Medical Quiz

[Guest guest]

Dear Wendy,

it`s your good right to differ in regard of the ear-ruling houses. You may

even differ in other things too. Until now nobody gave the right diagnosis,

so let`s examine further horoscopes as I suggested - and: we`ll see. It is

not to spread wrong explanations, why I am here on this list neither it is

to pass the time. My intent is to reach some clearness in regards of medical

astrology. Let`s proof it and afterwards we`llkeep the best. OK?

Regards, Ilona

[Guest guest]

Dear Robin

A teacher of mine once said " That everything in nature is medicine

to someone, But nothing in nature is medicine to everyone". And there is

always an exception to the rule. In my experience only one out of ten

women are progesterone deficient and estrogen dominant, which makes you

the exception. You are absolutely right, every women should get a blood

test to be sure, so that they can make an educated choice. And Im a firm

believer if it isn't broke don't fix it! But I strongly suggest that if

your going to use birth control pills and estrogen replacement therapy

that you monitor it closely! check your self daily for cyst and see your

doctor often.

You see Robin, the women in this country (USA) suffer worse symptoms

of menopause the any other country in the world. We have more cancer,

cardiovascular disease, arthritis. diabetes. so on, and so on, We have

rich peoples diseases! I highly suspect that men in other countries

don't even notice a hormone imbalance. I saw a TV program about a year

ago that said that the average couple between 20 & 30 years of age are

losing their sex drive because of the animal hormones in the meat.

If you have loved one's with cancer I suggest you have them take a

strong look at MGN-3 by Lane Labs. You can buy it on-line. I see it

getting pretty good results where I work. Its not not cheap! but it

would be if it wasn't getting good results. I believe it's a good idea

for everybody to go through a bottle once a year.

As for myself about a year and a half ago I started having Night

sweats, insomnia, cloudy thinking, and memory loss and thinking that I

might be having symptomatic pains for my wife with menopause. After six

months of this it was quite obvious that this was my own. I never had

high testosterone to began with, so as I have gotten older, even lower

testosterone has manifested as a hormone imbalance. In trying to correct

it, it just created anger in me, which I am unaccustomed to. I still

take a lot of herbs and vitamins and ware a 30 carat citrine as a

pendent which seems to ground me the most, but for the most part I just

grin and bare it! I know this too will pass! It all does you know.

Unfortunately it has also manifested as a root chakra problem,

hemorrhoids, constipation, leg problems, no sex drive. and so on. Small

things to live with, since high testosterone causes prostate cancer.

The thing is Robin we all die! It's only a matter of how and when.

So the only real goal in life is to strengthening your relationship with

our creator! its the only thing your taking with you. Cut out as much

suffering as you can, be a good example to your kids, because they don't

listen to what you say unless your actions can back it up. Be of

services to humanity, remain unattached, And Feel grateful. Piece of

cake uh!

Bless You my friend ......... Noel

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Ilona,

 

My apologies if my abrupt manner of speaking offended you, however the

(traditional) significations of the houses are not laid down by myself but by

the ancient Rishis themselves.

 

As I've not read any of the modern authors save Braha and Frawley I can't

comment much on the different approaches, significations, etc., put forward by

them...I do believe (very strongly) however that one should adhere to the

traditional teachings, otherwise the whole foundation crumbles...

 

It's commendable that you're using jyotish in conjunction with your other

diagnostic tools. I wonder though if you wouldn't care to look at the chart

again with the focus on the 2nd house, it's lord, and aspects to them....

 

Considering that the 2nd (according to tradition) governs organs of face etc.,

and considering the affliction to both 2nd house and it's lord (Jupiter)

wouldn't it be logical to assume that the Rishi's are right. Because I hastily

assumed blindness (due to the aspect of Sun on a very afflicted 2nd house) it

would be wrong to assume that the traditional rules governing the houses are not

100% correct.

 

Astrologers are fallible...not jyotish!

