Guest guest Posted July 5, 2001 Report Share Posted July 5, 2001 Namaste Renee/Akshaya, Mars is the highest neecha at 28th degree, it is true debilitation point, where it is considered weak. However, it can be mended by various neecha bhanga. The worst position of mars is neecha navamsa where the wound is very sore, and remedy hard to get. Navamsa is dharma, and that is carried with us from previous life. Guru shani conjuntion is known under the name of Brahma Yoga, however Shani is badhakesh in the chart, and it carries obstacles. The crucial point is badhakesh navamsa, and position of rahu in your chart. However, Guru neecha is excellent for material wealth in this case. Also in spite of shani being badhakesh, favourable dharmakarmaadhipathy yoga occurs in the chart, givin dutiful, industrious and virtuous personality. Best wishes, Zoran Renee Serrano wrote: > "Renee, > > What is the relation with Mars at 27 degrees of Cancer and 'lay low'. > Could you please enlighten me. > > ~ akshaya > > Dear Akshaya... > > Braha felt that my Jupiter/Mars opposition....that both planets are debilitated even though they exchange exalted signs (which technically cancel the debilitation out but in experience he does not find this to be so). Due to the transits at this time (Saturn) and then my Jupiter/Mars dasa/bhukti period coming up in August of next year.....that that might be a very dangerous time for me. The last time I had a similar period...Mars/Jupiter dasa/bhukti...I had near death experience and went through a couple of years of intense personal problems. Of course, at that time, I was not into vedic...had no idea about these things but now that I DO...I can look back at the dasa's and realize (they fit for me) why certain times were 'worse' than others. He told me about remedial measures and mantra's which I have IMMEDIATELY applied to my life and I can't tell you how much better in just two months...things have improved for me:o) He also stated that because of certain transits, ! my! > energy may be lower than usual so to also take it easy etc. The Jupiter/Mars thing also applies to my mother and father who are elderly. Mars at 27 Cancer in the 4th can point to a mother who suffered greatly or with whom one did not get along. My mother has had a horrible life....has suffered tremendously on all levels. Jupiter in the 10th in Cap can also relate to the father and my dad has just been hit with a lot of medical problems for the first time in his life (he is 70...always had the best of health) and he is not psychologically adjusting to it very well. Braha said one can do mantra's FOR another person which I have done as well ...as much as I can before that period occurs for all concerned. If I can help...I will. It certainly won't hurt anything so why not? > > Hope this makes sense. I'm just a student that is learning here. > > Love and Light... > > Renee (Also Larazzza on this list) > > >>> akshaya.gupta 07/05/01 06:53AM >>> > Renee, > > What is the relation with Mars at 27 degrees of Cancer and 'lay low'. > Could you please enlighten me. > > ~ akshaya > > > LaRAZZZA [LaRAZZZA] > Wednesday, July 04, 2001 8:49 PM > gjlist > Cc: LaRAZZZA > Re: [gjlist] Cancer > > In a message dated 7/4/01 2:38:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > natabara writes: > > << Keep a low profile and have a good challenging time. > > Lots of love > nATABARA > >> > Yeah I know...I had James Braha read my chart recently and he said to > 'lay > low' for a couple of years...<LAUGH>. Mantra's here I come! Mars at 27 > > Cancer here <sigh> > > Renee > > > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2001 Report Share Posted July 5, 2001 Dear Zoran, I feel that this is a debatable point. That the deep debilitation of Mars can be cancelled ( As you said, it can be mended by various neecha bhanga). Can you please elaborate? Regards G Kumar www.zodiaccomputers.com - <ahimsa <gjlist> Friday, July 06, 2001 8:25 AM Re: [gjlist] Cancer/Akshaya > Namaste Renee/Akshaya, > Mars is the highest neecha at 28th degree, it is true debilitation > point, where it is considered weak. However, it can be mended by various > neecha bhanga. The worst position of mars is neecha navamsa where the > wound is very sore, and remedy hard to get. Navamsa is dharma, and that > is carried with us from previous life. Guru shani conjuntion is known > under the name of Brahma Yoga, however Shani is badhakesh in the chart, > and it carries obstacles. The crucial point is badhakesh navamsa, and > position of rahu in your chart. However, Guru neecha is excellent for > material wealth in this case. Also in