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Hi Scott

 

Please post any words you want translated right away and I'll do the

best I can.

 

That particular kind of thing I like to deal with.

 

 

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You're on, Das!

 

Here are a couple of Western astrology terms/ideas that Scott might like

Vedic terms/explanations/comparisons for...others reading this list may wish

to add to this:

 

1) Conjunction

2) Quincunx

3) Opposition

4) Trine

5) Square

6) Midheaven

7) Immum Coeli

8) Aspect Orb

9) House systems

10) Declinations

11) Astro-locality maps

12) Quality or effect of a planet, such as the Western concept: "Jupiter

always expands the matters of the house he is in, Saturn restricts, Mars

gives impetus, Venus adds beauty, Moon gives fluctuations," etc.

 

These are a start for discussion: Western concepts, and how are these dealt

with in the Vedic system?

 

Best wishes,

Carol Hook

 

 

 

 

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These are some basics I can offer. I don't know the translations for

most of the words Carol posted unfortunately. The following words are

used all the time in Vedic land and so here's what they mean:

 

 

Rashi Sign

Bhava House

Navamsa 9 part divisional chart

Drishti aspect

Parivartan mutual exchange of signs

Neecha fallen, debilitated

Ucha Exalted

Lagna Ascendent

Grahas planets

Jyotish the science of light, or an astrologer

Vidya knowledge

Guru means "heavy", refers to teacher, heavy with knowledge

Sandhi edge or start

Rashi Sandhi at the edge of the sign

Bhava Sandhi at the edge of a house

Madhya middle

Bhava Madhya the middle of the house

Sripati a ancient personality, house system named after him

Purnima full moon

Ravi sun

Surya sun

Chandra moon

Mangal mars

Kuja mars

Kuja Dosh mars afflicting the seventh house

Budha Mercury

Guru Jupiter

Brhaspati Jupiter

Shukra Venus

Shani Saturn

Rahu North Node

Ketu South Node

Gochara Transits

Gochara Phal, results of transits

Shloka a verse from scripture

Mahajan great person

Acarya teacher who walks his talk, a certain kind of Guru, a leader

Sampradaya a school of thought, a succession of master/disciple

through time

Jaganath "lord of the universe", God, a certain place in India (Jaganath Puri)

Sisya a disciple or student

Mantra a repeated prayer

Japa chanting a prayer repeatedly

Mesha aries

Vrishabha taurus

Mithuna Gemini

Karkataka, Karkata, Karki (my word), Cancer

Simha Lion, Leo

Kanya, young girl, Virgo

Thula scales, Libra

Vrishchika Scorpio(n)

Dhanus bow, Sagittarius

Makara Capricorn (source of "being in the muck")

Kumba Aquarius, water pot

Meena Pisces, fish

Lagnesh Asc lord

Pati lord

Yoga a combination of factors

Dashas a list of periods of life ruled by planets

Shad Bala "six strengths", a judgement system of planetary strengths

Vimshottari means "120", refers to years, main dasha system name

Kundali the chart diagram, the chart itself

Vargas means "divisions", refers to divisional charts

Yugas great ages of time in universal history

Gita a book spoken by Krishna

Parashara the sage seen as the father of Vedic Astro.

Rishi a sage

Ishta Deva your selected deity for worship

Purva Punya past life merits, good karma

Karma means "work", name of 10th house, your good and bad stuff collectively

Kala time

Vishna God

Krishna God

Devi Goddess

Durga Goddess

Shiva God

Vaisnava worshipper of Vishnu/Krishna

Shaivaite worshipper of Shiva

Puja worship

Shanti Peace

Om a general "seed" mantra, refers to "all", "everything", or God

Sanskrit the language of ancient india

Sastra scripture

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Om Krsnaaya Namah

 

Hi Carol,

 

Here goes:

 

> 1) Conjunction

 

Yuti

 

> 2) Quincunx

 

Not considered an aspect in Jyotish. But a six/eight relationship is

recognised as being bad, and is referred to as shastashtaka.

 

> 3) Opposition

> 4) Trine

> 5) Square

 

The above three are aspects that apply to certain planets only. It is taken

as natural that these planets have these aspects and so the aren't given

specific names - just aspects (drishti).

 

In Tajaka jyotish, used especially in the interpretation of Varshaphala

charts (solar returns) and sometimes also in Prashna (horary), all planets

have the ability to cast oppositions, trines and squares. Planets casting

trines onto another are called pratyaksha mitra (open friends). Those

casting sextiles are called gupta mitra (secret friends). Those casting

conjunctions and oppositions are called pratyaksha shatru (open enemies) and

those casting squares are called gupta shatru (secret enemies).

