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Dear list,

within and outside the big debate about war, bombs and so on there are still

individual strokes of fate.

One of them is a woman, actually suffering a massive multiple sclerosis

attack.

The left eye is blind and the right eye seems to follow now. Highest doses

of corticoid have been given. The main increase took place around sept. 24.

and got worse from day to day. The ophtalmologist informed her about the

possibility to keep blind if there would be no amelioration in the next few

days.

Here are her dates: nov. 6. 1963, 10:57h AM , zone 1.00, 7E13 50N19

Ascendant is 27°52 scorpio, Houck ayanamsha

Please give your prognosis: Will she recover from actual blindness?

How will be her state of health regarding the next months?

Assuming your predictions, I will keep you informed.

Regards, Ilona

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Dear Ilona,

This chart might afford (us all) a little light relief from the current world

crisis...unfortunately I've no time to even look at it right now. With my Son

moving in with me today (no longer coping with his life) and no spare room to

accommodate him things are topsy turvy around here, to say the least :-)

 

Hope others will turn away from the terrorist conflict long enough to offer

their views...

 

Best Wishes,

 

Wendy Vasicek: Vedic Astrologer

http://welcome.to/Vedic Astrology/

 

>>>Dear list,

within and outside the big debate about war, bombs and so on there are still

individual strokes of fate.

One of them is a woman, actually suffering a massive multiple sclerosis

attack.

The left eye is blind and the right eye seems to follow now. Highest doses

of corticoid have been given. The main increase took place around sept. 24.

and got worse from day to day. The ophtalmologist informed her about the

possibility to keep blind if there would be no amelioration in the next few

days.

Here are her dates: nov. 6. 1963, 10:57h AM , zone 1.00, 7E13 50N19

Ascendant is 27°52 scorpio, Houck ayanamsha

Please give your prognosis: Will she recover from actual blindness?

How will be her state of health regarding the next months?

Assuming your predictions, I will keep you informed.

Regards, Ilona<<<

 

 

 

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Dear Ilona

It looks very tough .The MD and PD Lord Mercury has gone to the 12th house

of confinements and is highly combust and closely aspected by AD Lord Rahu

from the 8th .The Sun functional ruler for sight has gone to the house of

losses and is closely conjunct 8th and 11th Lord Mercury traditionally

considered FM .The combination is also aspected by separative Saturn .

Jupiter the 2nd lord of sight however is quite strong and

offers some hope although even then it has a weak aspect from separative

Saturn .Both the 2nd hose and 12th house contain malefics .My overall

assessment is that she will lose her sight though of course I hope I am

wrong and I would certainly try some remedial measures and avoid fatalism .

 

On a more positive note I understand that Ayurvedic Doctors can put MS

patients on a program that avoids deterioration

and enables them to live a reasonably normal life .For treatment of chronic

conditions Ayurveda is the best system of health management and is the best

long term approach aside from what allopathic Doctors can do during the

acute phase .One Ayurvedic Doctor I know who has dealt with this condition

and maybe able to provide further information is Dr Partap Chauhan who has a

website ayurvedic.org or can be e-mailed at info

I think Wendy knows something about Ayurveda and jyotish so when she is not

so busy she may be able to help.

 

Hope this helps

Nicholas

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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> >>>Dear list,

> within and outside the big debate about war, bombs and so on there are

still

> individual strokes of fate.

> One of them is a woman, actually suffering a massive multiple sclerosis

> attack.

> The left eye is blind and the right eye seems to follow now. Highest

doses

> of corticoid have been given. The main increase took place around sept.

24.

> and got worse from day to day. The ophtalmologist informed her about the

> possibility to keep blind if there would be no amelioration in the next

few

> days.

> Here are her dates: nov. 6. 1963, 10:57h AM , zone 1.00, 7E13 50N19

> Ascendant is 27°52 scorpio, Houck ayanamsha

> Please give your prognosis: Will she recover from actual blindness?

> How will be her state of health regarding the next months?

> Assuming your predictions, I will keep you informed.

