Guest guest Posted July 3, 2001 Report Share Posted July 3, 2001 Hi friend’s I like to share my view’s, I am member of list from some time, and share some thoughts of other list members. I want to give attention on remedial astrology, I request all dedicated list members to share thoughts on remedial astrology and make a software/book on remedial astrology, only practical and tested formulas should be given in the prospective software/book. I think this is not a job of single astrologer, there should be a sharing at world level is required. By doing this we can help generations and a proper place for astrology like medical or engineering science. If great scientists not shared their views our life scenario is somewhat different. I don’t know but secrecy is always connected with astrology. If a person gains a knowledge by spending whole life and don’t share his/her knowledge/experience with world it’s a great loss, another person may get that knowledge is short time and increased from the point other left. A new e-group may be started on this topic only. I think calculation is important and many software’s are developed in this field, and there are chances for improvement, but remedial measure are more important because calculation’s are of no use in absence of remedies, Now present situation is We know about disease We know the reason’s about the disease On remedies we are not very much sure of difference of opinion Regard’s Yogesh yogash verma e-mail: bablu --\ ------------------ Chat & romance for that extra sizzle. Bharatnet.com - The hottest chat rooms( Hamesha Housefull ) Subscribe to free email service on Bharatnet. mail.bharatnet.com --\ ------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2001 Report Share Posted July 3, 2001 Das- If you want to be in the movie, submit a sort of letter showing how you might envision that part you applied for...you know, the lamenting scientist thing... Thanks, John Dough -------------------------- In response to Yogesh Verma: I personally gave alot to Jyotish starting in 93 writing GJ. I put into it a system which is pretty serious, of tagging the information contained in charts and outputting/sorting those tags between groups of charts in an effort to find the patterns of shared data between charts of persons sharing something in life. It's "find and seek the patterns". Very few have ever used or written about this. Even "big people" never mentioned it, though I know for sure they have nothing close to this from another program to do the same thing, besides, any serious worker would use both if PL's similar thing appealed. Anyway, the point is, I was incredibly let down so far by the response to this and other things from the Jyotish world. Basically, I realized the hard way, there is no established older brothers or sisters who were gonna come welcome me to "the fold". There was no fold. There was no elders. There's a few senior astrologers, but they don't have all that much going on. In Delhi there's a few schools, and one, Sanjay's, reaches out across the net. Still, I thought I'd be on Oprah by now (a big TV show in America), showing the results of our computer stuff...blind tests, telling people closely when they got married, or whatever. I think it's possible. Proving that Jyotish works is itself the biggest most important thing to be done on Earth. Proving that Jyotish works on many things closely. Finding the way to do it with the help of computers (I think) which works alot, really well. To this end I've sent out letters and not even heard echoes. I described internet tied systems with a central data server- users uploading their chart data with events gathered in the field from real people with good looking birth certificate birth data, and so on, and a central system crunching away on classifying all events by all means, different dashas, transits, everything we can think of, the computer is examining, classifying, categorizing, etc. I even had extensive talks (on my own dime) with programmers of Smart software systems, the kind of AI stuff where it goes in looking for patters by itself. To my great chegrin, not only has nobody responded, but my past so called girlfriend didn't even care, except to say "go for it big guy", and then shes off to tootoo lala land like a fairy bitch. Her disinterest hurt alot. Then folks like the David's, Deepaks, and Maharishis of the world didn't write, care, fund, talk, nothing, was very dissapointing. I see enthusiasm to make money off the science the way it is now, but advancing the science for real, no. I don't see that. KN Rao often talks of research and probably does some. That alone I applaud. Rehashing and selling the same old crap to a captive audience is not interesting. I find this world utterly dissapointing. So, when I realized at the Sedona conference in 2000, that all the kings and queens of Jyotish present there were more there to socialize than to look at GJ3, which yes, I was showing, and which had enough done to show in Jan of 2000, I literally collapsed, wrote a scathing letter to the world, and entered severe depression (not that I wanted to). Andrew Foss told me I should be a movie star instead. He was probably right. I'm still trying to get out of the depression that seemed to descend like bricks at that last conference. The sewer sprung a leak right in front of the conference doors, filling the hall with human shit stench. I found it omenous. So, if you think a letter to this list will do much, you're sorely mistaken. There are many well meaning persons, but none able or willing to do anything really serious unless somebody else funds it and does the main stuff. So a letter is nice, but won't do a thing. 