 

My defensive reply to your previous post was not in defence of myself but in

defence of Jyotish. I'm sure you'll agree with me that your astrological

diagnosis was far removed from traditional methods. So please accept my words in

the spirit they were given and let's get on with the business of understanding

jyotish.

 

Best Regards,

Wendy

 

Regards,

Wendy

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Wendy,

I just try to understand you. Let me ( once again) reply with an example of

homeopathy. Also here exist many diferrent trends. There is for example a

very orthodox line, not negatively spoken. But this group of really good

experienced ( like you!) doctors is always very afraid of those influences

that might disturb genuine homeopathy. There also exist some really crazy

modern homeopaths, very esoteric and rarely understandable, but they also

reclaim to work in Hahnemann`s sense. And there is a group (perhaps like me)

that, though working in the sense of good old Hahnemann, tries to look a bit

over "the edge of the plate". For my opinion this must be allowed because

otherwise there would be stagnation and we never had those people like

Einstein, Galileo, yes: Hahnemann and so on.

And: the curiosity is: Everybody has his successes and also each of them has

his failures. Nobody is perfect: not the old schools - not the modern

schools. Perhaps you behave more saturnian and I behave more uranian. But:

even if uranus is not taken in old vedic astrology, uranus nevertheless

exists, there is no doubt.

We could perhaps agree that affairs belonging to the eustachian tube and the

middle ear belong more to the 2nd house and affairs belonging to the hearing

nerve and communication are ruled by the 3rd house. Thus I referred to the

3rd house in this case and only in regards to speach I referred to the

second house. This might be different in cases of deafness due to eustachian

tube catarrh.

By the way, Susan is not my patient, she was living in our town and her case

interested me.

With love, Ilona

[Guest guest]

Dear Ilona,

 

I do understand your liberal approach even though I (obviously) disagree with it

:-)

 

As this case was put forward (I hope) to further our understanding of jyotish,

and not just as a test to see who could get it right, it might be a good idea to

actually discuss the contributing factors from both a liberal and traditional

angle. You've put forward your assessment on the basis of 3rd house governing

ears (hearing)...let's now look at it from the traditional angle.

 

I will tell you first why I leaned towards blindness rather than deafness: The

rules of jyotish tell us that (sorry for dogmatism here, just trying to put it

in clear jyotish dictum) 2nd house governs eyes, ears, nose and throat...so I

assumed the native suffered, from birth, (as 2nd lord is in Asc) from either

blindness, deafness or dumbness. When I saw that Moon, who governs left eye, was

afflicted by Ketu (in the 2nd) and Sun, who governs right eye, was afflicted by

Rahu in 8th house of chronic illness (obviously from birth due to presence of

Asc. lord), I made my decision hastily without due regard to the aspect of

Saturn on 2nd house and Mercury on 2nd lord...I noted them, but not enough

obviously.

 

Although some tension might have ensued from our discussion I certainly learnt

something from studying this chart...am about to learn a lot more as I study

Mercury and Saturn more thoroughly, in relation to their connection with

deafness.

 

I think that instead of just saying; no one got it right so we should put up

more charts, the sensible thing to do would be to discuss the one at hand and

come to a fair understanding of why this native was born deaf.

 

Best Wishes,

Wendy

 

PS: The dasa running at birth; VE-VE-MA Puts Moon, of course, in the nakshatra

of 12th lord Venus who is the dispositor of both Saturn and Mercury. Also worthy

of note; Venus dasa (in 9th) at birth...dasa lord's dispositor (Moon) afflicted

in 2nd....

 

As I said in an earlier post: With hindsight we all have perfect 20/20 vision.

 

>>>Dear Wendy,

I just try to understand you. Let me ( once again) reply with an example of

homeopathy. Also here exist many diferrent trends. There is for example a

very orthodox line, not negatively spoken. But this group of really good

experienced ( like you!) doctors is always very afraid of those influences

that might disturb genuine homeopathy. There also exist some really crazy

modern homeopaths, very esoteric and rarely understandable, but they also

reclaim to work in Hahnemann`s sense. And there is a group (perhaps like me)

that, though working in the sense of good old Hahnemann, tries to look a bit

over "the edge of the plate". For my opinion this must be allowed because

otherwise there would be stagnation and we never had those people like

Einstein, Galileo, yes: Hahnemann and so on.