spite of shani being badhakesh, > favourable dharmakarmaadhipathy yoga occurs in the chart, givin dutiful, > industrious and virtuous personality. > Best wishes, > Zoran > > Renee Serrano wrote: > > > "Renee, > > > > What is the relation with Mars at 27 degrees of Cancer and 'lay low'. > > Could you please enlighten me. > > > > ~ akshaya > > > > Dear Akshaya... > > > > Braha felt that my Jupiter/Mars opposition....that both planets are debilitated even though they exchange exalted signs (which technically cancel the debilitation out but in experience he does not find this to be so). Due to the transits at this time (Saturn) and then my Jupiter/Mars dasa/bhukti period coming up in August of next year.....that that might be a very dangerous time for me. The last time I had a similar period...Mars/Jupiter dasa/bhukti...I had near death experience and went through a couple of years of intense personal problems. Of course, at that time, I was not into vedic...had no idea about these things but now that I DO...I can look back at the dasa's and realize (they fit for me) why certain times were 'worse' than others. He told me about remedial measures and mantra's which I have IMMEDIATELY applied to my life and I can't tell you how much better in just two months...things have improved for me:o) He also stated that because of certain transits, ! > my! > > energy may be lower than usual so to also take it easy etc. The Jupiter/Mars thing also applies to my mother and father who are elderly. Mars at 27 Cancer in the 4th can point to a mother who suffered greatly or with whom one did not get along. My mother has had a horrible life....has suffered tremendously on all levels. Jupiter in the 10th in Cap can also relate to the father and my dad has just been hit with a lot of medical problems for the first time in his life (he is 70...always had the best of health) and he is not psychologically adjusting to it very well. Braha said one can do mantra's FOR another person which I have done as well ...as much as I can before that period occurs for all concerned. If I can help...I will. It certainly won't hurt anything so why not? > > > > Hope this makes sense. I'm just a student that is learning here. > > > > Love and Light... > > > > Renee (Also Larazzza on this list) > > > > >>> akshaya.gupta 07/05/01 06:53AM >>> > > Renee, > > > > What is the relation with Mars at 27 degrees of Cancer and 'lay low'. > > Could you please enlighten me. > > > > ~ akshaya > > > > > > LaRAZZZA [LaRAZZZA] > > Wednesday, July 04, 2001 8:49 PM > > gjlist > > Cc: LaRAZZZA > > Re: [gjlist] Cancer > > > > In a message dated 7/4/01 2:38:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > > natabara writes: > > > > << Keep a low profile and have a good challenging time. > > > > Lots of love > > nATABARA > > >> > > Yeah I know...I had James Braha read my chart recently and he said to > > 'lay > > low' for a couple of years...<LAUGH>. Mantra's here I come! Mars at 27 > > > > Cancer here <sigh> > > > > Renee > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 Dear Kumar, Cancelled in this case actually means mended, by various neecha bhanga.. There are clear evidences in classical texts that when graha is neech in rashi and uchch in navamsa it gives good results, while vice-versa is bad.. That is why debilitation in navamsa is hard to improve..Neecha graha always remains with a neecha dosha, however, when neecha bhanga occurs it gives beneficial results as well. ZODIAC wrote: > Dear Zoran, > > I feel that this is a debatable point. That the deep debilitation of Mars > can > be cancelled ( As you said, it can be mended by various neecha bhanga). > Can you please elaborate? > > Regards > > G Kumar > www.zodiaccomputers.com > > - > <ahimsa > <gjlist> > Friday, July 06, 2001 8:25 AM > Re: [gjlist] Cancer/Akshaya > > > Namaste Renee/Akshaya, > > Mars is the highest neecha at 28th degree, it is true debilitation > > point, where it is considered weak. However, it can be mended by various > > neecha bhanga. The worst position of mars is neecha navamsa where the > > wound is very sore, and remedy hard to get. Navamsa is dharma, and that > > is carried with us from previous life. Guru shani conjuntion is known > > under the name of Brahma Yoga, however Shani is badhakesh in the chart, > > and it carries obstacles. The crucial point is badhakesh navamsa, and > > position of rahu in your chart. However, Guru neecha is excellent for > > material wealth in this case. Also in spite of shani being badhakesh, > > favourable dharmakarmaadhipathy yoga occurs in the chart, givin dutiful, > > industrious and virtuous