Guest guest Posted September 16, 2001 Report Share Posted September 16, 2001 Krshna taught Arjuna that it's sometimes necessary to fight for what's right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2001 Report Share Posted September 16, 2001 >Krshna taught Arjuna that it's sometimes necessary to fight for what's >right. > Dear Wendy, Not sometimes, but always fight for what is right.That is what Krishna taught Arjuna. Manoj _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2001 Report Share Posted September 17, 2001 Dear Manoj & Wendy, This is a misintepretation. Krishna and Arjuna are symbolic. Arjuna represents Prajna , the discriminative intellect and Krishna, the regal Self. In a world witnessing the Clash of perspectives and the Clash of Civilizations, please do not fight. One man's meat is another man's poison. So Good and Evil are relative terms. Laden wants to bring the whole world under the sanity of Islam and under the Caliphate rule. His perspective is different from that of Bush's. His "good" and "evil" are different. The Communist perspective, the Islamic perspective, the Christian perspective, the Hindu perspective - we have enough perspectives anyway. They are perspectives, not Truth ! Only Universal Love can redeem this world. It is a misunderstanding. Love ! Fighting for what is right depends on your perspective. Didnt Shakespeare say " There is no such things as good and bad but thinking makes it so " ? Krisha, Jesus, Allah - all represent Universal Love.Fighting is against the spirit of Religion and Philosophy. Terrorism is against Religion. Regards, G Kumar www.zodiaccomputers.com Manoj Pathak wrote: > >Krshna taught Arjuna that it's sometimes necessary to fight for what's > >right. > > > Dear Wendy, > > Not sometimes, but always fight for what is right.That is what Krishna > taught Arjuna. > > Manoj > > _______________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2001 Report Share Posted September 17, 2001 hare krishna Krishna is not 'symbolic'. He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead..please read Srila Prabhupada's books, especially Bhagavad Gita As It is. In Krishna Consciousness Stavavali Devi Dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2001 Report Share Posted September 17, 2001 gjlist, "Manoj Pathak" <manojpathak@h...> wrote: > >Krshna taught Arjuna that it's sometimes necessary to fight for what's > >right. > > > Dear Wendy, > > Not sometimes, but always fight for what is right.That is what Krishna > taught Arjuna. DUTY OF WARRIOR regards, Venkat > > Manoj > > _______________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2001 Report Share Posted September 17, 2001 Zodiac wrote: > In a world witnessing the Clash of perspectives and the Clash of > Civilizations, please do not fight. Dear Kumar, Some 50 odd years ago, W.C. churchill, rather cynically - considering what the British govt. perpetrated in palestina - appealed : "I appeal to the jews and the Arabs to settle their differences in true christian spirit!" ...... > Laden wants to bring the whole world under the sanity of Islam and under the > Caliphate rule. His perspective is different from that of Bush's. His "good" > and "evil" are different. Just to be objective: what is the Calphate rule? The first "legitimate" successors of Mohammed, the first Caliphs, were murdered by their own kith and kin, which led to the division of sects, Sunni ans Shia. The later Caliphs like haroun al rashid were most liberal rulers, who tolerated other serious religions. Such practices as purdah for women were not known. In fact learned women were respected, "slaves" could become ministers. The Moors who followed and lived in italy and spain were also tolerant and wise. But for these people many sciences would have died in the west, especially astronomy and chemistry. they saved europe from the consequences of the "dark ages". There is the other type of Islam, as practiced by Mohammed of Ghor, who ravished India, destroyed the gret temple of Somnath.... Islam has two faces: babar, humayun, akbar- and M of Ghazni, Timur and Aurangzeb. What is bin Laden fighting for? Extremism and Sharia in its narrow meaning, or just a chance for the moslem world? Does he insist on purdah for his female population? We do not know. Seeing him on TV I don´t see the mad or even fanatic criminal! He speaks slow and collected, no raving. He states "facts" like "The US is stealing our oil.", "The us is spoiling our morals and ideals!" He is an idealist, who does not see the reality: The world has benefitted from the US in technology, to a certain limited extent in culture. but in social behaviour etc. the US had a bad influence. On the other hand, culture in the Arab states had been destroyed to a large extent