> Regards, Ilona<<<

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[Guest guest]

Dear Nicholas,

many thank for your kind help. This woman is a homeopathic collegue of me,

thus she is somewhat connected with ayurveda too. Meantimes she gets some

homeopathic treatment of another collegue too. I sent her the address you

mentioned in your letter. You can imagine how disturbed her feelings are and

she would take all the remedies of the world to regain her eyesight. This is

a great difficulty, as she is not consistent in her medical habit now.

Unfortunately her professional career and her financial income will also be

in danger.

Let`s hope for the best, but fate seems to play a big role in her case.

Best wishes, Ilona

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Ilona:

 

I don't have a lot of medical astrology experience but I took a look just

the same. It's interesting that tr. Mars just passed an exact square with

2L(eyes) Jupiter 17Pi42. This was exact about two days ago. My general

idea is that the malefic influence on her eysight will begin to subside now

that Mars is past its exact 4H aspect. When Mars moves into Capricorn

(about mid Oct) it will no longer be aspecting Jupiter at all. Also, I

think benefic Venus' aspect on Jupiter will help her eyes once it moves

into Virgo around Oct 10. I can't say if the damage has been done but

there is clear relief from the aspects that might have contributed to the

blindness attack.

 

sending my best wishes to her,

 

Chris

 

At 04:05 PM 9/29/01 +0200, you wrote:

>Dear list,

>within and outside the big debate about war, bombs and so on there are still

>individual strokes of fate.

>One of them is a woman, actually suffering a massive multiple sclerosis

>attack.

>The left eye is blind and the right eye seems to follow now. Highest doses

>of corticoid have been given. The main increase took place around sept. 24.

>and got worse from day to day. The ophtalmologist informed her about the

>possibility to keep blind if there would be no amelioration in the next few

>days.

>Here are her dates: nov. 6. 1963, 10:57h AM , zone 1.00, 7E13 50N19

>Ascendant is 27°52 scorpio, Houck ayanamsha

>Please give your prognosis: Will she recover from actual blindness?

>How will be her state of health regarding the next months?

>Assuming your predictions, I will keep you informed.

>Regards, Ilona

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Om Krsnaaya Namah

 

Hi Ilona,

 

Whilst my experience in medical astrology is limited, I took a look at the

chart you submitted, and am posting my analysis here. Any feedback would be

appreciated.

 

The chart contains some rather troublesome indications as far as eyesight

goes, and any serious Vedic astrologer, whether beginner, intermediate or

advanced would have spotted the indications in the chart that the current

Mercury-Rahu period would be difficult for health, and eyesight in

particular. Looking at the chart, we first come to the second house which

signifies the right eye. It happens to be occupied by the natural malefic

Ketu, and it is hemmed-in by the malefics Mars and Saturn. It is aspected by

the Moon, but considering that it is waning, and it occupies the

twenty-second Drekkana, it's aspect is anything but helpful. The Lord of the

second house - Jupiter - is quite strong because he occupies a trikona, in

his own sign in both the rasi and navamsa. But he is retrograde. My limited

experience suggests that while retrograde planets are strengthened, they

often have a detrimental effect on the living significations of the houses

they rule and occupy. As such, Jupiter is not a provider of great strength

for the eyes, especially considering the other astrological indications.

 

The twelfth house is meant to represent the left eye, and here it is very

afflicted. It is occupied by the debilitated Sun, and is aspected by Saturn

and Rahu. Mercury also occupies the house, and as the ruler of the eighth,

it is harmful. All these planets also have a far more subtle side of danger

as well. Mercury not only rules the eighth, but he also rules the Arudha of

the sixth house, and therefore indicates the physical manifestations of

disease. Mercury also occupies his mrtyu bhaga degree, and this makes him

far more dangerous than normal. Finally, Mercury attains the post of Rudra,

which makes him an extremely destructive force in the chart, and this is

exacerbated greatly by the fact that he is closely combust, and tightly

aspected by two natural malefics - Rahu and Saturn. All of his associates

also have their own nasty sides. The Sun is the Lord of the sixty-fourth

navamsa. Rahu is the chara jnati karaka, and therefore becomes a kinda

temporary significator of the sixth. He also occupies the twenty-second

drekkana, and is co-lord of the arudha of the eighth, and of the

twenty-second drekkana. Because he occupies the eighth, he sponges some of

that trika/dussthana energy. Saturn co-rules the arudha of the eighth and

the twenty-second drekkana. These points are all supposed to be important in

medical astrology, and so the occupation of the eighth lord in the twelfth,

while aspected closely by these mega-malefics sets up a major arishta-yoga.