And: the curiosity is: Everybody has his successes and also each of them has

his failures. Nobody is perfect: not the old schools - not the modern

schools. Perhaps you behave more saturnian and I behave more uranian. But:

even if uranus is not taken in old vedic astrology, uranus nevertheless

exists, there is no doubt.

We could perhaps agree that affairs belonging to the eustachian tube and the

middle ear belong more to the 2nd house and affairs belonging to the hearing

nerve and communication are ruled by the 3rd house. Thus I referred to the

3rd house in this case and only in regards to speach I referred to the

second house. This might be different in cases of deafness due to eustachian

tube catarrh.

By the way, Susan is not my patient, she was living in our town and her case

interested me.

With love, Ilona<<<

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Wendy,

I can only smile at your tenacity, and adherence to the tradition to

Jyotish, and I have to say with some amusement that I am very respectful of

your level of competence. I have much to learn about Jyotish and make no

apologies about that, but lean intuitively towards you insight... I also

respect the courage and intellectual assessments of those Jyotisi's that

dare add to the tradition, by taking into account the affects of the outer

planets, when in angles to the ascendant or the moon.

I continue to be amazed at how the effects of the planets play out, in the

lives of individual souls, and we can all learn from the charts of others.

I think something has to be said for the reality of Divine inspiration in

the assessment of any chart, there are always the various karakas or

indications given for any house or planet, but I believe credit has to be

given to our own inner wisdom for helping in assessment, regardless of the

respect given to intellect. I have been picking up bits and pieces of the

conversation, and state in no uncertain terms that I know very little, yet I

know that one can if in harmony with one's inner being; be open, to

otherwise overlooked wisdom, by the intellectual approach.

You are an incredible astrologer and no one can take that away form you.

Many can learn from your knowledge, and depth of perception for a long time

to come, and that is indisputable.

So as an aspiring astrologer myself I would only wish to say that there is

no need to apologise for tradition, it can stand on its own. If some don't

get that yet, that is ok that is only where they are. And to conclude I

would have to say that we are all blinded by our own egos, some to a greater

degree than others, but it is something we on this path consciously struggle

with, and the more we can surrender it to the greatness that resides within

us, the better we will be able to serve...and that is the only purpose worth

making the effort to proceed.

I do humbly hope that I can continue to learn from all of the learned and

well intentioned astrologers on the list...

Do take care...

Respectfully,

Don

 

 

-

"Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas

<gjlist>

Sunday, August 19, 2001 3:11 PM

Re: [gjlist] medical quiz

 

 

> Dear Ilona,

>

> I do understand your liberal approach even though I (obviously) disagree

with it :-)

>

> As this case was put forward (I hope) to further our understanding of

jyotish, and not just as a test to see who could get it right, it might be a

good idea to actually discuss the contributing factors from both a liberal

and traditional angle. You've put forward your assessment on the basis of

3rd house governing ears (hearing)...let's now look at it from the

traditional angle.

>

> I will tell you first why I leaned towards blindness rather than deafness:

The rules of jyotish tell us that (sorry for dogmatism here, just trying to

put it in clear jyotish dictum) 2nd house governs eyes, ears, nose and

throat...so I assumed the native suffered, from birth, (as 2nd lord is in

Asc) from either blindness, deafness or dumbness. When I saw that Moon, who

governs left eye, was afflicted by Ketu (in the 2nd) and Sun, who governs

right eye, was afflicted by Rahu in 8th house of chronic illness (obviously

from birth due to presence of Asc. lord), I made my decision hastily without

due regard to the aspect of Saturn on 2nd house and Mercury on 2nd lord...I

noted them, but not enough obviously.

>

> Although some tension might have ensued from our discussion I certainly

learnt something from studying this chart...am about to learn a lot more as

I study Mercury and Saturn more thoroughly, in relation to their connection

with deafness.

