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Von: Ilona Hellmann <HellmannC200>

Datum: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 17:02:01 +0200

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Dear Visti, dear Wendy hence I´m also studying charts in regards of Jupiter

and deafness, I looked for some of dead persons, because there could be no

further diseases. All has just happen. So, here are the datas of 4 famous

people, one of them was deaf, one was nearly completely blind, one was blind

and deaf and one had no problems with hearing and seing, so far as I am

informed.

Until now I would also agree that in cases of deafness jupiter must be

afflicted and connected with the ascendant in some way. But hence jupiter

indicates luck, there will be an affliction in many other cases of disease

too. The question for me is now: how can we see deafness? Perhaps this is -

among special houses, degrees and so on- also a thing of the afflicting

planets.

Could it be saturn for example, to cause deafness and the sun - as a light

- to indicate blindness? - among others of course.

 

What`s your view in regard of jupiter and deafness in the following 4

cases?

 

1.) nov 12 1833 3:00 AM (GJ) 30E15 59N55 AC 12° virgo

2.) march 2 1824 10:00 AM (GJ) 16E19 49N52 AC 19° taurus

3.) june 27 1880 16:00 PM (GJ) 87W42 34N44 AC 2° scorpio

4.) mar 31 1685 9:38 AM (GJ) 10E19 50N59 AC 16° gemini

 

 

In Susan`s family there are no artistic abilities, so far as I know. The

parents are simple persons and the two sisters have some difficulties at

school. Nevertheless I would say that Susan is outstanding in some way, may

be it`s a question of teachers and education that her life is somehow

restricted. As I said earlier, Susan is very energetic.

 

Wendy, do you perhaps remember the exact day of the man`s (1948) rupture of

tympanun?

 

regards, Ilona

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Dear Ilona, Visti et al,

 

Manoj made a valid point regarding the additional physiology/disease attributed

to Jupiter...of course, common sense dictates that one not consider Jupiter in

isolation (as said in earlier post)...just as one doesn't consider Jupiter's

role as significator of children without also considering 5th house and it's

lord, or his role as significator of wealth without also considering 2nd house

and it's lord, or his role as significator of religion without also considering

9th house and it's lord...this goes without saying!!

 

So in regards to physiology/disease the list would (IMHO) be something like

this:

 

liver/gallbladder/spleen/naval/kidney: 5th house / 5th lord / Jupiter

 

ears/physical development: 1st (2/3 ears ?) house / lord / Jupiter

 

back/waist: 6th house / 6th lord / Jupiter

 

palate/throat: 2nd house / 2nd lord / Jupiter

 

Consideration of prikriti/vrikriti is also an important element..ear problems

(mucous, etc) is more common in children than in adults...this is often the

result of excess kapha...Jupiter is a kapha planet and kapha is strongest during

childhood.

 

In regards to the timing of 1948 native's deafness (L.ear) the closest I can

ascertain is aprox. 2mths after 21st b'day. But the memory of this date is

unreliable...could have been this, could have been that, is about as positive as

this native gets.

 

He was in prison at the time of 21st birthday and still there when mastoid burst

(about 2mths later, he thinks). He was treated in prison hospital.

BTW he's not the negative criminal type...he stole a motorbike and went in hot

pursuit (illegally crossing the South African border) of the object of his love

and affection. He was caught (without passport etc) and sentenced to a prison

term. He and his lady love did eventually get married but it ended in divorce.

 

Rgds, Wendy

 

You Wrote:

 

>>Dear Visti, dear Wendy hence I´m also studying charts in regards of Jupiter

and deafness, I looked for some of dead persons, because there could be no

further diseases. All has just happen. So, here are the datas of 4 famous

people, one of them was deaf, one was nearly completely blind, one was blind

and deaf and one had no problems with hearing and seing, so far as I am

informed.

Until now I would also agree that in cases of deafness jupiter must be

afflicted and connected with the ascendant in some way. But hence jupiter

indicates luck, there will be an affliction in many other cases of disease

too. The question for me is now: how can we see deafness? Perhaps this is -

among special houses, degrees and so on- also a thing of the afflicting

planets.

Could it be saturn for example, to cause deafness and the sun - as a light

- to indicate blindness? - among others of course.

 

>snip<

 

Wendy, do you perhaps remember the exact day of the man`s (1948) rupture of

tympanun?

 

regards, Ilona<<

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear IIona, Wendy, Visti and All,

 

Kind of an interesting look at my father in law's chart right now with this

respect to Jupiter and hearing. He's having a terrible time with one ear in

particular for the past few months. And previously he had suffered loss of

hearing due to his time flying planes in WWII in both ears.

 

Currently though, he went into the hospital emergency room for something not

related to his ears, and he commented on his ear feeling uncomfortable. The

nurse in an effort to help him, 'scraped' his ear or something like this,

was too rough, and this instead has caused many problems since in this ear,

and loss of hearing temporarily. But still this complete loss has been

consistent now for a few months. All through his Jupiter/Rahu/Jupiter, if

not even beginning in Jupiter/Rahu/Rahu (I will try to find out the exact

date and definitely ask which ear is the one suffering complete deafness

currently). He also just received new hearing aids during this time. (Of

course with the one ear he isn't able to use the new aid yet.)

 

His dasas currently are Jupiter/Rahu.

 

His Rashi Lagna is Sag, with Jupiter in the 6th house in Taurus. Rahu is

also located in Lagna. Venus is in his 11th house in Libra. With Sag Lagna,

2nd and 3rd house are both Saturn ruled, and Saturn sits in his 8th house

with debilitated Mars in Cancer.

 

Birth info:

 

October 1, 1917, 12:50 AM, Chico, CA, USA

 

Best regards,

Patrice

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