 

> 6) Midheaven

> 7) Immum Coeli

 

The above two concepts are only important for those using the Sripati house

system (similar, although not exactly the same as porphyry house system used

in western astrology). Those using the Shripati house system would refer to

the MC and IC as the madhyas (midpoints) of the tenth and fourth

respectively (there are many names for the houses in jyotish).

 

> 8) Aspect Orb

 

While Parashara gives a very detailed method to calculate the exact

numerical strength of an aspect, therefore indicating that the orb of an

aspect does matter, the planets themselves do not have an exact orb within

which they much aspect in Parashari jyotish. Tajaka jyotish does have orbs

(assigned to planets, not aspect types - like classical western) and these

are called deeptamshas.

 

> 9) House systems

 

While there are controversies now as to which house system is correct,

classical jyotish appears to indicate that there is just one house system

(we just don't know which). As such there is no sanskrit word referring to

"house systems" in general. Of course, there are names for the house systems

currently in use - equal (whole sign = house), equal (30* houses with the

ascendant degree as the midpoint of each house), Sripati (already mentioned)

and Placidus (used by followers of Krishnamurti Paddhati - KP - but having

no classical reference).

 

> 10) Declinations

 

Kranti - Declinations are used in the strength determination method called

Shad Bala.

 

> 11) Astro-locality maps

 

Not really a jyotish thing, although used by many modern jyotishi's in the

west.

 

> 12) Quality or effect of a planet, such as the Western concept: "Jupiter

> always expands the matters of the house he is in, Saturn restricts, Mars

> gives impetus, Venus adds beauty, Moon gives fluctuations," etc.

 

The characteristics of planets in Vedic and western are amazingly similar,

and all that you wrote above is valid. But there is a lot more to knowing

the demigods presiding over the planets and the best sources of information

about these are the BPHS and other jyotish classics, as well as the Srimad

Bhagavatam (Bhagavat Purana), and other Puranas. "Light on Life" by Hart

deFouw has a good section on the planets as well.

 

Hope this helped,

 

Pursottam

 

 

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What does BPHS stand for?

 

>>> pursottam_dabasia 08/02/01 03:05PM >>>

Om Krsnaaya Namah

 

Hi Carol,

 

Here goes:

 

> 1) Conjunction

 

Yuti

 

> 2) Quincunx

 

Not considered an aspect in Jyotish. But a six/eight relationship is

recognised as being bad, and is referred to as shastashtaka.

 

> 3) Opposition

> 4) Trine

> 5) Square

 

The above three are aspects that apply to certain planets only. It is taken

as natural that these planets have these aspects and so the aren't given

specific names - just aspects (drishti).

 

In Tajaka jyotish, used especially in the interpretation of Varshaphala

charts (solar returns) and sometimes also in Prashna (horary), all planets

have the ability to cast oppositions, trines and squares. Planets casting

trines onto another are called pratyaksha mitra (open friends). Those

casting sextiles are called gupta mitra (secret friends). Those casting

conjunctions and oppositions are called pratyaksha shatru (open enemies) and

those casting squares are called gupta shatru (secret enemies).

 

> 6) Midheaven

> 7) Immum Coeli

 

The above two concepts are only important for those using the Sripati house

system (similar, although not exactly the same as porphyry house system used

in western astrology). Those using the Shripati house system would refer to

the MC and IC as the madhyas (midpoints) of the tenth and fourth

respectively (there are many names for the houses in jyotish).

 

> 8) Aspect Orb

 

While Parashara gives a very detailed method to calculate the exact

numerical strength of an aspect, therefore indicating that the orb of an

aspect does matter, the planets themselves do not have an exact orb within

which they much aspect in Parashari jyotish. Tajaka jyotish does have orbs

(assigned to planets, not aspect types - like classical western) and these

are called deeptamshas.

 

> 9) House systems

 

While there are controversies now as to which house system is correct,

classical jyotish appears to indicate that there is just one house system

(we just don't know which). As such there is no sanskrit word referring to

"house systems" in general. Of course, there are names for the house systems

currently in use - equal (whole sign = house), equal (30* houses with the

ascendant degree as the midpoint of each house), Sripati (already mentioned)

and Placidus (used by followers of Krishnamurti Paddhati - KP - but having

no classical reference).

 

> 10) Declinations

 

Kranti - Declinations are used in the strength determination method called

Shad Bala.

 

> 11) Astro-locality maps

 

Not really a jyotish thing, although used by many modern jyotishi's in the

west.

 

> 12) Quality or effect of a planet, such as the Western concept: "Jupiter

> always expands the matters of the house he is in, Saturn restricts, Mars

> gives impetus, Venus adds beauty, Moon gives fluctuations," etc.

