medical quiz

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Dear listmembers,

thanks again for sharing your reflections with us. Several of you diagnosted

a disease connected with head, brain, paralysis, nerves and they are not too

far away from the right solution. Yet until now nobody mentioned deafness.

Susan is deaf, due to obstetrician´s incompetent operation by using the

vacuum extractor.

Susan had to sustain damage of the acustic nerve and unfortunately no cure

is possible in her case. Nevertheless she is an energetic young miss today,

undergoing an education as glass-blower in time.

When you study deafness in horoscopes you may find many significators for

this disease in our available books about medical astrology. I compared them

all with Susans chart and fortunately most of them are to be seen here. So I

would declare her horoscope a good example to study this disease. Maybe in

other charts of deafness you will only find a part of these symptoms.

When I regarded her horoscope, I started with the examination of her dasa

rulers. At birth Susan ran Venus Venus Mars Venus. So, Venus seems to be

very important in her case. Venus rules Susan`s 7th and 12th house and

occupies her 9th house, cancer, being a very enemy sign for this planet.

Venus is in star ashlesha, ruling the ears according to GJ. You will see

that there is no real standardization. Regarding other sources, you may find

ashlesha ruling nails or stomach, breathe or even knees and legs, because of

its aspect to capricorn. Let us come back to the ears. Sign ruler is moon

and star ruler is mercury. I´ll come back to them later.

Do you know the constellation of ashlesha? It is a part of hydra, a water

snake. Hydra`s sign is very long, about 100°! degrees, beginning with the

head in cancer, - ashlesha exactly, and stretching until libra. Venus is so

to say sitting in hydra`s head, symbolistically. Mythology tells us about

Hercules who was fighting against Hydra. Hera, his wife sent a CANCER in

this battle, who pinched Herculus´ toe, so that Hercules by mistake crashed

the cancer`s shell.

We could now compare this battle with the doctor`s battle to finish Susan`s

birth. -This doctoer was known for his "method to shorten the birth" by

urging his patients to press already when the cervix had not been

completeley opened. Due to this action the women were already exhausted when

the mouth of the uterus had dilated as far as possible to let the baby pass,

so when the real pressing contractions began, most of the mothers were

drowsy and at the end of her power and the babies´ heartbeats dropped

dramatically. Thus he had to finish birth by vacuum extractor. -The cancer´s

shell (skull) and Hydra´s head lead us directly to the right place: Susan´s

head. The weapon: not the doctor´s feet but his vacuum extractor!

The story would end as a crime if you knew one of the doctor´s prenatal

eclipses, indicating some karmic connection: 25°48 cancer - exactly on

Susan`s venus, 25° 03 cancer! ( His date of birth is either april 19th or

april 25th 1943, time unknown, germany 51N12 6E47, DST 1, muddled

waters...)

So far.

3rd and 11th house stand for the left and right ear. Worst planet in this

case is Saturn, exalted, retrograde and nearly stationary at birth! Saturn

is an enemy for scorpions, he rules Susan`s 3rd house and occupies her 12th

house of loss, closely connected here with violent pluto ( significator for

vacuum tubes!). Saturn rules deafness!

Saturn and pluto are also aspecting her 6th house of disease: aries, the

head.

Both planets are aspecting her 9th house of luck with venus too. Susan was

born on a saturday, so saturn was the day ruler.

Lagna lord mars (ruler of the head) is not so happy in her 8th house of

danger and in conjunction with rahu and sun. The 8th house is in gemini, a

mercury ruled sign. You may remember that ashlesha is also under mercury.

Mercury rules the nerves, communication and the ears in general. Gemini is

the natural 3rd house and in medical cases you must ALWAYS observe the

NATURAL houses too!

So we can say, that Susan´s lagna lord, mars is badly afflicted and he is

sending also an undesirable aspect to her 3rd and 11th house.

 

You could get another valuable indication for ears if you take a look in the

book mentioned below. You know that rahu, mars and the sun are in Susan`s

8th house, gemini. We also know, that mercury, gemini and the natural 3rd

house rule the ears. But you may perhaps miss a more concrete indication for

ears because it could also be possible to think about blindness. Here KP

method makes a very intelligent sub-division of the 27 nakshatras, dividing

each constellation into 9 parts. Thus you can eliminate many of the other

alternatives and select a very few out of the many indicated by the

constellation, how it is noticed in this book. Look here: Rahu is on 1°01

gemini under no. 42. mercury, mars, mercury: injury in the shoulder and

defective vocal cord. ( Of course, her speach is very muddled).

Mars 4°03 is under 44. mercury, mars, venus: vocal cord, throat, ears,

itches, ...

Sun 10°02 is under 48. mercury, rahu, jupiter: septic throat, ear trouble,

mumps.

( "Astological diagnosis of diseases" by K. Hariharan, page 62)

 

Another possibility to come to the right body parts might be the Hindu

system, working with drekkanas. First drekkana of the 3rd house: right ear.

( rahu, mars and the sun are to find there.)

First drekkana of the 11th house: left ear. ( MC, in virgo, the natural

house of sickness, aspected by mars).

 

Mercury, another enemy for scorpions occupies the 7th house, taurus, a

maraka house. Taurus, being the natural 2nd house, rules speach and throat.