>

> I think that instead of just saying; no one got it right so we should put

up more charts, the sensible thing to do would be to discuss the one at hand

and come to a fair understanding of why this native was born deaf.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Wendy

>

> PS: The dasa running at birth; VE-VE-MA Puts Moon, of course, in the

nakshatra of 12th lord Venus who is the dispositor of both Saturn and

Mercury. Also worthy of note; Venus dasa (in 9th) at birth...dasa lord's

dispositor (Moon) afflicted in 2nd....

>

> As I said in an earlier post: With hindsight we all have perfect 20/20

vision.

>

> >>>Dear Wendy,

> I just try to understand you. Let me ( once again) reply with an example

of

> homeopathy. Also here exist many diferrent trends. There is for example

a

> very orthodox line, not negatively spoken. But this group of really good

> experienced ( like you!) doctors is always very afraid of those

influences

> that might disturb genuine homeopathy. There also exist some really

crazy

> modern homeopaths, very esoteric and rarely understandable, but they

also

> reclaim to work in Hahnemann`s sense. And there is a group (perhaps like

me)

> that, though working in the sense of good old Hahnemann, tries to look a

bit

> over "the edge of the plate". For my opinion this must be allowed

because

> otherwise there would be stagnation and we never had those people like

> Einstein, Galileo, yes: Hahnemann and so on.

> And: the curiosity is: Everybody has his successes and also each of them

has

> his failures. Nobody is perfect: not the old schools - not the modern

> schools. Perhaps you behave more saturnian and I behave more uranian.

But:

> even if uranus is not taken in old vedic astrology, uranus nevertheless

> exists, there is no doubt.

> We could perhaps agree that affairs belonging to the eustachian tube and

the

> middle ear belong more to the 2nd house and affairs belonging to the

hearing

> nerve and communication are ruled by the 3rd house. Thus I referred to

the

> 3rd house in this case and only in regards to speach I referred to the

> second house. This might be different in cases of deafness due to

eustachian

> tube catarrh.

> By the way, Susan is not my patient, she was living in our town and her

case

> interested me.

> With love, Ilona<<<

>

>

>

>

>

>

> gjlist-

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Marcia.

I have done some work on dreams, but not very much.

 

Remembering dreams is a conscious activity, so there

must be a link between the conscious and the

sub-conscious state.

 

If one has dark/evil dreams, this indicates Tamasic

dreams; and hence look for Natural malefics associated

with the 9th house from Lagna. If the person generally

has a negative behaviour or analytical mind, the Moon

will show these things. A persons intent is also

important and can color the dreams so the

Dharma-Trikonas(5th & 9th), especially in

Dharmamsa(D-9).

 

Finally, conscious spiritual activity is seen in the

Vimsamsa(D-20). Look for a beneficially influenced 9th

house in this Varga.

 

Keep in mind that Planetary aspects on the 9th will

show the type of dreams the person wants, whilst sign

aspects show the dreams that manifest. Intuition is

signified by Parvati(Shakti) so seeing the future is

strongly linked to the moon.

 

As Jupiter rules the Dhi-Shakti(awareness) a Jupiter

auspicious(moolatrikona, Own sign or Exaltation) in

many vargas can bring strong powers of understanding

and remembering. Similar indications should be checked

from the lord of Lagna(paka lagna).

 

Theres alot to keep in mind. Also if the person sleeps

badly then there should be a malefic influence on the

12th house.

 

Hope this helps.

Best wishes, Visti.

 

 

--- Marcia <marcia wrote:

> Thanks both Wendy and Visti for the response.

> So aspects to the 9th would indicate types of

> dreams - ie:

> strong/prophetic/nightmares, etc......?

> Marcia

>

>

> At 01:36 AM 8/18/01 -0700, you wrote:

> >Dear Marcia.

> >The 12th rules sleep. The 9th rules the

> >activity(karma/10th) we do in our sleep, hence

> dreams.

