addition to the affairs >associated with the houses ruled by such naksatras. > >So, taking all the above information into account, note the >following: lagna lord Venus, rules the Vainasika Naksatra (destruction), >which is Purvashadha. Mars aspects the third naksatra from himself, which >also happens to be Purvashadha, and which falls in the sign >Sagittarius. Jupiter, ruling Sg, thus gets the aspect of Mars also. The >Naidhana naksatra (death) is ruled by Mars, and is Mrigashira. So the >strong maraka lord Mars, from his own sign of Scorpio, and ruling the >Naidhana naksatra, represents sure and certain death, and especially so >when he aspects Purvashadha, which is the Vainasika naksatra, and which is >ruled by lagna lord Venus. > >Note also the following interesting observations: Manasa naksatra >(collective the mind), is Danishta; the Sanghatika naksatra (group, or >population), is Chitra; and the Naidhana naksatra (death), *all come under >the rulership of Mars in this chart*. Also note, that on June 21, 2001, >the Total solar eclipse fell at 6:24 Gemini, which is the Naidhana naksatra >of Mrigashira. Thus, the collective mind of the population (group), is >focused on death during the year at hand, and now we can see this >particularly to be the case following the September 11, attacks on innocent >life at the hands of terrorists. > >How all this plays out, and when events might transpire, can be seen from >the Vimsottari dasa compressed to one year, which is the Paramayus, or >longevity of the New year chart. > >COMPRESSED VIMSOTTARI DASA FOR ONE YEAR > >The normal Paramayus for a lifetime, according to the scheme of Vimsottari >dasa, is 120 years. Now, the Paramayus of a Lunar new year chart, is one >year. So, proportioning the normal lengths of Vimsottari dasa to one year, >we get the following as the dasas for the 2001 chart: > >Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon) for 2001 lunar new year chart: > >Maha Dasas: > > Sat: 2001-03-24 (20:21:38) - 2001-05-24 (14:36:40) > Mer: 2001-05-24 (14:36:40) - 2001-07-17 (23:21:41) > Ket: 2001-07-17 (23:21:41) - 2001-08-09 (08:36:41) > Ven: 2001-08-09 (08:36:41) - 2001-10-12 (07:36:43) > Sun: 2001-10-12 (07:36:43) - 2001-10-31 (12:06:43) > Moo: 2001-10-31 (12:06:43) - 2001-12-02 (11:36:44) > Mar: 2001-12-02 (11:36:44) - 2001-12-24 (20:51:44) > Rah: 2001-12-24 (20:51:44) - 2002-02-20 (10:21:46) > Jup: 2002-02-20 (10:21:46) - 2002-04-12 (14:21:47) > >Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > >Ven MD: 2001-08-09 (08:36:41) - 2001-10-12 (07:36:43) > > Antardasas in this MD: > Ven: 2001-08-09 (08:36:41) - 2001-08-20 (00:26:41) > Sun: 2001-08-20 (00:26:41) - 2001-08-23 (05:11:42) > Moo: 2001-08-23 (05:11:42) - 2001-08-28 (13:06:42) > Mar: 2001-08-28 (13:06:42) - 2001-09-01 (06:39:12) > Rah: 2001-09-01 (06:39:12) - 2001-09-10 (20:54:12) > Jup: 2001-09-10 (20:54:12) - 2001-09-19 (09:34:12) > Sat: 2001-09-19 (09:34:12) - 2001-09-29 (12:36:42) > Mer: 2001-09-29 (12:36:42) - 2001-10-08 (14:04:13) > Ket: 2001-10-08 (14:04:13) - 2001-10-12 (07:36:43) > >Thus, the September 11th attacks too place during the dasa of >Venus/Jupiter. Note, as mentioned before the inauspicious parivartana >between lagna lord and 6th lord Jupiter, who is in the 8th with a very >malefic Saturn as mentioned before. Note the aspect of Mars to Jupiter, as >well as to Purvashadha, who is the Vainasika naksatra (Destruction), ruled >by lagna lord Venus. Apamrtyu Saham, which is a specific point relegated >to untimely death, is at 24 Aries, which is the star Bharani, and which is >also ruled by Venus. So there is too much death and destruction >associating with Venus. Venus in turn, aspects the naksatras of Dhanishta >and Chitra, ruled by Mars, and thus throughout the dasa of Venus, a >stealthy and diplomatic response to the attacks has been under way. As >long as the Venus dasa is in place, overt military reprisals will not take >place. Instead, covert operations, as well as diplomatic efforts to draw >the support of other countries, will go on. > >The Sun, ruling the AL, and falling in the 8th therefrom, aspects the >constellation Hasta and Uttaraphalguni, which fall in the sign Virgo/12th >house, and thus continued leveraging of foreign leaders to support the >offensive against terrorism, will