Mercury 24°25, is aspected by interrupting uranus and retrograde jupiter,

ruler of 2 (speach) and 5th (intelligence). Jupiter probably saved Susan`s

life. But a retrograde jupiter, only neutral in sagittarius, conjoint with

uranus does for my opinion not give all his best and he could not prevent

deafness due to all the other bad influences. He would be ruler of the

natural 12th house too, hospital, loss, isolation. And Jupiter is a maraka

for scorpions.

Look under main preferences in your GJ-program and choose out the

karakalist. Deafness in Susan`s chart is indicated by mercury`s

affliction.

 

The moon, ruler of her 9th house of luck (being the natural 4th house) is in

2, a maraka house, conjoint with ketu and neptune. Again we can see an

attack on her speach ( house 2): ketu restrains and neptun muddles speaking

ability. Hence Susan is the first child, her sickness influenced her mother

and housely affairs heavily. This being so horribly, as nobody recognized

Susan`s handicap in the first weeks.

Additionally Susan is born exactly on the day of an eclipse in this second

house. Eclipses are interruptions!

 

There are some deeper connections with the head. Take out your magnifying

glass and look at the 6th varga, telling about diseases, the shasthamsha:

ketu, rahu, saturn, mars, neptun and pluto are all in aries! No aspect of

jupiter, beeing in 12.

You may take now a glance in your "microscope" to examine her 30th

divisional chart, dealing with misfortunes, injuries, enimity, dideases, for

discovering the hidden dangers in life. (GJ): the trimshamsa. Again ketu,

rahu , mars, saturn, neptun and pluto can be find in aries, the natural

first house, ruling the head!

 

For those listmembers who like to make some philosophical connections: I

know the doctor and the old midwife personally, because I made a period of

practical on birth station in this hospital in 1990. Fortunately the

gynaecological station is closed in the meantime, because this doctor had to

undergo several legal proceedings some years ago. People told me, that he is

now working on a cruise boat, (the water snake, because snake is the

doctors´sign...) others told me, that he died.

In Susan`s horoscope I took saturn for the doctor, because saturn is in 12,

the hospital. Pluto, in conjunction with saturn is his vacuum extractor. (

pluto is to mighty for this doctor, the trainee of magic). Saturn is on

4°12, retro in libra. Libra rules also equilibrium, the sense being posited

in the inner ear. In aquarius, (the natural 11th house, right ear and due to

co-ruler uranus nerval disorders) saturn`s house, you could find Ceres on

4°29, forming an exact trigone with saturn. Ceres is the old midwife, the

doctor`s devoted assistant, who hushed up all his amateurish actions.

Neptune, this big phoney, being on 4°09 retrograde in sagittarius, the

natural house of justice, makes a loveley sextile to both of them.

Mars, significator for surgery is exactly opposite neptune on 4°03 gemini in

Susan`s 8th house of danger and natural house of ears.

These degrees being all connected with 4°, might have been triggerd by the

last eclipse before Susan`s conception on july 20th 1982 on 4°12 CANCER. Our

evil friend gulika, is on 4°09 cancer too.

 

The deeper we go into this chart the more we will discover about deafness. I

ask you to give some more horoscopes about this disease on the list. Please

select only charts with exact birthdata. We could so improve our knowledge

about this item. I could also imagine that somebody of the list offers one

"healthy" and one "deaf" chart and we`ll try to make the right diagnosis.

Deafness is a very good item to improve our diagnostic abilities. It´s range

is not too far. Afterwards we could perhaps reflect about blindness -

another disease that should be possible to be diagnosed in a horoscope. But

now: let`s work on ears first.

Best wishes and thanks again, Ilona

[Guest guest]

Thank you for answer Ilona,

 

Deafness never occurred to me...it points to the need to study medical

astrology...something I've never really bothered with until now as (for

instance) if Susan were to consult me personally I would know immediately if she

was deaf or blind :-)

 

The second house is the area of affliction...we agree! and 2nd house governs all

areas of face and neck (eyes, ears, nose, throat, organs of speech, larynx,

etc...) so affliction to this part of body is obvious. I chose blindness

(mainly) due to the aspect of Sun...a hasty decision obviously...a safer guess

would have been; 'either deaf, blind or dumb'.....

 

Certainly, when circumstances permit, I will purchase some books on "medical

astrology"...until then I'll leave the temptation to guess in my hip pocket.

 

Regards,

Wendy

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Ilona,

 

I'm sorry but I must differ with your statement.......

 

>>>You could get another valuable indication for ears if you take a look in

the

book mentioned below. You know that rahu, mars and the sun are in Susan`s

8th house, gemini. We also know, that mercury, gemini and the natural 3rd

house rule the ears. But you may perhaps miss a more concrete indication for

ears because it could also be possible to think about blindness.<<<

 

In my opinion you have the right disease(s) but the wrong reason for them. The

3rd house governs shoulders, arms, hands and (oddly) nipples. The 2nd governs

all organs of face and neck...as said in previous post, eyes, ears, nose and

throat...all are governed by 2nd house.

 

You, of course, have the right disease (as this is a patient of yours), but

the astrological diagnosis is not 100% accurate.

 

Regards,

Wendy