do predictions differ if location changes

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Dear learned astrologers,

 

I will be grateful if you would throw some light on the aspect of:

 

Does prediction for a person and future pertaining to him/her changes if his/her

location of residence changes in that period ?

 

If it does, pls elaborate as to why and how it does.

 

Thanks.

 

Regards to all,

Rajul Kaushik

 

 

 

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Dear Rajul:

 

As far as hindu astrology goes, I think the short answer is "no". I'm not

aware of any significance of a change in residence. In western astrologer,

however, there is a fairly well-developed approach concerning residence

changes. Basically, this involves the concept of angularity. When a

planet is close to the Asc or the MC (the highest point in the chart, often

in the 10th house), it is usually stronger. Planets near these points in

the horoscope will have a disproportionate influence in the personality and

life generally. When a person changes residence, these angular points

change too, about 1* for every 100 km. So for example, a person with

Jupiter in the 8th house (ie. in a non-angular position) in a natal chart

may consider moving to a location in which it is exactly conjunct the MC.

All other things being equal, the native will experience greater Jupiter

influence in their lives, usually greater success. For an interesting

attempt to blend this western idea with hindu astrology, you can refer to

Richard Houck's book Digital Astrology. Also the American vedic astrologer

Dennis Flaherty has an article on his site about using this idea within a

jyotish framework.

 

Chris

 

 

At 09:43 PM 9/23/01 +0200, you wrote:

>Dear learned astrologers,

>

>I will be grateful if you would throw some light on the aspect of:

>

>Does prediction for a person and future pertaining to him/her changes if

his/her location of residence changes in that period ?

>

>If it does, pls elaborate as to why and how it does.

>

>Thanks.

>

>Regards to all,

>Rajul Kaushik

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Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha

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Dear Rajul,

The person doesn't change when the location changes..

The person was still born on a certain date and time,

and this is fixed.. Just because we can move, it

doesn't mean that our world moves with it.

 

Hope this answers your question.

Best wishes, Visti.

 

--- Rajul Kaushik <rajul wrote:

> Dear learned astrologers,

>

> I will be grateful if you would throw some light on

> the aspect of:

>

> Does prediction for a person and future pertaining

> to him/her changes if his/her location of residence

> changes in that period ?

>

> If it does, pls elaborate as to why and how it does.

>

> Thanks.

>

> Regards to all,

> Rajul Kaushik

 

 

 

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Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!

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Dear Rajul,

Prasna is a different matter, and is based on the time

for the question coming to the astrologer. This

question must surface in the mind of the astrologer,

and then the chart is cast giving the answer of the

question to the astrologer.

 

Hence even in the old days, when the messenger brought

the question to the Jyotish, the Jyotish cast the

chart for the time the Jyotish wanted to answer the

question, which is the time the question surfaced in

the mind of the Jyotish and the desire to get an

answer is sparked.

 

You could have thought this out yourself.. The Prasna

is for the answer to the question, not necessarily the

person.

 

You may now ask why the Prasna shouldn't be casted for

the birth of the question. Actually some astrologers

do this, but fact is, that the question must come to

the one who is sincerely going to answer the question,

and then the answer is found.

 

Best wishes, Visti.

 

 

 

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Dear Visti,

 

Your point well understood and appreciated.

 

But then why does horary shastra consider the location where a particular

prasna is raised ? This clearly means that location does matter. Pls correct

me if I am wrong with valid reasoning. Thanks for the understanding.

 

Namaste,

Rajul

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Monday, September 24, 2001 12:53 PM

Re: [gjlist] do predictions differ if location changes

 

 

> Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha

> ---

> Dear Rajul,

> The person doesn't change when the location changes..

> The person was still born on a certain date and time,

> and this is fixed.. Just because we can move, it

> doesn't mean that our world moves with it.

>

> Hope this answers your question.

> Best wishes, Visti.

>

> --- Rajul Kaushik <rajul wrote:

> > Dear learned astrologers,

> >

> > I will be grateful if you would throw some light on

> > the aspect of:

> >

> > Does prediction for a person and future pertaining

> > to him/her changes if his/her location of residence

> > changes in that period ?