personality. > > Best wishes, > > Zoran > > > > Renee Serrano wrote: > > > > > "Renee, > > > > > > What is the relation with Mars at 27 degrees of Cancer and 'lay low'. > > > Could you please enlighten me. > > > > > > ~ akshaya > > > > > > Dear Akshaya... > > > > > > Braha felt that my Jupiter/Mars opposition....that both planets are > debilitated even though they exchange exalted signs (which technically > cancel the debilitation out but in experience he does not find this to be > so). Due to the transits at this time (Saturn) and then my Jupiter/Mars > dasa/bhukti period coming up in August of next year.....that that might be a > very dangerous time for me. The last time I had a similar > period...Mars/Jupiter dasa/bhukti...I had near death experience and went > through a couple of years of intense personal problems. Of course, at that > time, I was not into vedic...had no idea about these things but now that I > DO...I can look back at the dasa's and realize (they fit for me) why certain > times were 'worse' than others. He told me about remedial measures and > mantra's which I have IMMEDIATELY applied to my life and I can't tell you > how much better in just two months...things have improved for me:o) He also > stated that because of certain transits, ! > > my! > > > energy may be lower than usual so to also take it easy etc. The > Jupiter/Mars thing also applies to my mother and father who are elderly. > Mars at 27 Cancer in the 4th can point to a mother who suffered greatly or > with whom one did not get along. My mother has had a horrible life....has > suffered tremendously on all levels. Jupiter in the 10th in Cap can also > relate to the father and my dad has just been hit with a lot of medical > problems for the first time in his life (he is 70...always had the best of > health) and he is not psychologically adjusting to it very well. Braha said > one can do mantra's FOR another person which I have done as well ...as much > as I can before that period occurs for all concerned. If I can help...I > will. It certainly won't hurt anything so why not? > > > > > > Hope this makes sense. I'm just a student that is learning here. > > > > > > Love and Light... > > > > > > Renee (Also Larazzza on this list) > > > > > > >>> akshaya.gupta 07/05/01 06:53AM >>> > > > Renee, > > > > > > What is the relation with Mars at 27 degrees of Cancer and 'lay low'. > > > Could you please enlighten me. > > > > > > ~ akshaya > > > > > > > > > LaRAZZZA [LaRAZZZA] > > > Wednesday, July 04, 2001 8:49 PM > > > gjlist > > > Cc: LaRAZZZA > > > Re: [gjlist] Cancer > > > > > > In a message dated 7/4/01 2:38:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > > > natabara writes: > > > > > > << Keep a low profile and have a good challenging time. > > > > > > Lots of love > > > nATABARA > > > >> > > > Yeah I know...I had James Braha read my chart recently and he said to > > > 'lay > > > low' for a couple of years...<LAUGH>. Mantra's here I come! Mars at 27 > > > > > > Cancer here <sigh> > > > > > > Renee > > > > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 Thank you for explaining this. I will study this as best I can as a student and look at my Navamsa chart (right?). Rahu is in Leo in my 5th house with Sun/Moon in 2nd in Taurus (Rohini Moon). Venus on the Lagna...Aries Lagna. Merc in Gem in the 3rd. Thanks again. Renee >>> ahimsa 07/05/01 07:55PM >>> Namaste Renee/Akshaya, Mars is the highest neecha at 28th degree, it is true debilitation point, where it is considered weak. However, it can be mended by various neecha bhanga. The worst position of mars is neecha navamsa where the wound is very sore, and remedy hard to get. Navamsa is dharma, and that is carried with us from previous life. Guru shani conjuntion is known under the name of Brahma Yoga, however Shani is badhakesh in the chart, and it carries obstacles. The crucial point is badhakesh navamsa, and position of rahu in your chart. However, Guru neecha is excellent for material wealth in this case. Also in spite of shani being badhakesh, favourable dharmakarmaadhipathy yoga occurs in the chart, givin dutiful, industrious and virtuous personality. Best wishes, Zoran Renee Serrano wrote: > "Renee, > > What is the relation with Mars at 27 degrees of Cancer and 'lay low'. > Could you please enlighten me. > > ~ akshaya > > Dear Akshaya... > > Braha felt that my Jupiter/Mars opposition....that both planets are debilitated even though they exchange exalted signs (which technically cancel the debilitation out but in experience he does not find this to be so). Due to the transits at this time (Saturn) and then my