> >

> >Best wishes, Visti

> >

> >--- Marcia <marcia wrote:

> > > Dear List

> > > Please tell,does the 12th house also rules

> dreams?

> > > thanks

> > > Marcia

> > >

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

> gjlist-

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Visti

Thanks for your feedback. Please see below.

 

 

At 08:04 AM 8/21/01 -0700, you wrote:

>Hi Marcia.

>

>

>Keep in mind that Planetary aspects on the 9th will

>show the type of dreams the person wants, whilst sign

>aspects show the dreams that manifest. Intuition is

>signified by Parvati(Shakti) so seeing the future is

>strongly linked to the moon.

 

 

so since i have rahu in the 9H and saturn/ketu in 3H it sounds like

I would WANT tamasic dreams.....I dont really understand that.

 

>Theres alot to keep in mind. Also if the person sleeps

>badly then there should be a malefic influence on the

>12th house.

 

Since mars is aspecting venus (ruler of 12H in my chart) that would be the

reason for my current sleep insomnia. interesting.

 

 

>Hope this helps.

>Best wishes, Visti.

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Marcia.

 

> so since i have rahu in the 9H and saturn/ketu in 3H

> it sounds like

> I would WANT tamasic dreams.....I dont really

> understand that.

 

Lets play with this thought for a minute, and figure

out whether its you or someone else who has these

desires. The 9th also governs faith, and these tamasic

influences, could show the people in your life that

have tested your faith. Rahu in 9th isn't a good

placement, and i have this myself. Our problem is the

extremity of our faith. Once its controlled then we're

ok.

 

A person who would want tamasic dreams would also have

tamasic traits/behaviour. In Navamsa you have Ketu in

Pisces-lagna and no planets in trines.. Your

definitely Sattwic.

 

> Since mars is aspecting venus (ruler of 12H in my

> chart) that would be the

> reason for my current sleep insomnia. interesting.

 

Yes good example. I have Jupiter and Mercury in 12th

again recieving Rasi Dristi from Mars.. i think too

much, but meditation has helped(Jupiter).

 

Best wishes, Visti.

 

p.s. Parasara and Jaimini agree that ears are seen in

the 3rd and 11th houses. 11th house is a visible sign

hence shows the actual hearing part. This should be

reckoned from the 11th from Lagna or Moon, whichever

is stronger acording to Jaimini. Horas and Drekkanas

are also important.. from this point i don't agree

fully with the reasoning from the past assignment.

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hello Visti,

 

I've just sent you an attachment (privately, as I can't send via Gjlist) showing

the reference to Rashi and Physiology. However, in digging out my old study

material, I have noted something that had not taken sufficient root in my

memory.

 

Although (this reference) does clearly state that 2nd house governs ALL organs

of face and neck, and that 3rd house governs palms, wrists, nipples...one thing

escaped my attention...the additional physiological associations and diseases

column attributes venereal or bilious disease, constipation, deafness, headache,

insomnia, mental tension and stammering to the 1st house. Again there is no such

association (with deafness) attributed to either the 3rd or 11th houses.

 

It's been many years since I've taken these notes out of their dusty

folders...probably would be many years still had it not been for this present

debate.

 

So looking at the chart in question we see deafness indicated with 2nd lord

(ears) afflicted in Ascendant...in Rx motion, with nakshatra lord in 12th house

of loss, with dispositor (lagnesh) afflicted in 8th, and being aspected by 8th

lord Mercury.

 

Regards, Wendy

 

 

 

Visti Wrote:

>>>p.s. Parasara and Jaimini agree that ears are seen in

the 3rd and 11th houses. 11th house is a visible sign

hence shows the actual hearing part. This should be

reckoned from the 11th from Lagna or Moon, whichever

is stronger acording to Jaimini. Horas and Drekkanas

are also important.. from this point i don't agree

fully with the reasoning from the past assignment.<<<

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

PS: Although it may seem illogical to attribute deafness and insomnia to 1st

house, it's not when you think about it...if we accept the 12th house as

governing "sleep" then the 2nd from 12th (maraka for 12th) can indicate

insomnia...just as 10th from 12th (9th) indicates "dreams".

