Guest guest Posted September 28, 2001 Report Share Posted September 28, 2001 Greetings members of the forum. I will speak my message with kindness and sweetness as per the request of Das Goravani. For those of you who think America to be a bad place, let me ask you this question. Why do you think that the entire world is trying to get Visas to come to America and become citizens? It is because America (for all its flaws) is the light of freedom and hope for the world. That is why so many want to come here. To taste that sweet nectar of freedom and opportunity that we Americans are so blessed to have. Now about Hindu pacifists.......Well it is true that Hinduism is a broad umbrella of a religion, and there are many flavors. However, Hindu pacifists are rare. Do you doubt my words? Then please reread the Gita. As Krishna and Arjuna are on the battle field, Arjuna decides he does not want to fight. Krishna tells him that it is his Dharma to go to war and fight. Did Krishna say this thinking Arjuna would bomb his enemies with butter? No. Did Krishna say this thinking Arjuna would hold hands with his enemies and sing Kumbaya? No. In fact, Krishna said his words to Arjuna knowing full well that Arjuna would lead him army across the battle field and kill thousands and thousands of his own countrymen and kinsmen. This is reality. And now it is the Dharma of America to fight this war. We do not fight this war with gladness, but with a heavy heart for all those who will die. May God Bless America Max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2001 Report Share Posted September 29, 2001 Dear Max, In Oldern Days, Only soldiers were involved in war. Atleast, they dont kill innocents. War can lead to change of the King/Ruler. What abt Modern war fare. Let us come in2 fedaralism and capitalism: Capitalism wont care abt the blood mark on the currency. Just think abt it. Say there is XYZ Inc in US. XYZ Inc goes to some poor 3rd world country and invests there.. They bought(steal) the resources at low price.. Who is reaping the benifits outta this.. The 3rd world country or The Robbers aka capitalists. Capitalists/MNCs analogous to Cruel Money Lenders..Thats it, if u understand deeply. Did u care abt small scare retailers in US. My friend`s father killed himself due to the invasion of corporate retail chain network in US Just distinguish ~Money, Media, Politics~ from normal people.. It would solve the problem.. Is there REALLY a solution.. Regarding Visas, think of Transitive relation. U will get the answer to the question. Vidya = Education = Which Enlightens The World education system in the state of bankruptcy..The education is really feeding the people, and teaching how to deceive, ex: Ponzi schemes, stock markets blah blah No Offense, Best regards, Venkat > Greetings members of the forum. I will speak my message with kindness and > sweetness as per the request of Das Goravani. > > For those of you who think America to be a bad place, let me ask you this > question. Why do you think that the entire world is trying to get Visas to > come to America and become citizens? It is because America (for all its > flaws) is the light of freedom and hope for the world. That is why so many > want to come here. To taste that sweet nectar of freedom and opportunity that > we Americans are so blessed to have. > > Now about Hindu pacifists.......Well it is true that Hinduism is a broad > umbrella of a religion, and there are many flavors. However, Hindu pacifists > are rare. Do you doubt my words? Then please reread the Gita. As Krishna and > Arjuna are on the battle field, Arjuna decides he does not want to fight. > Krishna tells him that it is his Dharma to go to war and fight. Did Krishna > say this thinking Arjuna would bomb his enemies with butter? No. Did Krishna > say this thinking Arjuna would hold hands with his enemies and sing Kumbaya? > No. In fact, Krishna said his words to Arjuna knowing full well that Arjuna > would lead him army across the battle field and kill thousands and thousands > of his own countrymen and kinsmen. This is reality. And now it is the Dharma > of America to fight this war. We do not fight this war with gladness, but > with a heavy heart for all those who will die. > > May God Bless America > > Max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2001 Report Share Posted September 29, 2001 > are rare. Do you doubt my words? Then please reread the Gita. As > Krishna and Arjuna are on the battle field, Arjuna decides he does > not want to fight. Krishna tells him that it is his Dharma to go to > war and fight. Did Krishna > say this thinking Arjuna would bomb > his enemies with butter? Again, u missed basics.. Grow up lil kid. You are abusing Gita here Dharma, Artha, Kama, Mokhsa. Everything shud be on the foundation of Dharma. Where is Dharma? Grow up..U silly adaptive person you r fit to a group, where ~only Moksha based on Kama(sex), without Dharma~. Go n join such group. No Offense Regards, Venkat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2001 Report Share Posted September 29, 2001 You have said to me: "You are abusing the Gita". "Grow up little kid.Go join another group." Why are you indulging in harsh and nasty speech? Max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2001 Report Share Posted September 29, 2001 "In olden days civilians were not killed in war." Do you really believe that? Max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2001 Report Share Posted September 29, 2001 Thank you Manriquez for your response. I am glad that someone has decided to respond with civility and understanding. Others are too busy flaming me to understand. Max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2001 Report Share Posted September 29, 2001 Dear Venkat... you hit the nail one more time !! ' Vidya = Education = Which Enlightens' no more is needed , but Vidya is been replace buy the contrary in modern education, hope things will improve, but mmmmh. best wishes