Jupiter/Mars dasa/bhukti period coming up in August of next year.....that that might be a very dangerous time for me. The last time I had a similar period...Mars/Jupiter dasa/bhukti...I had near death experience and went through a couple of years of intense personal problems. Of course, at that time, I was not into vedic...had no idea about these things but now that I DO...I can look back at the dasa's and realize (they fit for me) why certain times were 'worse' than others. He told me about remedial measures and mantra's which I have IMMEDIATELY applied to my life and I can't tell you how much better in just two months...things have improved for me:o) He also stated that because of certain transits, ! my! > energy may be lower than usual so to also take it easy etc. The Jupiter/Mars thing also applies to my mother and father who are elderly. Mars at 27 Cancer in the 4th can point to a mother who suffered greatly or with whom one did not get along. My mother has had a horrible life....has suffered tremendously on all levels. Jupiter in the 10th in Cap can also relate to the father and my dad has just been hit with a lot of medical problems for the first time in his life (he is 70...always had the best of health) and he is not psychologically adjusting to it very well. Braha said one can do mantra's FOR another person which I have done as well ...as much as I can before that period occurs for all concerned. If I can help...I will. It certainly won't hurt anything so why not? > > Hope this makes sense. I'm just a student that is learning here. > > Love and Light... > > Renee (Also Larazzza on this list) > > >>> akshaya.gupta 07/05/01 06:53AM >>> > Renee, > > What is the relation with Mars at 27 degrees of Cancer and 'lay low'. > Could you please enlighten me. > > ~ akshaya > > > LaRAZZZA [LaRAZZZA] > Wednesday, July 04, 2001 8:49 PM > gjlist > Cc: LaRAZZZA > Re: [gjlist] Cancer > > In a message dated 7/4/01 2:38:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > natabara writes: > > << Keep a low profile and have a good challenging time. > > Lots of love > nATABARA > >> > Yeah I know...I had James Braha read my chart recently and he said to > 'lay > low' for a couple of years...<LAUGH>. Mantra's here I come! Mars at 27 > > Cancer here <sigh> > > Renee > > > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to gjlist- Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2001 Report Share Posted July 7, 2001 Dear Kumar, Cancelled in this case actually means mended, by various neecha bhanga.. There are clear evidences in classical texts that when graha is neech in rashi and uchch in navamsa it gives good results, while vice-versa is bad.. That is why debilitation in navamsa is hard to improve..Neecha graha always remains with a neecha dosha, however, when neecha bhanga occurs it gives beneficial results as well. ZODIAC wrote: > Dear Zoran, > > I feel that this is a debatable point. That the deep debilitation of Mars > can > be cancelled ( As you said, it can be mended by various neecha bhanga). > Can you please elaborate? > > Regards > > G Kumar > www.zodiaccomputers.com > > - > <ahimsa > <gjlist> > Friday, July 06, 2001 8:25 AM > Re: [gjlist] Cancer/Akshaya > > > Namaste Renee/Akshaya, > > Mars is the highest neecha at 28th degree, it is true debilitation > > point, where it is considered weak. However, it can be mended by various > > neecha bhanga. The worst position of mars is neecha navamsa where the > > wound is very sore, and remedy hard to get. Navamsa is dharma, and that > > is carried with us from previous life. Guru shani conjuntion is known > > under the name of Brahma Yoga, however Shani is badhakesh in the chart, > > and it carries obstacles. The crucial point is badhakesh navamsa, and > > position of rahu in your chart. However, Guru neecha is excellent for > > material wealth in this case. Also in spite of shani being badhakesh, > > favourable dharmakarmaadhipathy yoga occurs in the chart, givin dutiful, > > industrious and virtuous personality. > > Best wishes, > > Zoran > > > > Renee Serrano wrote: > > > > > "Renee, > > > > > > What is the relation with Mars at 27 degrees of Cancer and 'lay low'. > > > Could you please enlighten me. > > > > > > ~ akshaya > > > > > > Dear Akshaya... > > > > > > Braha felt that my Jupiter/Mars opposition....that both planets are > debilitated even though they exchange exalted signs (which technically > cancel the debilitation out but in experience he does not find this to be > so). Due to the transits at this time (Saturn) and then my Jupiter/Mars > dasa/bhukti period coming up in August of next year.....that