take place. Sun, however, is debilitated >in the 12th in the Navamsa, and thus not too much in the way of successful >operations is likely to take place during this dasa. Same is true for the >dasa of the Moon which follows. Mars dasa, taking place in the month of >December, is likely to start the fireworks, in the form of all-out military >assaults, and we should be seeing these on the news on a nightly >basis. Since Mars also aspects Purvashadha, ruled by lagna lord Venus, >there could be more terrorist attacks on the citizenry of the US during the >December period of the Mars dasa. > >The lunar new year chart for 2002 shows harsh indicators of all out war, >and I will discuss this chart next, if anybody would like me to do so. > >For more information on special aspects of planets to naksatras, as well as >special functions of naksatras as used in this article, get the following >excellent book by Narasimha Rao: "Vedic Astrology: An Integrated >Approach". These concepts appeared originally, in "Crux of Vedic >Astrology: Timing of Events", by Sri Sanjay Rath. > >Best wishes, >Robert > >===================================== >Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer >760 NW Broken Arrow Rd. >Bend, OR. 97701-9037 >Phone: 541-318-0248 >visit <http://www.robertkoch.com> or e-mail >rk. rk and >rkoch rkoch > > > > > > >gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2001 Report Share Posted October 3, 2001 Dear Chris, Thanks for your follow-up and comments on what I wrote vis a vis the Lunar new chart. At 12:33 PM 10/3/01 -0400, you wrote: >Robert: > >Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this important subject. I found much >of it difficult to absorb though because many of the concepts you use are >unfamiliar to me. I guess I'll have to bone up on Sanjay's menagerie! :-) > From a more "mainstream" perspective, I was struck by the relative absence >of any close aspects between key planets. Given the monumentality of the >attacks, I would have thought that clearer sharper patterns would have >existed in the horoscope. Certainly, Saturn's malefic power is amplified >by its status as 64th navamsha owner, as you point out. But something as >historically significant as Sept 11th was should have clear signs using >simpler more standard tools. * "Simple" tools are only the ones you're used to working with. If certain methods are not generally used by most astrologers, they are not necessarily more complicated or abstract tools - they are simply unfamiliar. Anyway, that being said, there are some ominous indications that do not, in my mind anyway, fall into the complicated category: Saturn, as you confirmed, rules two very dangerous Navamsa, i.e. the 64th from the ascendant, and from the Moon also, and is vargottama in the 22nd Drekkana. These are fairly standard tools. * What struck me the most about this chart - although I didn't write on it per se (Tara Suryamani mentioned it later) - was that the lagna at almost 5 degrees Libra, falls exactly in the Mrtyu bhaga point for Libra. Similarly, lagna lord Venus falls in the MB point in Pisces also, i.e. just short of 19 degrees. Saturn, already malefic, afflicts the dispositor Venus and 6th lord Jupiter in the 8th - Saturn is also in MB, which is 4 degrees of Taurus. * Now, when working with charts concerned with life, death, and longevity, certain factors have to eventually become part of our vocabulary, according to Maharishis Jaimini and Parasara. The Arudha lagna is, its 3rd and 8th houses therefrom, must not be afflicted. If they are, then death is certain in charts of individuals, and what then to speak of a chart of collective individuals, such as this one. The Arudha lagna is in Leo, its third is Libra (whose cusp is in MB), and whose lord is Venus in MB as we've seen. The lunation itself occurs in the 8th from the AL, while the 8th (which is the 6th from the natural lagna), as a dire affliction from Saturn. The fact of the lagna lord being involved with all of this, along with the AL lord Sun, is very ominous to me. * Now, the most revealing thing of all, is the compressed Vim. dasa for the chart. At the time of the attacks, Venus/Jupiter was in operation, the malefic status of which I described previously. Summarizing, in Ayur Jyotish, certain factors have