Guest guest Posted September 15, 2001 Report Share Posted September 15, 2001 A letter just written to the list asked “How many citizens of the US are aware of the policies of the US Government”. Two things strike me. 1. I would guess that the author of this statement is equally aware of his or her own governments policies…yet, again, I find it fascinating how everyone is so eager to single out one entity (as if it is any better or worse). I would venture a guess to say that no one on this list is truly aware of their government’s policies. 2. So much easier to blame others for everything then take personal accountability. I said before this attack was on Freedom and peace everywhere. It is also a reflection of the hatred inside of each of us (I am talking about inside each of us personally, not inside of the governments and multinational’s…but inside of each of us….and those who make up the government’s and multinational’s)(a side note on my side note to those who like to blame governments and multinationals for pretty much everything…it is us that make up those governments and multinationals…hating or blaming them is only hating and blaming yourself and your neighboor) If you want to believe that the US is a piece of dog sh@# <sh@%23> or the US government is…fine, I believe in your right (protected here in the US) of Free Speech. Mani, I cry because I am heartbroken for many reason’s. The one I want to talk about now is because of the mirror it shined on our lives. The attack that occurred on 9-11-01 was not on the “US” (I put the US in quotes because the US and every “country” is as artificial to the universe as the country you spoke about earlier in the week)…it was mirror provided to every being on the planet showing us how far we have come…or not. I cry because it is a reflection of each of us. A reflection of how much hate all of us still hold. A reflection of how much anger everyone still has…a reflection that while enlightenment for the planet is coming…it may not be tomorrow. To make it more personal, I cry cuz of the hate I still carry. The anger I still carry. How far I am from enlightenment. I still have a lot of work to do. Most messages on this list has shown we all have a lot of work to do. Fate or not, I am a being with God given emotions and a heart, and mine breaks at the senseless killing Billions of people do everyday (including myself) with guns, knives, thoughts or looks………at the senseless hatred almost everyone in the world (including myself) holds deep in their beings. Look deep in your heart and feel the hatred…feel the anger…if you plan on being enlightened, it is one of the many things to be felt Scott MacDonald scottmd1 <scottmd1 248.212.7588 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2001 Report Share Posted September 15, 2001 Here U go. Who created Bin Laden? FBI and CIA trained him. What is the role of US in Kashmir. US used Pak as puppet in Afganistan. Mean time Pak turned 75% of resources to Kashmiri Terrorists. US did not bother. What is the ultimate role of US. It wants to see Kashmir as Independent Country. So that It can establish a army base on the mountains. So that It can control the upcoming super powers INDIA and China. It wants BIG respect and free oil et al.. The list is countably *infinite*. Still, I feel sad about the attacks on WTC. It is the attack on the world. But I am asking to *STOP* double faced role. See the kids of Iraq. ( dont blame Saddam here). Just distinguish People from Politics. My friend lost a cousin and friend in Belgrade. I lost my classmate in WTC. How many of us are worried abt the innocents killed by NATO. Peace brotha! Regards, Venkat > A letter just written to the list asked "How many citizens of the US are > aware of the policies of the US Government". > > Two things strike me. > > 1. I would guess that the author of this statement is equally aware of his > or her own governments policies…yet, again, I find it fascinating how > everyone is so eager to single out one entity (as if it is any better or > worse). I would venture a guess to say that no one on this list is truly > aware of their government's policies. > 2. So much easier to blame others for everything then take personal > accountability. I said before this attack was on Freedom and peace > everywhere. It is also a reflection of the hatred inside of each of us (I > am talking about inside each of us personally, not inside of the governments > and multinational's…but inside of each of us….and those who make up the > government's and multinational's)(a side note on my side note to those who > like to blame governments and multinationals for pretty much everything…it > is us that make up those governments and multinationals…hating or blaming > them is only hating and blaming yourself