 

The same logic justifies deafness (loss of hearing) being attributed to 1st

house (12th from 2nd).......

 

Rgds, Wendy

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Don,

 

Thank you for your words, but undeserving believe me :-))

 

Like all astrologers, I'm still learning.

 

Rgds, Wendy

 

>>>Dear Wendy,

I can only smile at your tenacity, and adherence to the tradition to

Jyotish, and I have to say with some amusement that I am very respectful of

your level of competence. I have much to learn about Jyotish and make no

apologies about that, but lean intuitively towards you insight... I also

respect the courage and intellectual assessments of those Jyotisi's that

dare add to the tradition, by taking into account the affects of the outer

planets, when in angles to the ascendant or the moon.

I continue to be amazed at how the effects of the planets play out, in the

lives of individual souls, and we can all learn from the charts of others.

I think something has to be said for the reality of Divine inspiration in

the assessment of any chart, there are always the various karakas or

indications given for any house or planet, but I believe credit has to be

given to our own inner wisdom for helping in assessment, regardless of the

respect given to intellect. I have been picking up bits and pieces of the

conversation, and state in no uncertain terms that I know very little, yet I

know that one can if in harmony with one's inner being; be open, to

otherwise overlooked wisdom, by the intellectual approach.

You are an incredible astrologer and no one can take that away form you.

Many can learn from your knowledge, and depth of perception for a long time

to come, and that is indisputable.

So as an aspiring astrologer myself I would only wish to say that there is

no need to apologise for tradition, it can stand on its own. If some don't

get that yet, that is ok that is only where they are. And to conclude I

would have to say that we are all blinded by our own egos, some to a greater

degree than others, but it is something we on this path consciously struggle

with, and the more we can surrender it to the greatness that resides within

us, the better we will be able to serve...and that is the only purpose worth

making the effort to proceed.

I do humbly hope that I can continue to learn from all of the learned and

well intentioned astrologers on the list...

Do take care...

Respectfully,

Don<<<

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Wendy.

I like your statement, it makes sense.

 

Try this one on for size. Why does Jaimini give the

10th house for eyes and not the 2nd? Theres a very

good explanation for it.

 

Best wishes, Visti.

 

--- Wendy Vasicek <wenvas wrote:

> PS: Although it may seem illogical to attribute

> deafness and insomnia to 1st house, it's not when

> you think about it...if we accept the 12th house as

> governing "sleep" then the 2nd from 12th (maraka for

> 12th) can indicate insomnia...just as 10th from 12th

> (9th) indicates "dreams".

>

> The same logic justifies deafness (loss of hearing)

> being attributed to 1st house (12th from 2nd).......

>

> Rgds, Wendy

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

> gjlist-

>

>

>

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>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi visti

Interesting about rahu in the 9th. As I am in Rahu Dasa currently, I do

feel as though life has squashed

the basic faith that i have had in a variety of things in life. I figured

that was losing idealism as I got

older, but who knows. Maybe everything will get better in one year , eight

months (and counting) when

Jupiter Dasa begins.

One other question....why would no planets in the trines (either in

addition to or separate from ketu in

pisces lagna in navamsa) indicate satva?

Take care

Marcia

 

 

At 10:39 AM 8/22/01 -0700, you wrote:

>Hi Marcia.

>

> > so since i have rahu in the 9H and saturn/ketu in 3H

> > it sounds like

> > I would WANT tamasic dreams.....I dont really

> > understand that.

>

>Lets play with this thought for a minute, and figure

>out whether its you or someone else who has these

>desires. The 9th also governs faith, and these tamasic

>influences, could show the people in your life that

>have tested your faith. Rahu in 9th isn't a good

>placement, and i have this myself. Our problem is the

>extremity of our faith. Once its controlled then we're

>ok.

>

>A person who would want tamasic dreams would also have

>tamasic traits/behaviour. In Navamsa you have Ketu in

>Pisces-lagna and no planets in trines.. Your

>definitely Sattwic.

