Guest guest Posted August 10, 2001 Report Share Posted August 10, 2001 Dear Listers I am one of those silent types who keeps in on your discussions, but seldom speaks out for fear that I will be criticised. No longer. The question of remedial measures is one that appeals to me, probably better than "diagnostic" astrology, because I believe, it is important to say "what now?". I know I'm in deep kimchi but what now ?? In my personal opinion, remedial measures are like the rest of the vedic system, in that they are of three types. Like you have 3 gods taking care of three worlds, three main nadis to control shakti, three gunas and even in astrology three types of planets (neutral, enemy and friendly, the other two being extensions) 0 Remedial measures are broadly categorised into Tantric, those that are deed or action related, mantric - those that are prayer related and yantric - those that are object related. They are (not linked to the first three) also known as Jap (mantra based) Tap(Personal sacrifice based) and Vrat (other sacrificae based) The influences of each type of remedial measure is vastly different. Yantra is composed of such items as gemstones, taviz (amulets), yantras of all kinds numeric or otherwise, rudrakshas, beads of various kinds, flowers taht may be pleasing to a deity, clothes, colors, grains, etc. In short, anything that is a different object used to attain an objective is yantra. Obviously the sevrity of effects of such items range from just mild inflences to major things happening (a penknife is far less effective than say a bowie knife) but thay are also temporary. Once you remove the yantra, no effects take place. Tantra is compose of action, and includes using yantras and mantras, but mainly consists of using remedial measures liek appeasing gods by performing actions that are liekd by them. These inlude eating particular grains on particular days, wearing clothes made of fiber that is patronised by a god, using a item that is liked by a god, offering flowers to that god, offering particular kinds of alms to particular kinds of people, food to specific birds / animals, fasting on particular days etc., (remember here, gods are the gods in charge of a graha or friendly to it). mantra is composed chiefly of meditating using sentences / words to remember a particular God. Coming back to Jap, Tap and Vrat, these are categorised as Jap being a no undertaking based rememberance of a God to achieve a particular objective. The effects of Jap are said to carry over into the next life if it is used for attaining nirvana, till such time as you achieve nirvana. Tap is another method which includes performing fasts along with the mantras, but normally it is mantra + tantra based. This mainly includes fasting on a particular day, and doing japas of that God, but may also consist of tapasyas like singing hymns or suchlike to show your devotion. A combination of personal sacrifice and mental orientation to a God to attain a goal is best what Tap is about. Vrat is like tap, but normally vrats are performed by people who are close to you. Normally vrats are performed on specific days to attain specific objectives. The difference is that vrats are generally more global in nature and a designated vrat day is normally when all believers in vedic hinduism observe vrats. They are like oaths or undertakings that are temporary. In astrology the group discussed about whether yantra remedial measures really work. Yes, they do, if the prescription is accurate and when diagnosing consideration is taken to account for factors that may cause side effects like dasas, gochara placements, isht and kasht phalas and most importantly the objective sought. A generally benefic planet can nevr do all bad, and vice versa, but they can definetly push in the right direction provided everything else is OK. When prescribing a gem for remedy, study the isht and kasht phala, and the dasa placements. Also look at the gochara for adverse transit effects. It is important to use the yantra as a storage device so first clean it with pure thought (use milk and water to wash it and mentally think as if by washing it you are ridding it of any adversity it may cause you). Then fill it with good thoughts of how good the presiding god of that gem is, how powerful he is and how he can help you by residing in the gem so whenever you have the gem, it represents that God helping you out. reciting mantras to appease him fills the gem with good thoughts and "furnishes" the gem with suitable accomodation for the presiding gods energy. I havent read any book by James Braha but am eager to know more about remedies. I do belive I had a long session expounding on my personal belief. May God give you all Sadbuddhi(Good knowledge) Shanti (Peace) Sampatti (Wealth) and Samruddhi (progress). Jai Mataaji. The Spook. Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Messenger http://phonecard./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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