to be born in mind, otherwise we come to the wrong conclusions, or we over-look something: The Arudha lagna, as well as its 3rd and 8th; the Arudhas of 8th and 6th, and the relationship they have if any, with lagna or 3rd/8th lords from the ascendant; the Atmakaraka, as well as the positions/involvement of Rudra and Maheswara, who time and again have shown to be operative during dasas which bring about death in the charts of individuals. Frankly, this is the first time I've seen this chart, as I do not generally work with Mundane astrology. In any case, at least a retrospective analysis enables us to see which tools work, and which ones do not. Regarding exact aspects: there do not have to be exact aspects by orb in Jyotish, as you know - the aspect falling anywhere within 30 degrees of the sign is sufficient. The closer the aspect, of course, the more noticeable, but aspects will work powerfully even if falling within wide orbs. Rashi aspects, also, are always full aspects. They represent the effects of the physical environment as set up from birth, or from the karma of an individual, or the collective karma of a group of people. Note even that rashi aspects of planets within those rashis, also have their greater noticeable effects if the orb between aspected planets is exact. In this chart, note that the nodes at 17:25, form almost exact aspects to Venus at 18. >My limited knowledge of mundane astrology also includes this New Moon >method. However, I have also found that one has to use the parallax Moon >chart as well. For those members who might not be familiar with the >parallax Moon, it is the actual position of the Moon from the point of >observation on the surface of the Earth, in this case, Washington DC. Most >astrologers however use the geocentric position of the Moon, which is >ascertained from the centre of the Earth. > >The parallax New Moon occurred at 9:41:25 pm in Washington, over an hour >after the geocentric chart. this parallax chart is interesting not because >there's any difference in the house position of any planets -- they don't >change at all, it's still Libra rising -- but because one key planet is now >angular. Uranus 29Cp25, the planet of sudden shock and surprises, is >exactly conjunct the IC/4th house cusp 29Cp51. I can't imagine a better >astrological pattern for a shock on the home front. Moreover, the navamsha >position of Saturn 29Cp58, is also exactly conjunct this IC, suggesting >difficulties at home. Other telling contacts could be noted using other >relevant varga charts, such as the D-8 and D-11. If members are so >inclined, I could post my ideas on those varga charts as well. The Parallax Moon correspondences that you note, are interesting, although I have not worked with PM. Certainly if you can find direct conjunctions to house cusps, you're onto something! Best wishes, Robert ===================================== Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer 760 NW Broken Arrow Rd. Bend, OR. 97701-9037 Phone: 541-318-0248 visit <http://www.robertkoch.com> or e-mail rk. rk and rkoch rkoch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2001 Report Share Posted October 3, 2001 > My limited knowledge of mundane astrology also includes this New Moon method. However, I have also found that one has to use the parallax Moon chart as well. For those members who might not be familiar with the parallax Moon, < Chris, It is interesting to note that the nakshatra Vishaka rises in the topocentric moon chart. Vishaka is the conqueror ,fixated on defeating rivals(DeFouw). It is a much more aggressive nakshatra than Chitra. Also the third drekkana of Libra is an ayudha(weapons) drekkana. I have often noticed that the rising nakshatra seems more relevant using topocentric moon for eclipses and new moons. The lunar new year chart for Washington 4 April 2000 topocentric,has first degree of Leo rising . This is in the nakshatra Magha. The symbol for Magha is the Royal seat or throne and is associated with ambition ,leadership and power.This was the election year. Ashlesha rises in the geocentric chart. Regards Ron NEW from GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities./ps/info1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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