 

The Sun, the karaka for eyesight, is not better-off either. He has to take

the close aspects from Saturn and Rahu, as well as the close conjunction of

Mercury who is not as nice as one may intially think. Furthermore, the Sun

also occupies the twenty-second drekkana.

 

Having established that the indications for eyesight are not good, let's now

consider the timing. The native is running the Vimsottari Dasa of

Mercury-Rahu. The danger Mercury poses for health has already been

discussed, and in-fact so far as health is concerned, I'd say Mercury is

probably the most dangerous planet and should be watched closely. Mercury is

also extremely afflicted, and being in the twelfth, conjunct the Sun, the

eyesight is the most obvious target. Rahu's aspect is the strongest, and

Rahu himself ain't particularly good as far as health is concerned, so the

dasha's are pretty clear here. What about transits? Currently the native is

undergoing Sade-Sati, and this is a perfect time for the events indicated by

the natal arishta yoga and the dasha sequence to manifest. Rahu and Ketu are

transiting their natal positions, and are therefore restimulating their

natal positions and wreaking the havoc they indicate for the eyes in the

chart. Saturn's Sade Sati is especially bad as he only has 20 SAV bindus and

3 BAV bindus.

 

Looking briefly at the Prashna Chart for the time I read your mail (Data:

29/9/2001, 15:09:15, Edgware England - Wembley is a close substitute - Lagna

= 13* Sag), we see an evil Sarpa yoga, albeit a broken one. The Lagna is

occupied by two natural malefics and the Lagna Lord is conjunct Rahu, and

aspected by Mars. The second Lord, Saturn, occupies the house of disease in

retrograde motion. These are not nice indications. Jupiter's aspect onto his

own lagna, and close aspect to the twelfth Lord Mars promises some good

news.

 

So to conclude, I see both eyes as being problematic. Things may stabilise

for a while, but the right eye may in fact get worse. The native should be

extremely cautious when Saturn transits Gemini, because aside from the fact

that this is Sade Sati, Saturn then aspects the second house of the right

eye, and here there are only 26 SAV bindus, and 0 (!) bindus in Saturn's

BAV. Saturn transits to the second house are therefore extremely

problematic, and considering the native will still be in rather nasty

dashas, further complications are a possibility. If at all possible, regular

recitation of the Narayana Kavacha from the Bhagavata Purana, and Narasimha

Kavacha from the Brahmanda Purana is recommended. Both are powerful armours.

Apologies for being negative - just trying to be honest.

 

My best wishes to the native,

 

Pursottam

 

 

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Hi Pursottam, hi list,

Pursottam, you should write a book! I enjoyed very much your sensitive and

understandable approach to this item.

Combining your work and those of Satay, Nicholas and Chris, we might have a

pretty essay about blindness.

The native visited her doctor today and there is no change of state for the

moment. He prescribed corticoids again. The left eye is dark and the right

eye is very weak.

 

Hence the most is just written, allow me to add some (perhaps unusal) views.

In regards of the eyes, the nakshatra is ardra, 6°40 -19°59 gemini. Starlord

is Rahu, who is just transitting through his own star. Rahu also is the sub

sub of the natives 1st and 2nd KP house cusp (right eye). His partner ketu

occupies the 2nd house, you know.

Deity of ardra is Rudra (Pluto), the thundergod (manifestation of Shiva),

according to my literature. Keywords: new growth by elimination of old

rubbish.

Let me quote the following text by Roland de Looff: "This lunar

constellation is very demanding. It knows both heaven and hell. Ardra is

dominated by the star Betelgeuse. It does not like a superficial life.

The god that belongs to this constellation is Rudra, the thundergod. Rudra

destroys everything that does not belong to a particular person.

Most of the time, the ego considers these activities to be negative. Suppose

you have a job that is neither good or bad and at least provides you with a

reasonable income. However, your soul may feel that it is better for you to

start leading another kind of life, for example the uncertain life of an

artist.