that might be a > very dangerous time for me. The last time I had a similar > period...Mars/Jupiter dasa/bhukti...I had near death experience and went > through a couple of years of intense personal problems. Of course, at that > time, I was not into vedic...had no idea about these things but now that I > DO...I can look back at the dasa's and realize (they fit for me) why certain > times were 'worse' than others. He told me about remedial measures and > mantra's which I have IMMEDIATELY applied to my life and I can't tell you > how much better in just two months...things have improved for me:o) He also > stated that because of certain transits, ! > > my! > > > energy may be lower than usual so to also take it easy etc. The > Jupiter/Mars thing also applies to my mother and father who are elderly. > Mars at 27 Cancer in the 4th can point to a mother who suffered greatly or > with whom one did not get along. My mother has had a horrible life....has > suffered tremendously on all levels. Jupiter in the 10th in Cap can also > relate to the father and my dad has just been hit with a lot of medical > problems for the first time in his life (he is 70...always had the best of > health) and he is not psychologically adjusting to it very well. Braha said > one can do mantra's FOR another person which I have done as well ...as much > as I can before that period occurs for all concerned. If I can help...I > will. It certainly won't hurt anything so why not? > > > > > > Hope this makes sense. I'm just a student that is learning here. > > > > > > Love and Light... > > > > > > Renee (Also Larazzza on this list) > > > > > > >>> akshaya.gupta 07/05/01 06:53AM >>> > > > Renee, > > > > > > What is the relation with Mars at 27 degrees of Cancer and 'lay low'. > > > Could you please enlighten me. > > > > > > ~ akshaya > > > > > > > > > LaRAZZZA [LaRAZZZA] > > > Wednesday, July 04, 2001 8:49 PM > > > gjlist > > > Cc: LaRAZZZA > > > Re: [gjlist] Cancer > > > > > > In a message dated 7/4/01 2:38:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > > > natabara writes: > > > > > > << Keep a low profile and have a good challenging time. > > > > > > Lots of love > > > nATABARA > > > >> > > > Yeah I know...I had James Braha read my chart recently and he said to > > > 'lay > > > low' for a couple of years...<LAUGH>. Mantra's here I come! Mars at 27 > > > > > > Cancer here <sigh> > > > > > > Renee > > > > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2001 Report Share Posted July 7, 2001 Dear Kumar, Cancelled in this case actually means mended, by various neecha bhanga.. There are clear evidences in classical texts that when graha is neech in rashi and uchch in navamsa it gives good results, while vice-versa is bad.. That is why debilitation in navamsa is hard to improve..Neecha graha always remains with a neecha dosha, however, when neecha bhanga occurs it gives beneficial results as well. ZODIAC wrote: > Dear Zoran, > > I feel that this is a debatable point. That the deep debilitation of Mars > can > be cancelled ( As you said, it can be mended by various neecha bhanga). > Can you please elaborate? > > Regards > > G Kumar > www.zodiaccomputers.com > > - > <ahimsa > <gjlist> > Friday, July 06, 2001 8:25 AM > Re: [gjlist] Cancer/Akshaya > > > Namaste Renee/Akshaya, > > Mars is the highest neecha at 28th degree, it is true debilitation > > point, where it is considered weak. However, it can be mended by various > > neecha bhanga. The worst position of mars is neecha navamsa where the > > wound is very sore, and remedy hard to get. Navamsa is dharma, and that > > is carried with us from previous life. Guru shani conjuntion is known > > under the name of Brahma Yoga, however Shani is badhakesh in the chart, > > and it carries obstacles. The crucial point is badhakesh navamsa, and > > position of rahu in your chart. However, Guru neecha is excellent for > > material wealth in this case. Also in spite of shani being badhakesh, > > favourable dharmakarmaadhipathy yoga occurs in the chart, givin dutiful, > > industrious and virtuous personality. > > Best wishes, > > Zoran > > > > Renee Serrano wrote: > > > > > "Renee, > > > > > > What is the relation with Mars at 27 degrees of Cancer and 'lay low'. > > > Could you please enlighten me. > > > > > > ~ akshaya > > > > > > Dear Akshaya... > > > > > > Braha felt that my Jupiter/Mars opposition....that both planets are > debilitated even though they exchange exalted signs (which technically > cancel the debilitation out but in experience he does not find this to be > so). Due to the transits at this time (Saturn) and then my Jupiter/Mars > dasa/bhukti period coming up in August of next year.....that that might be a > very dangerous time for me. The last time I had a similar > period...Mars/Jupiter dasa/bhukti...I had near death experience and went > through a couple of years of intense personal problems. Of course, at that > time, I was not into vedic...had no idea about these things but now that I > DO...I can look back at the dasa's and realize (they fit for me) why certain > times were 'worse' than others. He told me about remedial measures and > mantra's which I have IMMEDIATELY applied to my life and I can't tell you > how much better in just two months...things have improved for me:o) He also > stated that because of certain transits, ! > > my! > > > energy may be lower than usual so to also take it easy etc. The > Jupiter/Mars thing also applies to my mother and father who are elderly. > Mars at 27 Cancer in the 4th can point to a mother who suffered greatly or > with whom one did not get along. My mother has had a horrible life....has > suffered tremendously on all levels. Jupiter in the 10th in Cap can also > relate to the father and my dad has just been hit with a lot of medical > problems for the first time in his life (he is 70...always had the best of > health) and he is not psychologically adjusting to it very well. Braha said > one can do mantra's FOR another person which I have done as well ...as much > as I can before that period occurs for all concerned. If I can help...I > will. It certainly won't hurt anything so why not? > > > > > > Hope this makes sense. I'm just a student that is learning here. > > > > > > Love and Light... > > > > > > Renee (Also Larazzza on this list) > > > > > > >>> akshaya.gupta 07/05/01 06:53AM >>> > > > Renee, > > > > > > What is the relation with Mars at 27 degrees of Cancer and 'lay low'. > > > Could you please enlighten me. > > > > > > ~ akshaya > > > > > > > > > LaRAZZZA [LaRAZZZA] > > > Wednesday, July 04, 2001 8:49 PM > > > gjlist > > > Cc: LaRAZZZA > > > Re: [gjlist] Cancer > > > > > > In a message dated 7/4/01 2:38:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > > > natabara writes: > > > > > > << Keep a low profile and have a good challenging time. > > > > > > Lots of love > > > nATABARA > > > >> > > > Yeah I know...I had James Braha read my chart recently and he said to > > > 'lay > > > low' for a couple of years...<LAUGH>. Mantra's here I come! 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Guest guest Posted July 7, 2001 Report Share Posted July 7, 2001 Dear Zoran, The statements in the classical texts point out that planets at their deep debilitation point has no cancellation. Jupiter in the 5th degree of Capricorn or Mars in the 27th degree of Cancer therefore go without Neechabhanga. Any difference of opionion? Regards, G Kumar www.zodiaccomputers.com - <ahimsa <gjlist> Sunday, July 08, 2001 6:01 AM Re: [gjlist] Cancer/Akshaya > Dear Kumar, > Cancelled in this case actually means mended, by various neecha bhanga.. > There are clear evidences in classical texts that when graha is neech in > rashi > and uchch in navamsa it gives good results, while vice-versa is bad.. > That is why debilitation in navamsa is hard to improve..Neecha graha > always > remains with > a neecha dosha, however, when neecha bhanga occurs it gives beneficial > results > as well. > > ZODIAC wrote: > > > Dear Zoran, > > > > I feel that this is a debatable point. That the deep debilitation of Mars > > can > > be cancelled ( As you said, it can be mended by various neecha bhanga). > > Can you please elaborate? > > > > Regards > > > > G Kumar > > www.zodiaccomputers.com > > > > - > > <ahimsa > > <gjlist> > > Friday, July 06, 2001 8:25 AM > > Re: [gjlist] Cancer/Akshaya > > > > > Namaste Renee/Akshaya, > > > Mars is the highest neecha at 28th degree, it is true debilitation > > > point, where it is considered weak. However, it can be mended by various > > > neecha bhanga. The worst position of mars is neecha navamsa where the > > > wound is very sore, and remedy hard to get. Navamsa is dharma, and that > > > is carried with us from previous life. Guru shani conjuntion is known > > > under the name of Brahma Yoga, however Shani is badhakesh in the chart, > > > and it carries obstacles. The crucial point is badhakesh navamsa, and > > > position of rahu in your chart. However, Guru neecha is excellent for > > > material wealth in this case. Also in spite of shani being badhakesh, > > > favourable dharmakarmaadhipathy yoga occurs in the chart, givin dutiful, > > > industrious and virtuous personality. > > > Best wishes, > > > Zoran > > > > > > Renee