> >

> > If it does, pls elaborate as to why and how it does.

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> > Regards to all,

> > Rajul Kaushik

>

>

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Dear Visti, Raul,

 

I've seen numerous examples when the persons' "destiny" (and the types of

experiences they go through)have changed with relocation. Gaugelin work is an

immediate, well researched, proof, but, also, whoever worked with relocation

charts can strongly confirm that. We can theorethize about the reasons (most

likely angular position of benefics-malefics), but if the real-life is "primum

inter pares" proof, as it is, it prevails:whether we can find the theoretical

framework or not.

Regards,

Anna

 

PS: Plus, every location is "good" for something- which probably explains the

reason why some people are draawn to certain locations which expose them to

painful experiences..Of course, transits and dashas will be felt, anyway,,

 

 

 

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Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!

------

Dear Anna,

When you say "destiny changed", do you mean that their

life got better after relocation, or the destined

good/evil didn't come?

 

Offcourse we can advise people to move to locations

more suitable to enhance good effects, and remove bad

effects, that may occur from living in inauspicious

directions and etc.

 

Heres a numerological example; I've lived many times

in houses with the number 3. Not much reduction needed

here.

3 is the number of Gemini, and Gemini is in trines to

my Arudha Lagna(Aqua), hence i've always been well-off

in homes where the adress was 3.

 

Remember to reduce by 12 instead of 9.

 

You can extend this to serial numbers of cars, and

other things.

 

And then theres favorable directions, along with

favorable lagnas.

 

In this mannor numerology works very well with

astrology.

 

Best wishes, Visti.

 

--- "a.r." <anmar wrote:

> Dear Visti, Raul,

>

> I've seen numerous examples when the persons'

> "destiny" (and the types of experiences they go

> through)have changed with relocation. Gaugelin work

> is an immediate, well researched, proof, but, also,

> whoever worked with relocation charts can strongly

> confirm that. We can theorethize about the reasons

> (most likely angular position of benefics-malefics),

> but if the real-life is "primum inter pares" proof,

> as it is, it prevails:whether we can find the

> theoretical framework or not.

> Regards,

> Anna

>

> PS: Plus, every location is "good" for something-

> which probably explains the reason why some people

> are draawn to certain locations which expose them to

> painful experiences..Of course, transits and dashas

> will be felt, anyway,,

>

>

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> removed]

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Jaya Jagannath!

Dear Visti,

Is that the case with gemini( 3) or Guru who rules this number

Where is Guru in your chart?

Best wishes,

Zoran

 

Visti Larsen wrote:

 

> Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!

> ------

> Dear Anna,

> When you say "destiny changed", do you mean that their

> life got better after relocation, or the destined

> good/evil didn't come?

>

> Offcourse we can advise people to move to locations

> more suitable to enhance good effects, and remove bad

> effects, that may occur from living in inauspicious

> directions and etc.

>

> Heres a numerological example; I've lived many times

> in houses with the number 3. Not much reduction needed

> here.

> 3 is the number of Gemini, and Gemini is in trines to

> my Arudha Lagna(Aqua), hence i've always been well-off

> in homes where the adress was 3.

>

> Remember to reduce by 12 instead of 9.

>

> You can extend this to serial numbers of cars, and

> other things.

>

> And then theres favorable directions, along with

> favorable lagnas.

>

> In this mannor numerology works very well with

> astrology.

>

> Best wishes, Visti.

>

> --- "a.r." <anmar wrote:

> > Dear Visti, Raul,

> >

> > I've seen numerous examples when the persons'

> > "destiny" (and the types of experiences they go

> > through)have changed with relocation. Gaugelin work

> > is an immediate, well researched, proof, but, also,

> > whoever worked with relocation charts can strongly

> > confirm that. We can theorethize about the reasons

> > (most likely angular position of benefics-malefics),

> > but if the real-life is "primum inter pares" proof,

> > as it is, it prevails:whether we can find the

> > theoretical framework or not.

> > Regards,

> > Anna

> >

> > PS: Plus, every location is "good" for something-

> > which probably explains the reason why some people

> > are draawn to certain locations which expose them to

> > painful experiences..Of course, transits and dashas

> > will be felt, anyway,,

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

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> >

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Vyam Vysdevaya Namaha!