If Ardra plays an important role in your horoscope, you may risk loosing

that job, thus creating room for something new, a career as an artist for

example. The person to whom this happens often sees the negative aspect of

the loss of the job, but not the positive aspect of the new possibilities

that raise. That is a pity because Ardra`s moistness may manifest itself as

the moistness of a tear (shedding tears over the loss, sometimes the tear is

considered as the symbol of Ardra) or as the moistness of the green, the new

and the fresh things. It is up to the person in question what it will be.

If he is flexible and open to new possibilities, Ardra will manifest itself

as the green of the fresh spring. If, on the other hand, it turns out to be

a person who definitely wants to stick to the old, than Ardra manifests

itself as the moistness of a tear. The symbol of Ardra is a diamond.

Diamonds originate from a pit coal that has been under high pressure for

millions of years. This pressure creates the purity and beauty of the

diamond that finally emanates out of this pit of coal."

 

For those of you, who take the outer planets too, you will find Rudra-pluto

on 20°31 leo exactly forming a sextile with the sun and mercury in libra.

The 97. ( 18-6-40 to 20-6-40leo) sub is under sun, venus, rahu and indicates

eye trouble. the 98. (20-6-40 to 21-53-20 leo) indicates much blood,

obstructions, corrupt blood, fever, boils, tumors, inflammations.

Uranus being on 16°04 leo (15-33-20 to 16-13-20) sub 94 indicates eye

-defect.

The degrees of 20° are highly triggered in the moment due to saturn`s

station and transit in taurus. Pluto will pass also this 20 degree in

scorpio within the change of year 2001/2002 for the second time, thus

forming a quadrant to his rasi position. This will be very dangerous for her

eyesight.

Uranus, coruler of aquarius, the natural 11th house and indicator for

nervesystem, spine (as leo does too), coordination of nerval signals, will

be stationary on oct 31 2001 exactly forming a square with the ascendent.

This might provoke another MS attack.

Her arabian part for sickness is in her rasi 11th house 19°40 virgo, so very

much connected with the other 20° in her chart.

2002 will be also very dangerous for her, because jupiter will be stationary

on 11°49 gemini on march 1. and a lunar eclipse will occur in her first

house scorpio on 11°22.

These degrees are highly sensitive too because saturn`s last station before

here birth took place on 11°31 capricorn and there was a solar eclipse very

close or just on the day of conception on 11°37 capricorn.

Her Navamsha lagna is around 11° pisces!

There is another hidden point in her chart: her arabian part for the most

dangerous year is on 1°14 taurus. Uranus will form an exact square when he

will be stationary in 1°06 aquarius on nov. 4. 2002. If you take a look to

her varga degrees you may find this degree very much treatend, for example

are rahu and ketu exactly opposite this degree in leo, regarding her

40-Khavedamsha.

So we really must be prepared for the worst and this is very difficult to

believe.

Regards, Ilona

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Om Gurave Namah--------------------------Dear Ilona,

 

That is a very thought provoking mail and a brilliant one at that. Just one

point. The term Rudra has been specifically defined for the 'eighth lord' from

any sign and the eighth lord from Atmakaraka becomes Maheswara. Thus, since the

Atmakaraka is in one sign, the sign in the eighth from it produces the Maheswara

and the other 11 signs produce 11 Rudra called the Ekadasa Rudra.

 

The concept of Rudra is very ancient and an integral part of the Veda's and

Vedic Astrology where the Maharishi's have mentioned mothing about Pluto etc.

So, some modernday astrologers have coined names for the outer planets like

Varuna to signify Neptune whereas Varuna is the Lord of the Western Direction

and is a Digpalaka like Indra. Another name that I have found some using is

Yama and Yama too is the Lord of Bharini and the Dugpala of the southern

direction. So, the use of rudra for Pluto creates unnecessary confusion. Do use

the name Pluto itself as this is fine if you use outer planets. In fact we all

use Sun, Moon etc names these days to avoid too many terms.