Serrano wrote: > > > > > > > "Renee, > > > > > > > > What is the relation with Mars at 27 degrees of Cancer and 'lay low'. > > > > Could you please enlighten me. > > > > > > > > ~ akshaya > > > > > > > > Dear Akshaya... > > > > > > > > Braha felt that my Jupiter/Mars opposition....that both planets are > > debilitated even though they exchange exalted signs (which technically > > cancel the debilitation out but in experience he does not find this to be > > so). Due to the transits at this time (Saturn) and then my Jupiter/Mars > > dasa/bhukti period coming up in August of next year.....that that might be a > > very dangerous time for me. The last time I had a similar > > period...Mars/Jupiter dasa/bhukti...I had near death experience and went > > through a couple of years of intense personal problems. Of course, at that > > time, I was not into vedic...had no idea about these things but now that I > > DO...I can look back at the dasa's and realize (they fit for me) why certain > > times were 'worse' than others. He told me about remedial measures and > > mantra's which I have IMMEDIATELY applied to my life and I can't tell you > > how much better in just two months...things have improved for me:o) He also > > stated that because of certain transits, ! > > > my! > > > > energy may be lower than usual so to also take it easy etc. The > > Jupiter/Mars thing also applies to my mother and father who are elderly. > > Mars at 27 Cancer in the 4th can point to a mother who suffered greatly or > > with whom one did not get along. My mother has had a horrible life....has > > suffered tremendously on all levels. Jupiter in the 10th in Cap can also > > relate to the father and my dad has just been hit with a lot of medical > > problems for the first time in his life (he is 70...always had the best of > > health) and he is not psychologically adjusting to it very well. Braha said > > one can do mantra's FOR another person which I have done as well ...as much > > as I can before that period occurs for all concerned. If I can help...I > > will. It certainly won't hurt anything so why not? > > > > > > > > Hope this makes sense. I'm just a student that is learning here. > > > > > > > > Love and Light... > > > > > > > > Renee (Also Larazzza on this list) > > > > > > > > >>> akshaya.gupta 07/05/01 06:53AM >>> > > > > Renee, > > > > > > > > What is the relation with Mars at 27 degrees of Cancer and 'lay low'. > > > > Could you please enlighten me. > > > > > > > > ~ akshaya > > > > > > > > > > > > LaRAZZZA [LaRAZZZA] > > > > Wednesday, July 04, 2001 8:49 PM > > > > gjlist > > > > Cc: LaRAZZZA > > > > Re: [gjlist] Cancer > > > > > > > > In a message dated 7/4/01 2:38:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > natabara writes: > > > > > > > > << Keep a low profile and have a good challenging time. > > > > > > > > Lots of love > > > > nATABARA > > > > >> > > > > Yeah I know...I had James Braha read my chart recently and he said to > > > > 'lay > > > > low' for a couple of years...<LAUGH>. Mantra's here I come! 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Guest guest Posted July 8, 2001 Report Share Posted July 8, 2001 Dear Kumar, The highest neecha point is very bad. It will certainly severely damage graha on the level of its karakatwa, adhipatya and position. However, neecha bhanga yoga would give on the other hand beneficial results, irrespective of graha being in its highest neecha or not. If neecha bhanga occurs at yogkarak it will surely give raj yog effects. Neecha dosha usually gets manifested at sociaological and physiological levels of significations.. Best wishes, Zoran Zodiac Astrology wrote: > Dear Zoran, > > The statements in the classical texts point out that planets at their deep > debilitation > point has no cancellation. Jupiter in the 5th degree of Capricorn or Mars in > the 27th degree > of Cancer therefore go without Neechabhanga. Any difference of opionion? > > Regards, > > G Kumar > www.zodiaccomputers.com > > - > <ahimsa > <gjlist> > Sunday, July 08, 2001 6:01 AM > Re: [gjlist] Cancer/Akshaya > > > Dear Kumar, > > Cancelled in this case actually means mended, by various neecha bhanga.. > > There are clear evidences in classical texts that when graha is neech in > > rashi > > and uchch in navamsa it gives good results, while vice-versa is bad.. > > That is why debilitation in navamsa is hard to improve..Neecha graha > > always > > remains with > > a neecha dosha, however, when neecha bhanga occurs it gives beneficial > > results > > as well. > > > > ZODIAC wrote: > > > > > Dear Zoran, > > > > > > I feel that this is a debatable point. That