>

> > Since mars is aspecting venus (ruler of 12H in my

> > chart) that would be the

> > reason for my current sleep insomnia. interesting.

>

>Yes good example. I have Jupiter and Mercury in 12th

>again recieving Rasi Dristi from Mars.. i think too

>much, but meditation has helped(Jupiter).

>

>Best wishes, Visti.

>

>p.s. Parasara and Jaimini agree that ears are seen in

>the 3rd and 11th houses. 11th house is a visible sign

>hence shows the actual hearing part. This should be

>reckoned from the 11th from Lagna or Moon, whichever

>is stronger acording to Jaimini. Horas and Drekkanas

>are also important.. from this point i don't agree

>fully with the reasoning from the past assignment.

>rms/

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dreams and Rahu in the 9th. Let me look at it again. I have Rahu in the 9th

house but I dont have Tamsic dreams. I have Rahu in the 9th house and I dont

have unflinching support for any idea. And in the 9th, my Rahu is placed in

the sign of Jupiter. Placement of Rahu/Ketu in Kendras and Trines are an

excellent placement provided their dispositors are also well placed. But

incidence of daughters in the family can increase ? (just an observation,

may not be a cardinal truth).

 

regards,

 

Manoj

 

 

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In a message dated 8/22/2001 8:31:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

marcia writes:

 

 

> Interesting about rahu in the 9th. As I am in Rahu Dasa currently, I do

> feel as though life has squashed

> the basic faith that i have had in a variety of things in life. I figured

> that was losing idealism as I got

> older, but who knows. Maybe everything will get better in one year , eight

> months (and counting) when

> Jupiter Dasa begins.

>

 

Hi, Everyone,

 

Good luck to those of you with Rahu in 9th during Rahu Dasa!

My son (Nov 12, 1982 5:16 AM Savannah, Ga , 32 N 5, 81 W 6) has Rahu in

9th and is running Rahu dasa. He can identify with faith being squashed--he

has been tormented endlessly by good ole boy cops who don't like the fact

that some of the friends he hangs around with (he has a LOT of friends) are

black. At one point last summer he was stopped and searched 9 days in a row!

The cops know he doesn't do drugs of any type, will tell me they know he

doesn't cause trouble but is known for "hanging around black kids" -- all of

his friends, black, white, male, female, come to my house and they are all

good kids, never had a problem with anyone. Also, while we are predominantly

(and thus look) white, we are part black, part Cherokee, part Korean, and

part Chinese -- so I suppose the cops must want to chop us into little

separate pieces to feel happy. A (white) kid was trying to bring beer into

my son's truck and my son physically pushed him away when saying no didn't

work--cop saw them and arrested my son for "constructive possession of beer

by a minor" --but that was downgraded to "breach of peace" (because the cop

saw him struggling with the other kid!) and fined him $500.00. The latest

thing that has happened is a known (by the police) psychopath with an

extensive rap sheet was throwing rocks at a car (did some damage) one morning

at the beach and my son stopped him. My son got in his truck to leave

(saying he knew he would get blamed for this) and the man threw his bike in

the back of his truck and jumped in the back, telling my son he better take

him home. My son started to try to toss him out but figured (1) the fastest

way to get rid of the man would be to take him where he wanted to go and (2)

obviously it is illegal to stop someone from getting into your vehicle

(breach of peace), so he did as the man said. There were other witnesses to

what happened and someone called the cops of course. My son told the cops

all he knew, including the man's address!

But one cop came over to my house about 8 times, saying my son had to find

out the man's name so he could have the right address on the warrent. So,

all of my son's friends (about half the town) were trying to find out the

man's name. Finally they did. When the man was arrested (by the cop who

came to our house 8 times), the cop and the pyschopath knew each other--the

cop had been involved with the 24-year-old man since the guy was 10 years

old, knew all about the man's criminal and psychiatric history. He was out on

parole after the last jail term he had served. The psychopath told the cop

he didn't damage the car, my son did. Despite other witnesses to the

contrary, and all the cop's lies about how if my son helped him find the

guy's name, they knew he had tried to stop the man and wouldn't be charged

with anything, Tuesday morning at 7 am six cops came into my house and

arrested my son. The one cop told me that he knew all along who the man was,

but he "didn't want to influence" us. (He should have had my son choose the

man from several pictures, rather than sending him and his friends out

looking for a dangerous felon).