 

That bit about Ardra is really brilliant..We could do with some more notes on

the Nakshatra and the way you use them so well.Best WishesSanjay Rath

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Re: [gjlist] medical prediction

Hi Pursottam, hi list,Pursottam, you should write a book! I enjoyed very much

your sensitive andunderstandable approach to this item.Combining your work and

those of Satay, Nicholas and Chris, we might have apretty essay about

blindness.The native visited her doctor today and there is no change of state

for themoment. He prescribed corticoids again. The left eye is dark and the

righteye is very weak.Hence the most is just written, allow me to add some

(perhaps unusal) views.In regards of the eyes, the nakshatra is ardra, 6°40

-19°59 gemini. Starlordis Rahu, who is just transitting through his own star.

Rahu also is the subsub of the natives 1st and 2nd KP house cusp (right eye).

His partner ketuoccupies the 2nd house, you know.Deity of ardra is Rudra

(Pluto), the thundergod (manifestation of Shiva),according to my literature.

Keywords: new growth by elimination of oldrubbish.Let me quote the following

text by Roland de Looff: "This lunarconstellation is very demanding. It knows

both heaven and hell. Ardra isdominated by the star Betelgeuse. It does not

like a superficial life.The god that belongs to this constellation is Rudra,

the thundergod. Rudradestroys everything that does not belong to a particular

person.Most of the time, the ego considers these activities to be negative.

Supposeyou have a job that is neither good or bad and at least provides you

with areasonable income. However, your soul may feel that it is better for you

tostart leading another kind of life, for example the uncertain life of

anartist.If Ardra plays an important role in your horoscope, you may risk

loosingthat job, thus creating room for something new, a career as an artist

forexample. The person to whom this happens often sees the negative aspect

ofthe loss of the job, but not the positive aspect of the new possibilitiesthat

raise. That is a pity because Ardra`s moistness may manifest itself asthe

moistness of a tear (shedding tears over the loss, sometimes the tear

isconsidered as the symbol of Ardra) or as the moistness of the green, the

newand the fresh things. It is up to the person in question what it will be.If

he is flexible and open to new possibilities, Ardra will manifest itselfas the

green of the fresh spring. If, on the other hand, it turns out to bea person

who definitely wants to stick to the old, than Ardra manifestsitself as the

moistness of a tear. The symbol of Ardra is a diamond.Diamonds originate from a

pit coal that has been under high pressure formillions of years. This pressure

creates the purity and beauty of thediamond that finally emanates out of this

pit of coal."For those of you, who take the outer planets too, you will find

Rudra-plutoon 20°31 leo exactly forming a sextile with the sun and mercury in

libra.The 97. ( 18-6-40 to 20-6-40leo) sub is under sun, venus, rahu and

indicateseye trouble. the 98. (20-6-40 to 21-53-20 leo) indicates much

blood,obstructions, corrupt blood, fever, boils, tumors, inflammations.Uranus

being on 16°04 leo (15-33-20 to 16-13-20) sub 94 indicates eye-defect.The

degrees of 20° are highly triggered in the moment due to saturn`sstation and

transit in taurus. Pluto will pass also this 20 degree inscorpio within the

change of year 2001/2002 for the second time, thusforming a quadrant to his

rasi position. This will be very dangerous for hereyesight.Uranus, coruler of

aquarius, the natural 11th house and indicator fornervesystem, spine (as leo

does too), coordination of nerval signals, willbe stationary on oct 31 2001

exactly forming a square with the ascendent.This might provoke another MS

attack.Her arabian part for sickness is in her rasi 11th house 19°40 virgo, so

verymuch connected with the other 20° in her chart.2002 will be also very

dangerous for her, because jupiter will be stationaryon 11°49 gemini on march

1. and a lunar eclipse will occur in her firsthouse scorpio on 11°22.These

degrees are highly sensitive too because saturn`s last station beforehere birth

took place on 11°31 capricorn and there was a solar eclipse veryclose or just on

the day of conception on 11°37 capricorn.Her Navamsha lagna is around 11°

pisces!There is another hidden point in her chart: her arabian part for the

mostdangerous year is on 1°14 taurus. Uranus will form an exact square when

hewill be stationary in 1°06 aquarius on nov. 4. 2002. If you take a look toher

varga degrees you may find this degree very much treatend, for exampleare rahu

and ketu exactly opposite this degree in leo, regarding her40-Khavedamsha.So we

really must be prepared for the worst and this is very difficult

tobelieve.Regards, IlonaTo from this group, send an email

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