the deep debilitation of > Mars > > > can > > > be cancelled ( As you said, it can be mended by various neecha bhanga). > > > Can you please elaborate? > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > G Kumar > > > www.zodiaccomputers.com > > > > > > - > > > <ahimsa > > > <gjlist> > > > Friday, July 06, 2001 8:25 AM > > > Re: [gjlist] Cancer/Akshaya > > > > > > > Namaste Renee/Akshaya, > > > > Mars is the highest neecha at 28th degree, it is true debilitation > > > > point, where it is considered weak. However, it can be mended by > various > > > > neecha bhanga. The worst position of mars is neecha navamsa where the > > > > wound is very sore, and remedy hard to get. Navamsa is dharma, and > that > > > > is carried with us from previous life. Guru shani conjuntion is known > > > > under the name of Brahma Yoga, however Shani is badhakesh in the > chart, > > > > and it carries obstacles. The crucial point is badhakesh navamsa, and > > > > position of rahu in your chart. However, Guru neecha is excellent for > > > > material wealth in this case. Also in spite of shani being badhakesh, > > > > favourable dharmakarmaadhipathy yoga occurs in the chart, givin > dutiful, > > > > industrious and virtuous personality. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Zoran > > > > > > > > Renee Serrano wrote: > > > > > > > > > "Renee, > > > > > > > > > > What is the relation with Mars at 27 degrees of Cancer and 'lay > low'. > > > > > Could you please enlighten me. > > > > > > > > > > ~ akshaya > > > > > > > > > > Dear Akshaya... > > > > > > > > > > Braha felt that my Jupiter/Mars opposition....that both planets are > > > debilitated even though they exchange exalted signs (which technically > > > cancel the debilitation out but in experience he does not find this to > be > > > so). Due to the transits at this time (Saturn) and then my Jupiter/Mars > > > dasa/bhukti period coming up in August of next year.....that that might > be a > > > very dangerous time for me. The last time I had a similar > > > period...Mars/Jupiter dasa/bhukti...I had near death experience and went > > > through a couple of years of intense personal problems. Of course, at > that > > > time, I was not into vedic...had no idea about these things but now that > I > > > DO...I can look back at the dasa's and realize (they fit for me) why > certain > > > times were 'worse' than others. He told me about remedial measures and > > > mantra's which I have IMMEDIATELY applied to my life and I can't tell > you > > > how much better in just two months...things have improved for me:o) He > also > > > stated that because of certain transits, ! > > > > my! > > > > > energy may be lower than usual so to also take it easy etc. The > > > Jupiter/Mars thing also applies to my mother and father who are elderly. > > > Mars at 27 Cancer in the 4th can point to a mother who suffered greatly > or > > > with whom one did not get along. My mother has had a horrible > life....has > > > suffered tremendously on all levels. Jupiter in the 10th in Cap can > also > > > relate to the father and my dad has just been hit with a lot of medical > > > problems for the first time in his life (he is 70...always had the best > of > > > health) and he is not psychologically adjusting to it very well. Braha > said > > > one can do mantra's FOR another person which I have done as well ...as > much > > > as I can before that period occurs for all concerned. If I can help...I > > > will. It certainly won't hurt anything so why not? > > > > > > > > > > Hope this makes sense. I'm just a student that is learning here. > > > > > > > > > > Love and Light... > > > > > > > > > > Renee (Also Larazzza on this list) > > > > > > > > > > >>> akshaya.gupta 07/05/01 06:53AM >>> > > > > > Renee, > > > > > > > > > > What is the relation with Mars at 27 degrees of Cancer and 'lay > low'. > > > > > Could you please enlighten me. > > > > > > > > > > ~ akshaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LaRAZZZA [LaRAZZZA] > > > > > Wednesday, July 04, 2001 8:49 PM > > > > > gjlist > > > > > Cc: LaRAZZZA > > > > > Re: [gjlist] Cancer > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 7/4/01 2:38:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > > > > > natabara writes: > > > > > > > > > > << Keep a low profile and have a good challenging time. > > > > > > > > > > Lots of love > > > > > nATABARA > > > > > >> > > > > > Yeah I know...I had James Braha read my chart recently and he said > to > > > > > 'lay > > > > > low' for a couple of years...<LAUGH>. Mantra's here I come! 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