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In a message dated 8/17/2001 10:46:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

sattva writes:

 

 

> Dear Doriano

> I maybe way off here because I didn't read all the postings on this

> subject before they got trashed but from what I have read, Considering

> her age! it sounds to me like she has a hormone imbalance (menopause)!

> Most of the women in my area, including my wife are handling it by using

> a good quality progesterone cream. She would have to go through a

> saturation period of two months and then three weeks on and one week

> off. Source Natural has a good quality one and you can probably find it

> on line. let me know if I can be of help. ...... Bless You My Friend

> ........... Noel

>

 

Dear Doriano,

 

Noel's post reminded me --if it's hormones, I just use the lowest dose of

birth control pills available for hormone replacement therapy, worked within

3 hours for me (that is, sense of well-being came back--after 18 months of

nasty depression and anxiety and sleep disruption) ! Plus, estrogen protects

against bone loss and certain cancers (colon cancer, for example). And it

makes your skin look smooth. I have friends who use the cream Noel spoke of,

but this is my suggestion. It's a good idea to take extra B vitamins,

evening primrose oil is good; and finding an exercise she enjoys will boost

endorphins and health, lift the spirits. Also, a hot bath with Epsom salts

is a good way to get very drowsy. Haven't checked the chart yet, but as a

person with Mars in Lagna opposite 6th house Lord Moon, I have much empathy

for anyone who has trouble sleeping. Oh yes, drink lots of water too.

Good luck,

Robin

 

 

 

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Dear Doriano

I maybe way off here because I didn't read all the postings on this

subject before they got trashed but from what I have read, Considering

her age! it sounds to me like she has a hormone imbalance (menopause)!

Most of the women in my area, including my wife are handling it by using

a good quality progesterone cream. She would have to go through a

saturation period of two months and then three weeks on and one week

off. Source Natural has a good quality one and you can probably find it

on line. let me know if I can be of help. ...... Bless You My Friend

............ Noel

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I totally agree with this, Wendy. I do believe that Einstein said that sleeping

beyond four hours a night is too much...! I don't sleep as much as most people

and have tons of mental energy that keep me 'up'. I'd rather not be made to

feel bad about my natural 'way' and be put on drugs (like society likes to

do...make you feel 'whatever' if you don't fit into their standards). It's like

kids who are forced to take Ritalin as a way to 'control' them rather than let

them just be themselves and force the teachers to change. Geez. My son was one

of those borderline kids that they were considering putting on 'Ritalin'. Over

my dead body:o) He's just like me. He has Sun/Merc in the 12th, by the way.

Ketu in the 7th.

 

Renee

 

>>> wenvas 08/17/01 07:04AM >>>

Hello Doriano,

 

Twelfth house, as Ilona said, is connected with sleep and naturally influences

on this house or it's lord can affect our sleeping pattern (for better or

worse). In your wife's horoscope 12th lord Mercury is tightly conjunct Ketu.

Both Mercury and Ketu are in the nakshatra of Saturn who is in the 12th house

itself.

 

Ketu's influence on Mercury is to hinder it so that it acts in an unordinary,

extraordinary, way. The reason why this effect (on Mercury) is being felt so

strongly now is that Ketu reaches maturity at 48...scripture states that during

the year of maturity (47-48) the effects of that planet will be felt strongly,

regardless of the dasa running at the time. Note however that Ketu is transiting

Jupiter's sign Sagittarius and your wife is currently running Jupiter

Bhukti....etc.

 

There are several adverse conditions but the most detrimental, in regards to

disturbed sleeping patterns, is (I believe) the influence of Ketu....Ketu causes

disturbances.

 

But let's not forget who Ketu is...as moksha karaka, conjunct moksha lord

(Mercury) and atma karaka (Sun) he gives your wife a strong push towards

enlightenment (liberation, union with Godhead...whatever you like to call it).

Rather than poisoning her mind and intellect with drugs like mogadon (shudder!)

she should listen to what her own body intelligence is telling her. I know that

sleeping eight hours a night is considered normal...but normal for who ??

 

What's normal for us is what's indicated in our horoscope. You should encourage

your wife to listen to her own inner intelligence and instead of taking mogadon

to put her into an unnatural sleep she should take advantage of her

sleeplessness and make that her time of quiet devotion (meditation, vigil,

whatever). Many...many great people had disturbed sleeping patterns. Correct me

if I'm wrong but I think Albert Einstein was one who rarely slept what was

considered a "normal" sleep...Winston Churchill another...he was accustomed to

taking short catnaps in his chair when his body required it.

 

I think it's terribly wrong to force people into what we believe is normal, and

to go so far as to drug them in order to achieve this is terribly wrong...no

wonder she's a nervous wreck!

 

Regards,

Wendy

 

 

Namaste to All

 

Can someone please enlighten me to find in the horoscope of my woman the signs

of the heavy troubles with sleeping she's actually passing throw ? They cause

also troubles of nervous system.

 

Here's her date of birth:

 

Daniela

Bergamo (ITALY)

July 23 - 1953

13:00 p.m

Long. 9 E 43

Lat. 45N 41

Italy is (-1 GMT)

 

Krishna may bless You All for your kindness

Hari Bol

 

Doriano

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Doriano.

 

I agree fully with Wendys statement, and have some

additions, which i hope don't confuse you too much.

 

The 12th house from Lagna shows the place one sleeps.

Malefics in this place can show inability to sleep,

either due to lack of bed or other troubles.

 

The reason can be seen by the lordship of planets in

the 12th; Saturn is here in Virgo a Friendly sign for

Saturn. Saturn lords the 4th and 5th houses, the

former has Rahu indicating troubles to the mind.

 

The Natural indicator of the mind; Moon is debilitated

in the 2nd.

 

The 2nd and 12th houses are important for the persons

health, being indicated by the Lagna. If there are

malefic planets in 2nd it causes the person to eat

badly, or wrongly, and if the same in 12th it causes

Papakartari Yoga and the person can be kept in bondage

where the place of sleep(12th) and 2nd(food) is

controlled by people who seek todo evil upon the

native.. i.e. prison.

 

If however a benefic planet falls in the 2nd and a

malefic falls in the 12th, the Malefic planet will

obstruct the pleasant happenings of the 2nd.

 

She has debilitated Moon in 2nd causing a fluid

imbalance in her eating, coupled with Saturn

obstructing it from the 12th, you can be sure that her

sleeping disorders prevailed around the same time.

 

>From your statements her problems began in Moons Maha

Dasa, actually quite close to the begining.

 

 

Her Trimsamsa has Venus and Jupiter in 12th(Cap),

which is very good for remedial messures, showing that

the problem can be removed through peacefuk remedies..

a person with a weak moon shouldn't take drugs of any

kind!

 

The 12th lord Saturn is with debilitated Moon in the

10th house. Her eye-sight may have degraded due to her

lack of sleep as well. Nervous problems are usually

caused by Saturn-Moon connections.

 

 

So when will it be over?

She's currently running Mars-Jupiter Dasa, and surely

this is a good time to pick up on the remedial

messures, acording to the trimsamsa.

 

As the focal point seems to be moon, tell her to boil

some rice & milk (krishna loves milk) for eating, and

to continue worshipping Krishna.. preferably not as

early in the morning as in the past, as Moon in the

sign it dislikes the most shows that her health will

be problematic. So the point is a healthy worship of

krishna.

 

Hare Krishna

Best wishes to you and your wife, Visti.

 

 

 

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