 

The characteristics of planets in Vedic and western are amazingly similar,

and all that you wrote above is valid. But there is a lot more to knowing

the demigods presiding over the planets and the best sources of information

about these are the BPHS and other jyotish classics, as well as the Srimad

Bhagavatam (Bhagavat Purana), and other Puranas. "Light on Life" by Hart

deFouw has a good section on the planets as well.

 

Hope this helped,

 

Pursottam

 

 

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Hi Pursottam and list-members,

 

Could you elobrate on trine and sextile aspect of the planets. Are they same

or differ in any way.

 

~ Drifter

 

 

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RE: [gjlist] Definitions

Thu, 2 Aug 2001 23:05:21 +0100

 

Om Krsnaaya Namah

 

Hi Carol,

 

Here goes:

 

> 1) Conjunction

 

Yuti

 

> 2) Quincunx

 

Not considered an aspect in Jyotish. But a six/eight relationship is

recognised as being bad, and is referred to as shastashtaka.

 

> 3) Opposition

> 4) Trine

> 5) Square

 

The above three are aspects that apply to certain planets only. It is taken

as natural that these planets have these aspects and so the aren't given

specific names - just aspects (drishti).

 

In Tajaka jyotish, used especially in the interpretation of Varshaphala

charts (solar returns) and sometimes also in Prashna (horary), all planets

have the ability to cast oppositions, trines and squares. Planets casting

trines onto another are called pratyaksha mitra (open friends). Those

casting sextiles are called gupta mitra (secret friends). Those casting

conjunctions and oppositions are called pratyaksha shatru (open enemies) and

those casting squares are called gupta shatru (secret enemies).

 

> 6) Midheaven

> 7) Immum Coeli

 

The above two concepts are only important for those using the Sripati house

system (similar, although not exactly the same as porphyry house system used

in western astrology). Those using the Shripati house system would refer to

the MC and IC as the madhyas (midpoints) of the tenth and fourth

respectively (there are many names for the houses in jyotish).

 

> 8) Aspect Orb

 

While Parashara gives a very detailed method to calculate the exact

numerical strength of an aspect, therefore indicating that the orb of an

aspect does matter, the planets themselves do not have an exact orb within

which they much aspect in Parashari jyotish. Tajaka jyotish does have orbs

(assigned to planets, not aspect types - like classical western) and these

are called deeptamshas.

 

> 9) House systems

 

While there are controversies now as to which house system is correct,

classical jyotish appears to indicate that there is just one house system

(we just don't know which). As such there is no sanskrit word referring to

"house systems" in general. Of course, there are names for the house systems

currently in use - equal (whole sign = house), equal (30* houses with the

ascendant degree as the midpoint of each house), Sripati (already mentioned)

and Placidus (used by followers of Krishnamurti Paddhati - KP - but having

no classical reference).

 

> 10) Declinations

 

Kranti - Declinations are used in the strength determination method called

Shad Bala.

 

> 11) Astro-locality maps

 

Not really a jyotish thing, although used by many modern jyotishi's in the

west.

 

> 12) Quality or effect of a planet, such as the Western concept: "Jupiter

> always expands the matters of the house he is in, Saturn restricts, Mars

> gives impetus, Venus adds beauty, Moon gives fluctuations," etc.

 

The characteristics of planets in Vedic and western are amazingly similar,

and all that you wrote above is valid. But there is a lot more to knowing

the demigods presiding over the planets and the best sources of information

about these are the BPHS and other jyotish classics, as well as the Srimad

Bhagavatam (Bhagavat Purana), and other Puranas. "Light on Life" by Hart

deFouw has a good section on the planets as well.

 

Hope this helped,

 

Pursottam

 

 

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Thanks go to Sabine for referring us to Das' posting a few years back, and

to Pursottam for a very thoughtful reply. I have been tied up with a

teenaged son's activities this week plus a computer at work that had to be

reformatted due to SirCam virus, and just now have a moment to say thanks for

your helpful responses. We certainly have a wonderful group of people on

this list--God bless you all!

Best wishes,

Carol Hook

 

 

 

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In a message dated 8/2/2001 6:41:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

RSERRANO writes:

 

 

> What does BPHS stand for?

>

>

 

That's an acronym or short way of writing Brihat Parasara Hora Sastra, the

foundation for Vedic astrology, a set of 2 volumes of immense importance as

they form the main or original body of our astrological knowledge. Every

beginning and advanced student ought to obtain a set of BHPS if at all

possible.

Best to you,

Carol Hook

 

 

 

 

 

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