by their own rulers, sexual perversity was rampant. I can give any number of actual instances for this, but the following arab "proverb" will illustrate: "Women for the sake of children, boys for pleasure, melons for sheer delight!" The Communist perspective, the Islamic perspective, the Christian perspective, > the Hindu perspective - we have enough perspectives anyway. They are > perspectives, not Truth ! > > Only Universal Love can redeem this world. It is a misunderstanding. Love ! Yes! Also to what you say further. Regards Mani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2001 Report Share Posted September 17, 2001 Dear Mr. G. Kumar, If Krishna and Arjuna aqre misinterpretation then what is the truth. You need to recheck the basics. You can always define a thing anyway by choosing right words but then truth does not change. Read Yatharth Geeta. Yes, I agree Good and Bad are relative terms. Manoj >Zodiac <zodiac >gjlist >gjlist >Re: [gjlist] Dharma >Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:10:04 +0530 > >Dear Manoj & Wendy, > >This is a misintepretation. > >Krishna and Arjuna are symbolic. Arjuna represents Prajna , the >discriminative >intellect and Krishna, the regal Self. > >In a world witnessing the Clash of perspectives and the Clash of >Civilizations, please do not fight. > >One man's meat is another man's poison. So Good and Evil are relative >terms. >Laden wants to bring the whole world under the sanity of Islam and under >the >Caliphate rule. His perspective is different from that of Bush's. His >"good" >and "evil" are different. > >The Communist perspective, the Islamic perspective, the Christian >perspective, >the Hindu perspective - we have enough perspectives anyway. They are >perspectives, not Truth ! > >Only Universal Love can redeem this world. It is a misunderstanding. Love ! > >Fighting for what is right depends on your perspective. Didnt Shakespeare >say >" There is no such things as good and bad but thinking makes it so " ? > >Krisha, Jesus, Allah - all represent Universal Love.Fighting is against the >spirit of Religion and Philosophy. Terrorism is against Religion. > >Regards, > >G Kumar >www.zodiaccomputers.com > > >Manoj Pathak wrote: > > > >Krshna taught Arjuna that it's sometimes necessary to fight for what's > > >right. > > > > > Dear Wendy, > > > > Not sometimes, but always fight for what is right.That is what Krishna > > taught Arjuna. > > > > Manoj > > > > _______________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > >gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > _______________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2001 Report Share Posted September 17, 2001 Dear Manoj, What is right and what is wrong is an individual thinking and perception. A thing which is considered right in a country, during a particular time and in a particular religion may not be considred as right in all parts of the world, by all religions and by all individuals. A "Right" or "Wrong" preached by Lord Krishna to Arjuna was not even applicable and meant to all those individuals lived in that time. A person's meat is poison for somebody else. You will appreciate the Desh, Kala and Patra. Thank you. PS. Though you addressed the letter to Wendy, i was not able to resist my temptation to express my views in general without knowing the context. once again thank u. regards, CS Ravindramani. Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews./fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2001 Report Share Posted September 18, 2001 G. Kumar Wrote: >>>In a world witnessing the Clash of perspectives and the Clash of Civilizations, please do not fight. (snip) Only Universal Love can redeem this world. It is a misunderstanding. Love ! Fighting for what is right depends on your perspective. Didnt Shakespeare say " There is no such things as good and bad but thinking makes it so " ?<<< The philosophy behind your words is entirely agreed upon, but sometimes disputes are unavoidable. I saw a very disturbing interview of Maharishi (some time ago) on 60 minutes. The interviewer was offensive beyond belief. His "intention" from the start was to discredit Maharishi and the whole Vedic ethos. So confrontational was this interviewer that Maharishi's rage spilled over. I saw my Guru "lose the plot" (so to speak) before my very eyes. He shouted things like "Australia is a slave to Britain" and other things that I wouldn't believe had I not seen it for myself...I was devestated! The point is G.K. that anyone can be goaded to retaliate, and if an enlightened Guru can lose his cool under such circumstances, what to speak of the rest of us. Regards, Wendy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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