-----

 

Dear Zoran,

If i reduced by 9 your statement would be logical..

But i reduced by 12.

 

Guru is in 12th from Lagna and 9th from Arudha Lagna.

Sanjay taught this in Cova, regarding cars serial

numbers.

 

Best wishes, Visti.

 

 

--- ahimsa wrote:

> Jaya Jagannath!

> Dear Visti,

> Is that the case with gemini( 3) or Guru who rules

> this number

> Where is Guru in your chart?

> Best wishes,

> Zoran

>

> Visti Larsen wrote:

>

> > Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!

> > ------

> > Dear Anna,

> > When you say "destiny changed", do you mean that

> their

> > life got better after relocation, or the destined

> > good/evil didn't come?

> >

> > Offcourse we can advise people to move to

> locations

> > more suitable to enhance good effects, and remove

> bad

> > effects, that may occur from living in

> inauspicious

> > directions and etc.

> >

> > Heres a numerological example; I've lived many

> times

> > in houses with the number 3. Not much reduction

> needed

> > here.

> > 3 is the number of Gemini, and Gemini is in trines

> to

> > my Arudha Lagna(Aqua), hence i've always been

> well-off

> > in homes where the adress was 3.

> >

> > Remember to reduce by 12 instead of 9.

> >

> > You can extend this to serial numbers of cars, and

> > other things.

> >

> > And then theres favorable directions, along with

> > favorable lagnas.

> >

> > In this mannor numerology works very well with

> > astrology.

> >

> > Best wishes, Visti.

> >

> > --- "a.r." <anmar wrote:

> > > Dear Visti, Raul,

> > >

> > > I've seen numerous examples when the persons'

> > > "destiny" (and the types of experiences they go

> > > through)have changed with relocation. Gaugelin

> work

> > > is an immediate, well researched, proof, but,

> also,

> > > whoever worked with relocation charts can

> strongly

> > > confirm that. We can theorethize about the

> reasons

> > > (most likely angular position of

> benefics-malefics),

> > > but if the real-life is "primum inter pares"

> proof,

> > > as it is, it prevails:whether we can find the

> > > theoretical framework or not.

> > > Regards,

> > > Anna

> > >

> > > PS: Plus, every location is "good" for

> something-

> > > which probably explains the reason why some

> people

> > > are draawn to certain locations which expose

> them to

> > > painful experiences..Of course, transits and

> dashas

> > > will be felt, anyway,,

> > >

> > >

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a.r.

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Monday, September 24, 2001 11:44 PM

Re: [gjlist] do predictions differ if location changes

 

 

 

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Visti Larsen

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Monday, September 24, 2001 2:35 PM

Re: [gjlist] do predictions differ if location changes

 

 

Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!

------

Dear Anna,

When you say "destiny changed", do you mean that their

life got better after relocation, or the destined

good/evil didn't come?- No, I don't mean that: what is destined to happen,

will happen- maybe only to a lesser extent, better surrounding circumstances,

etc..at more favourable location, less "exposed to a "full impact"..

Rather, as you say:

"Offcourse we can advise people to move to locations

more suitable to enhance good effects, and remove bad

effects, that may occur from living in inauspicious

directions and etc."

 

Numerologoical example doesn't seem as a valid proof agains previous postulat-

on the contrary, it simply says that there are so many factors affecting life.

I've learnet that number 3, according to kabbala is number of Jupiter- it seems

like you simply count numbers of natural zodiac?- I would appreciate your

response.

Following this, I should, for ex, either chose 12 (Pisces), or 9(house-which

is Pisces) If I understood you well?

"Heres a numerological example; I've lived many times

in houses with the number 3. Not much reduction needed

here.

3 is the number of Gemini, and Gemini is in trines to

my Arudha Lagna(Aqua), hence i've always been well-off

in homes where the adress was 3."

 

Remember to reduce by 12 instead of 9".- Not sure I get it?

 

"You can extend this to serial numbers of cars, and

other things.-

And then theres favorable directions, along with

favorable lagnas." Ya, I guess so.

 

In this mannor numerology works very well with

astrology.- I am not surprised: aren't "harmonics" in astrology closely

linked to numerology?