and your neighboor) > > If you want to believe that the US is a piece of dog sh@# <sh@%23> > or the US government is…fine, I believe in your right (protected here in the > US) of Free Speech. > > Mani, I cry because I am heartbroken for many reason's. The one I want to > talk about now is because of the mirror it shined on our lives. The attack > that occurred on 9-11-01 was not on the "US" (I put the US in quotes because > the US and every "country" is as artificial to the universe as the country > you spoke about earlier in the week)…it was mirror provided to every being > on the planet showing us how far we have come…or not. > > I cry because it is a reflection of each of us. A reflection of how much > hate all of us still hold. A reflection of how much anger everyone still > has…a reflection that while enlightenment for the planet is coming… it may > not be tomorrow. > > To make it more personal, I cry cuz of the hate I still carry. The anger I > still carry. How far I am from enlightenment. > > I still have a lot of work to do. Most messages on this list has shown we > all have a lot of work to do. > > Fate or not, I am a being with God given emotions and a heart, and mine > breaks at the senseless killing Billions of people do everyday (including > myself) with guns, knives, thoughts or looks………at the senseless hatred > almost everyone in the world (including myself) holds deep in their beings. > > Look deep in your heart and feel the hatred…feel the anger…if you plan on > being enlightened, it is one of the many things to be felt > > Scott MacDonald > scottmd1@c... <scottmd1@c...> > 248.212.7588 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2001 Report Share Posted September 16, 2001 Amen. Never surrender control to politicians. Never forsake your country's interest or forget that eternal vigilance is the price of freedom Curtis At 05:15 AM 9/16/01 +0000, you wrote: >Here U go. >Who created Bin Laden? >FBI and CIA trained him. >What is the role of US in Kashmir. >US used Pak as puppet in Afganistan. Mean time Pak turned 75% of >resources to Kashmiri Terrorists. US did not bother. What is the >ultimate role of US. It wants to see Kashmir as Independent Country. >So that It can establish a army base on the mountains. So that It can >control the upcoming super powers INDIA and China. It wants BIG >respect and free oil et al.. The list is countably *infinite*. >Still, I feel sad about the attacks on WTC. It is the attack on the >world. But I am asking to *STOP* double faced role. See the kids of >Iraq. ( dont blame Saddam here). Just distinguish People from >Politics. My friend lost a cousin and friend in Belgrade. I lost my >classmate in WTC. >How many of us are worried abt the innocents killed by NATO. > >Peace brotha! > >Regards, Venkat > > > > > > A letter just written to the list asked "How many citizens of the >US are > > aware of the policies of the US Government". > > > > Two things strike me. > > > > 1. I would guess that the author of this statement is equally >aware of his > > or her own governments policies…yet, again, I find it fascinating >how > > everyone is so eager to single out one entity (as if it is any >better or > > worse). I would venture a guess to say that no one on this list is >truly > > aware of their government's policies. > > 2. So much easier to blame others for everything then take >personal > > accountability. I said before this attack was on Freedom and peace > > everywhere. It is also a reflection of the hatred inside of each >of us (I > > am talking about inside each of us personally, not inside of the >governments > > and multinational's…but inside of each of us….and those who make up >the > > government's and multinational's)(a side note on my side note to >those who > > like to blame governments and multinationals for pretty much >everything…it > > is us that make up those governments and multinationals…hating or >blaming > > them is only hating and blaming yourself and your neighboor) > > > > If you want to believe that the US is a piece of dog sh@# ><sh@%23> > > or the US government is…fine, I believe in your right (protected >here in the > > US) of Free Speech. > > > > Mani, I cry because I am heartbroken for many reason's. The one I >want to > > talk about now is because of the mirror it shined on our lives. >The attack > > that occurred on 9-11-01 was not on the "US" (I put the US in >quotes because > > the US and every "country" is as artificial to the universe as the >country > > you spoke about earlier in the week)…it was mirror provided to >every being > > on the planet showing us how far we have come…or not. > > > > I cry because it is a reflection of each of us. A reflection of >how much > > hate all of us still hold. A reflection of how much anger everyone >still > > has…a reflection that while enlightenment for the planet is coming… >it may > > not be tomorrow. > > > > To make it more personal, I cry cuz of the hate I still carry. The >anger I > > still carry. How far I am from enlightenment. > > > > I still have a lot of work to do. Most messages on this list has >shown we > > all have a lot of work to do. > > > > Fate or not, I am a being with God given emotions and a heart, and >mine > > breaks at the senseless killing Billions of people do everyday >(including > > myself) with guns, knives, thoughts or looks………at the senseless >hatred > > almost everyone in the world (including myself) holds deep in their >beings. > > > > Look deep in your heart and feel the hatred…feel the anger…if you >plan on > > being enlightened, it is one of the many things to be felt > > > > Scott MacDonald > > scottmd1@c... <scottmd1@c...> > > 248.212.7588 > > > > > > > > > > > >gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to Get Your FREE Astrological Newsletter Love, Money, Health, Spirituality, News, and More! Spiritual_Material_Astrology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2001 Report Share Posted September 16, 2001 Dear Scott, You wrote... ...."I cry because it is a reflection of each of us. A reflection of how much hate all of us still hold. A reflection of how much anger everyone still has...a reflection that while enlightenment for the planet is coming...it may not be tomorrow. To make it more personal, I cry cuz of the hate I still carry. The anger I still carry. How far I am from enlightenment".... It's beautiful that what has happened has allowed you and many to look deeper for the why. I so honor and respect all of those who have given their lives that all of us can look to these deeper issues of hate... including Self-hate... the ways in which we think about and treat our own sweet Self, and the ways we try to inflate the ego, to be right, to please, the deception, using others in a myriads of ways to not feel our deepest fear, terror, rage, and many times this is disguised with loving others...all of this is so often drenched with repressed self-hatred. After all, is it not all deplorable? I believe that when we are willing to feel this one whenever it comes up or the impulse to cover it or act out and allow it to burn then there will be no need to project it outwardly and the Truth will be revealed. Sincerely, Theresa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2001 Report Share Posted September 16, 2001 In a message dated 9/16/2001 1:17:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, venkateshwara_reddy writes: << But I am asking to *STOP* double faced role. See the kids of Iraq. ( dont blame Saddam here). Just distinguish People from Politics. >> What you wrote is correct but where will you find a straight faced politician. it is an irony that no politician, especially in power, can speak the truth and live to rule. American Constitution gaurantees freedom of speech. Many may not agree but the recent events, in which we have all suffered, has shown that don't be too sure.As a non-white you could be looked upon as some one responsible for the recent tragedy. Efforts by the government,especially our New York Mayor Guliani, not to tolerate these kinds of act have not given any confidence to the ethnics. There is talk at national level to checklist seperately passengers boarding flights with different ethnicity. The Attorney-General Ashcroft has denied that it will be done but it is again the talk of a politician.Belonging to ethnic Indian group of Sikhs we have already felt the brunt of some local whites for whom turban of a Sikh is the same as that of Bin Laden and other Arabs!! We are being targeted along with Muslims. Despite assurances from Govt., incidents have been down played by the media bacause the newspapers and TV stations are controlled vastly by a single group of people and the authourities cannot go against that one minority group which controls majority of US wealth. With local New York elections in process and some ethnics in the fray,it is being looked upon as another way to let them know that you may be an American Citizen and have constitutional rights but don't think of being a law-maker.Or why hasn't a Blackman ever become an American President ? Some may say that they have never tried ! But noone will tell that the process is so cumbersome that those who tried were shelved out in initial stages or faced the barrel of a gun!! BUT LET ME SAY THAT DESPITE EVERYTHING 90% AMERICAN WHITE ARE THE BEST !! 10 % COMPRISES MOSTLY OF POLITICIANS WHOSE TONE WILL CHANGE ACCORDING TO CIRCUMSTANCES. Love and Peace Kirpall Singh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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