You wouldn't believe the nightmare: we have hired the best defense

lawyer in the area, and are also preparing case for malicious prosecution.

Silver lining to the dark cloud-->The lawyer decided to take on our case at

no charge! Also, Internal Affairs is down here investigating a lot of

abuses. The cops down here have been stopping Hispanic immigrants every

Friday (payday) and letting them go for their cashed paychecks; also, telling

abused/ stalked women they can't get restraining orders. South Carolina is

famous for having the worst rate of domestic abuse deaths in the country

--gee, I wonder if that has anything to do with it. Cops are legally allowed

to lie, so you should never believe anything they say--they don't issue

restraining orders!

My son tells me the cop who drove him to jail actually treated him very

nicely, but he saw other abuses in jail--cops were trying to force another

kid to sign a statement and wouldn't let him see his lawyer, but fortunately

anaother person's lawyer witnessed this and snatched the paper away, balled

it up, threw it away and started yelling at the cops! A kid (black) whose

case had been dismissed because someone else had been convicted and he was

proven to be in school at the time of the crime, was rearrested on a warrent

full of mistakes and kept in jail 5 days without his father or his lawyer

being allowed to see him -- I was talking to his father, and then our lawyer

and the other lawyer who had witnessed things took a lot of names and notes

and went to file complaints. So hopefully something can be done. But if we

see this on just one day, what must be happening full time?

My son has absolutely no faith in a lot of things but is thinking of a

career in Internal Affairs if he qualifies.

If anyone would care to check out his chart and tell me what you think

I'd be interested and grateful. The birthtime is exact.

Note the Moon (10th Lord) in 12th house; I hated that when I saw it.

But might be good for an Internal Affairs investigator. Note Mars (cops)

conjunct Ketu in 3rd--he also injured (twisted) his spine being hit by a car

in Mars dasa (Oct 4, 1993 3:30 or so PM) as he just got off his school bus.

He also studied Kung Fu (Mars conj Ketu in 3rd--martial arts and has a

spiritual, gentle, athletic but not competitive younger brother. My older

son is colorblind (not just racially, he is red and green color-deficient),

also nearsighted (legally blind without contact lens, and the cops wouldn't

let him put them on--he was blind the whole time they held him!) and also has

sleep apnea and must use a machine to sleep or he stops breathing (sleep

study showed he stopped breathing 41 times in five hours for 38 seconds at a

time, whenever he begins to go into REM part of sleep). He also had some

sort of deep bond with animals, they all love him (volunteer work at animal

shelter, we have 3 cats from kittens he's rescued, etc). He's actually very

brave, stayed calm throughout all this, and he's also honest to the point of

near tactlessness, but somehow he has a great deal of charm (except to

certain cops--actually, he says mostly they are are nice to his face, they

just keep after him all the time)..My other son said he should be a diplomat.

Huh, we could use the diplomatic immunity.

So, anyone want to check the chart?

Well, I have to go back to work.

Namaste,

Robin

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Noel,

 

Just wanted to tell you thanks for your post--I wrote back & then had to

rush off and never sent it. It is really distressing that there is not more

research on hormone imbalances for men, it sounds just as rough if not more

rough than for women. You sound like such a caring, gentle man and I'm sorry

that you have to suffer --seems that it's always the nice people who suffer,

and it certainly looks like you have tried everything available to treat the

symptoms. I wonder if acupuncture might help, am going to ask my doctor

tomorrow--he did some amazing drug-free acupuncture help on some things for

me, it's worth a shot if you haven't tried that yet.

Take care,

Robin