C.S.das gjlist, "Venkateshwara A Reddy" <venkateshwara_reddy> wrote: > Dear Max, > In Oldern Days, Only soldiers were involved in war. Atleast, they > dont kill innocents. War can lead to change of the King/Ruler. What > abt Modern war fare. > > Let us come in2 fedaralism and capitalism: > Capitalism wont care abt the blood mark on the currency. Just think > abt it. Say there is XYZ Inc in US. XYZ Inc goes to some poor 3rd > world country and invests there.. They bought(steal) the resources at > low price.. Who is reaping the benifits outta this.. The 3rd world > country or The Robbers aka capitalists. > > Capitalists/MNCs analogous to Cruel Money Lenders..Thats it, if u > understand deeply. > > Did u care abt small scare retailers in US. My friend`s father killed > himself due to the invasion of corporate retail chain network in US > > Just distinguish ~Money, Media, Politics~ from normal people.. > It would solve the problem.. Is there REALLY a solution.. > > Regarding Visas, think of Transitive relation. U will get the answer > to the question. > Vidya = Education = Which Enlightens > > The World education system in the state of bankruptcy..The education > is really feeding the people, and teaching how to deceive, ex: Ponzi > schemes, stock markets blah blah > > No Offense, Best regards, Venkat > > Greetings members of the forum. I will speak my message with > kindness and > > sweetness as per the request of Das Goravani. > > > > For those of you who think America to be a bad place, let me ask > you this > > question. Why do you think that the entire world is trying to get > Visas to > > come to America and become citizens? It is because America (for all > its > > flaws) is the light of freedom and hope for the world. That is why > so many > > want to come here. To taste that sweet nectar of freedom and > opportunity that > > we Americans are so blessed to have. > > > > Now about Hindu pacifists.......Well it is true that Hinduism is a > broad > > umbrella of a religion, and there are many flavors. However, Hindu > pacifists > > are rare. Do you doubt my words? Then please reread the Gita. As > Krishna and > > Arjuna are on the battle field, Arjuna decides he does not want to > fight. > > Krishna tells him that it is his Dharma to go to war and fight. Did > Krishna > > say this thinking Arjuna would bomb his enemies with butter? No. > Did Krishna > > say this thinking Arjuna would hold hands with his enemies and sing > Kumbaya? > > No. In fact, Krishna said his words to Arjuna knowing full well > that Arjuna > > would lead him army across the battle field and kill thousands and > thousands > > of his own countrymen and kinsmen. This is reality. And now it is > the Dharma > > of America to fight this war. We do not fight this war with > gladness, but > > with a heavy heart for all those who will die. > > > > May God Bless America > > > > Max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2001 Report Share Posted September 29, 2001 one more pranams !! Everything shud be on the foundation of Dharma and under the direction of Rsis ( enlighten polititians ) not under the hand of 'Money masters' . Hope Mr. Rockefeller and NWO get the point , and use his Shakti in the service of Dharma. best regards Hare Ram Krishna Pd: I'll be away for few weeks gjlist, "Venkateshwara A Reddy" <venkateshwara_reddy> wrote: > > are rare. Do you doubt my words? Then please reread the Gita. As > > Krishna and Arjuna are on the battle field, Arjuna decides he does > > not want to fight. Krishna tells him that it is his Dharma to go to > > war and fight. Did Krishna > say this thinking Arjuna would bomb > > his enemies with butter? > > Again, u missed basics.. Grow up lil kid. You are abusing Gita here > Dharma, Artha, Kama, Mokhsa. > > Everything shud be on the foundation of Dharma. > > Where is Dharma? > > Grow up..U silly adaptive person > you r fit to a group, where ~only Moksha based on Kama(sex), without > Dharma~. Go n join such group. > > No Offense > Regards, Venkat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2001 Report Share Posted September 29, 2001 I think this thinking is right. Krishna gives a brillinat explanation about dharma and adharma in BG and fight is dharma whenever is needed. Just one opinion > > Vogueshots [sMTP:Vogueshots] > Viernes, 28 de Septiembre de 2001 18:36 > gjlist > [gjlist] Reality Check > > > Greetings members of the forum. I will speak my message with kindness and > sweetness as per the request of Das Goravani. > > For those of you who think America to be a bad place, let me ask you this > question. Why do you think that the entire world is trying to get Visas to > > come to America and become citizens? It is because America (for all its > flaws) is the light of freedom and hope for the world. That is why so many > > want to come here. To taste that sweet nectar of freedom and opportunity > that > we Americans are so blessed to have. > > Now about Hindu pacifists.......Well it is true that Hinduism is a broad > umbrella of a religion, and there are many flavors. However, Hindu > pacifists > are rare. Do you doubt my words? Then please reread the Gita. As Krishna > and > Arjuna are on the battle field, Arjuna decides he does not want to fight. > Krishna tells him that it is his Dharma to go to war and fight. Did > Krishna > say this thinking Arjuna would bomb his enemies with butter? No. Did > Krishna > say this thinking Arjuna would hold hands with his enemies and sing > Kumbaya? > No. In fact, Krishna said his words to Arjuna knowing full well that > Arjuna > would lead him army across the battle field and kill thousands and > thousands > of his own countrymen and kinsmen. This is reality. And now it is the > Dharma > of America to fight this war. We do not fight this war with gladness, but > with a heavy heart for all those who will die. > > May God Bless America > > Max > > > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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