 

Best wishes, Visti.

Anna

 

 

 

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a.r.

gjlist

Monday, September 24, 2001 11:44 PM

Re: [gjlist] do predictions differ if location changes

 

 

 

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Visti Larsen

gjlist

Monday, September 24, 2001 2:35 PM

Re: [gjlist] do predictions differ if location changes

 

 

Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!

------

Dear Anna,

When you say "destiny changed", do you mean that their

life got better after relocation, or the destined

good/evil didn't come?- No, I don't mean that: what is destined to happen,

will happen- maybe only to a lesser extent, better surrounding circumstances,

etc..at more favourable location, less "exposed to a "full impact"..

Rather, as you say:

"Offcourse we can advise people to move to locations

more suitable to enhance good effects, and remove bad

effects, that may occur from living in inauspicious

directions and etc."

 

Numerologoical example doesn't seem as a valid proof agains previous postulat-

on the contrary, it simply says that there are so many factors affecting life.

I've learnet that number 3, according to kabbala is number of Jupiter- it seems

like you simply count numbers of natural zodiac?- I would appreciate your

response.

Following this, I should, for ex, either chose 12 (Pisces), or 9(house-which

is Pisces) If I understood you well?

"Heres a numerological example; I've lived many times

in houses with the number 3. Not much reduction needed

here.

3 is the number of Gemini, and Gemini is in trines to

my Arudha Lagna(Aqua), hence i've always been well-off

in homes where the adress was 3."

 

Remember to reduce by 12 instead of 9".- Not sure I get it?

 

"You can extend this to serial numbers of cars, and

other things.-

And then theres favorable directions, along with

favorable lagnas." Ya, I guess so.

 

In this mannor numerology works very well with

astrology.- I am not surprised: aren't "harmonics" in astrology closely

linked to numerology?

 

Best wishes, Visti.

Anna

 

 

 

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Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!

--------

Dear Anna,

Reduce for 12 for Rasi's and 9 for Grahas.. each show

something different, but both are applicable.

 

Best wishes, Visti.

 

--- "a.r." <anmar wrote:

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> a.r.

> gjlist

> Monday, September 24, 2001 11:44 PM

> Re: [gjlist] do predictions differ if

> location changes

>

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> Visti Larsen

> gjlist

> Monday, September 24, 2001 2:35 PM

> Re: [gjlist] do predictions differ if

> location changes

>

>

> Vyam Vysadevaya Namaha!

> ------

> Dear Anna,

> When you say "destiny changed", do you mean that

> their

> life got better after relocation, or the destined

> good/evil didn't come?- No, I don't mean that:

> what is destined to happen, will happen- maybe only

> to a lesser extent, better surrounding

> circumstances, etc..at more favourable location,

> less "exposed to a "full impact"..

> Rather, as you say:

> "Offcourse we can advise people to move to

> locations

> more suitable to enhance good effects, and remove

> bad

> effects, that may occur from living in

> inauspicious

> directions and etc."

>

> Numerologoical example doesn't seem as a valid

> proof agains previous postulat- on the contrary, it

> simply says that there are so many factors affecting

> life. I've learnet that number 3, according to

> kabbala is number of Jupiter- it seems like you

> simply count numbers of natural zodiac?- I would

> appreciate your response.

> Following this, I should, for ex, either chose 12

> (Pisces), or 9(house-which is Pisces) If I

> understood you well?

> "Heres a numerological example; I've lived many

> times

> in houses with the number 3. Not much reduction

> needed

> here.

> 3 is the number of Gemini, and Gemini is in trines

> to

> my Arudha Lagna(Aqua), hence i've always been

> well-off

> in homes where the adress was 3."

>

> Remember to reduce by 12 instead of 9".- Not sure

> I get it?

>

> "You can extend this to serial numbers of cars,

> and

> other things.-

> And then theres favorable directions, along with

> favorable lagnas." Ya, I guess so.

>

> In this mannor numerology works very well with

> astrology.- I am not surprised: aren't

> "harmonics" in astrology closely linked to

> numerology?

>

> Best wishes, Visti.

> Anna

>

>

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> removed]

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