Right Ear on Father In Law's Chart

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Dear IIona, Wendy, Visti and all,

 

Just checked with my father in law to see in which ear he is currently

experiencing deafness. It is his right ear. This happened on May 12th or 13th -

dashas were Jupiter/Rahu/Ketu/Mars. If we take the third house as karaka for his

right ear, his chart has Saturn ruling the 3rd house (and the 2nd). Saturn

positioned in the eighth with debilitated Mars. Mars and Saturn are in a Mercury

ruled Nakshatra. And Mars and Saturn are in exact conjunction, 19 degrees 9'.

 

In this Aquarius third house, rasi dristi would also add aspect from Mars via

Aries. Also, Aquarius is co-ruled by Rahu and Saturn, and Rahu again in the

first house. If we took the 2nd house as indicator, Mars aspects by graha

dristi. Saturn and Jupiter are both in the houses of great enemies.

 

I hope this timing helps. It's an interesting chart with this currently going on

with respect to Jupiter Mahadasha and physical health, Jupiter's possible role

in this. Of course, all through this he has also been in Rahu bhukti, and Rahu

in first house.

 

A novice question:

 

When we look for ownership of the dual owned rasis (I know there is debate as to

which rasis Rahu and Ketu co-own. In this case if we were to say Rahu and Saturn

co-own Aquarius) I thought we would say Saturn would be ruler in this chart as

He is in the 8th with Mars and Rahu is alone in the first. Does the fact that

Mars is an enemy of Saturn and Mars debilitated here have ANY influence on this

ownership of Aquarius?

 

Best regards,

Patrice

 

 

 

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In a message dated 8/27/2001 10:24:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

patrice.curry writes:

 

 

> When we look for ownership of the dual owned rasis (I know there is debate

> as to which rasis Rahu and Ketu co-own. In this case if we were to say Rahu

> and Saturn co-own Aquarius) I thought we would say Saturn would be ruler in

> this chart as He is in the 8th with Mars and Rahu is alone in the first.

> Does the fact that Mars is an enemy of Saturn and Mars debilitated here

> have ANY influence on this ownership of Aquarius?

>

 

Hi, Patrice,

 

I think, based on 2 books here by Sanjay Rath, Saturn wins because of

the conjunctions, good or bad. (Found the books accurate in charts I tested,

but hard; decided to forgo studying til life less stressful & complicated,

can't do 'em justice)

Good luck,

Namaste,

Robin

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Patrice,

 

The question of whether Saturn or Rahu have ultimate rulership of Aquarius, or

whether Mars or Ketu have rulership over Scorpio is a misconception perpetuated

by some modern authors. The fact is that Saturn rules Aquarius and Mars rules

Scorpio. The co-rulerships of Rahu and Ketu are secondary and can never overrule

the ownership of the major planets (Saturn and Mars). Scripture states that Rahu

behaves like Saturn and Ketu behaves like Mars, but this is in a very general

sense due to their relationship as co-lords....but they're always the co-lords,

never the primary lord.

 

So if one is in a dasa of Rahu, for instance, one would consider the house for

which he is co-ruler; e.g., in my horoscope Rahu mahadasa brought a major change

in regard to family...Aquarius owns 2nd house of family of which Rahu is a

co-ruler. Rahu in kendra can bring sudden major life-changes. I was adopted

during Rahu/Saturn dasa...a major change in family I would say.

 

So in this way Rahu's connection with Aquarius is appropriate, but to question

who (between planets or nodes) has legitimate rulership of a sign is ridiculous.

 

Rgds, Wendy

 

You Wrote:

A novice question:

 

When we look for ownership of the dual owned rasis (I know there is debate as

to which rasis Rahu and Ketu co-own. In this case if we were to say Rahu and

Saturn co-own Aquarius) I thought we would say Saturn would be ruler in this

chart as He is in the 8th with Mars and Rahu is alone in the first. Does the

fact that Mars is an enemy of Saturn and Mars debilitated here have ANY

influence on this ownership of Aquarius?

 

Best regards,

Patrice

 

 

 

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Dear Robin,

 

 

>>> I think, based on 2 books here by Sanjay Rath, Saturn wins because

of

the conjunctions, good or bad. (Found the books accurate in charts I

tested,

but hard; decided to forgo studying til life less stressful & complicated,

can't do 'em justice)

 

Thanks for your response here, Robin. I've got to get my books found and

unpacked. I have Sanjay's books and very much appreciate your clearing this

up before I can get to them.

 

Hope your days lose the stress and you can enjoy some of this late summer

and early fall. I'm sorry to hear of all the trauma with and involving your

son. May it all improve quickly. Wishing you both joy.

 

Kind regards,

Patrice

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In a message dated 8/29/2001 2:40:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

wenvas writes:

 

 

> When we look for ownership of the dual owned rasis (I know there is debate

> as to which rasis Rahu and Ketu co-own. In this case if we were to say Rahu

> and Saturn co-own Aquarius) I thought we would say Saturn would be ruler in

> this chart as He is in the 8th with Mars and Rahu is alone in the first.

> Does the fact that Mars is an enemy of Saturn and Mars debilitated here

> have ANY influence on this ownership of Aquarius?

>

> Best regards,

> Patrice

>

>

 

Hi, Everyone,

 

When I said in that case Saturn would be ruler, I assumed this was about

Jaimini type of astrology and we were looking at rasi grishti and which would

be the ruler in that case. This is, in my opinion, pretty advanced stuff--I

looked into it, saw some really cool things but it also gave me a headache, a

good bit out of my league just yet; decided to reserve this part of the study

for when I can really give it justice (study a lot of charts). There is so

much to learn of the basics, as Wendy says!

I really recommend James Braha's new book to help with basics. It

answers some questions, and also raises some new ones I intend to e-mail and

ask him about as soon as my life settles down so I can think. I will share

the Qs & As (assuming there will be As--wrote James Braha once before, & he

sent autographed books with his answer, so I'm hopeful of the As) if anyone's

interested. It seems to me when he knows something, he knows it. He did

mention another astrologer talking about Arudha Lagna by the

description--called it karakamsa (which is different from Arudha Lagna, as

far as I know, it's the navamsa of the atmakaraka); so that was an error,

but he never said he used this, he just said the other astrologer made

accurate predictions from the technique.

I should have noticed the word novice and said save the other stuff

for later--it is fun to try other techiques, but if you don't have the basics

all in your head, it makes the head ache. Jaimini is like extreme

fine-tuning. I was fascinated but it drove home to me to get the basics down

firmly in your mind, and to see what works and what doesn't for you. If you

mix and match you can get lost. Or at least that is my experience; Wendy has

far more experience than I do and experience counts!

I like what Wendy said about checking out Rahu as co-owner of Aquarius

(and that may mean Ketu as co-ruler of Scorpio) during dasas.

Love you guys,

Robin

 

 

 

 

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Dear Wendy and Robin,

 

Wendy, I didn't catch your response to this yesterday when I ran through the

emails in a hurry to respond while running out the door. (Co-rulership with

Rahu and Ketu)

 

Thank you both for all your attention on this. When I asked the question, I

didn't realize this was one of those areas that gets these debates on

techniques going, which I actually try to avoid. I completely appreciate

everyone's views on this.

 

As someone who has been studying only about 2 years, and who has benefited

so much from all the gracious help of those on this list, I can only say I

am genuinely and continually grateful for all direction and help offered.

 

Namaste,

Patrice