500 are here in attendence, according to the registration records, but I notice only 20 or so ever write anything, and about 3 keep it rolling. You'll have to do all the main stuff yourself, or pay someone. That's my experience. I think proving Jyotish works is the most important thing to do because it fully changes the worlds paradigm completely. I know none of us want to accept that karma is in control, but folks, don't you agree- seems it is. How many of you can snap your fingers and have what you want without waiting? Think of it. None! But Karma gets what it wants all the time. I'd say He's boss. Then it's readable- his lines are rehearsed! The script is there in Plankrit- that's planetary sanskrit. We're learning to read Grahali - that's Graha Bengali! I labored so hard, tried so hard to attract attention to my cause, and thought that surely some benevolent Indian kazillionaire would approach me to support the cause, help me out, as I've been pushing so hard since I was 12, working constantly in life. Kindof tired. The only rich Indian who ever approached me already owns alot of PL my competitor, and wanted to buy me out too, for control, for selling gems, his business, not doing medical research, which would be my favorite. Dr Charak wrote some good books. I had hope. But I don't hear much from him. Guess he's busy being a doctor. Plus, he took more to PL people and so on. Many of the biggees ignored me and used PL. They would hang at his booth at the conferences. PL sold out, and now empowers websites for the funds, I think under the sway of Mr Big Jaipur Gem Walla. That's my take. I don't see the virtue mode I would prefer for myself..."start making money today" it said on one page on a PL run website...that's one use of Jyotish. I make my living off it, yes, but I could make a better living and have much more fun being a male prostitute. I prefer doing something more virtuous and better for the future, but getting older, not wealthy enough to even dream about ever retiring at all ever, scared about decreasing energy cuzz I ride the oblivion line like most working Americans...life's a trip and scarry to boot eh? Oh well, betterthan being raped in Kosovo...or dieing from AIDS in Ghana. I'm very surprised by what has gone down. After all who know me and have met me, know about my work, I'm very surprised by what is not. A number of actors and politicians, rich business people, etc., but nobody cares to like really fund or help launch a serious research project. I mean serious- like for example, someone donates, like $200. OK great, but now I gotta like get an account, do accounting, hold onto that, try to build it from others, it's more work with no results. Anything real wouldn't start until about $5K. With $5K I could pay a coder to set up the central data server for me. That would be a help. With another $5K to $20K I could have a coder write all the still needed parts for sharing data with events and crunching it and so on. Sure, I could do it all by myself, but there goes my life, again, for some more years, and remember, I've been waiting to take time off just to travel and try to find a real wife, at 41, I deserve that, I don't want to martyr and monk-out more for this. I want a wife and a life. But Jyotish should be proven, and NOW, not some time later by somebody else. Maharishi- hah, money money build build. Why don't they, the big cheese, do something other than business for once. My friend just got letters from their MASSIVE attorney office saying that in 1989 they TM'd (that's TradeMark-a not surprising pun) the words VATTA PITTA and KAPHA in connection with "TEA". In other words, you cannot say "Tea for Vatta" without THEIR APPROVAL... Can you Fu**ing BELIEVE THAT !!!! Instead of working for the world, they're tieing it up in LAW They're gonna hold the FU**cking COPYRIGHT ON VEDA if they can...very profitable. I suppose soon we'll have to ask their permission to print "JYOTISH SOFTWARE" most likely, or how about "JYOTISH READINGS", they'll probably do that one too. My friend, Laksman, who's been selling Dosha teas longer than they've been by far now has to kiss their little butts asking "pretty please" just to sell his teas, which are better than theirs...and a totally serious attempt at dosha balancing, very fresh, potent, real, tasty. All's I can say is "dissapointing". Dissapointing. Overall. Alone, work, wait, nothing. Story of my life. Yogesh, your letter reminds me of me 8 years ago when I thought somebody active enough to matter was listening. They're not. Nice try. --------------- Now folks, you gotta admit, I "do a good victim" don't I ;-) This has been submitted to the actors guild for approval. If accepted, I get a part in an upcoming movie as an unappreciated scientist who rants and raves about everyone elses insincerity, while just sitting around dreaming... Let's see, I slammed everyone in my life, close and far, put myself up as some sort of martyr hero, and lastly, hmmmm, anything missing...hmmm.... --------------- PEACE AND LOVE !!!!!!!! Raghu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2001 Report Share Posted July 3, 2001 Dear Das, I can well understand your sentiments below but perhaps their motivation was geared more towards protecting the gullible consumer from unscrupulous people peddling anything and everything off as VATA, PITTA or KAPHA tea. If it was flavoured artificially to resemble the real thing how would the general public ever know the difference. I'm not saying there aren't genuine people out there who have a legitimate right to sell authentic dosha products. It's the double edged sword I guess...whenever you attempt to protect the rights of one group you automatically infringe upon the rights of another. The consequences of Trade Mark(ing) certain products can be unfortunate for some, but I think (I hope) that the motivation may not be as sinister as your post suggests. Regards, Wendy > Maharishi- hah, money money build build. Why don't they, the big cheese, > do something other than business for once. My friend just got letters > from their MASSIVE attorney office saying that in 1989 they TM'd (that's > TradeMark-a not surprising pun) the words VATTA PITTA and KAPHA in > connection with "TEA". > > In other words, you cannot say "Tea for Vatta" without THEIR APPROVAL... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2001 Report Share Posted July 3, 2001 Dear Das, I haven't got this e-mail of yours, but I do get some e-mails from list members, for instance I got Wendy's reply to yours. How can that happen? Besides, I had some experiences with TM-people which confirm your impression that they are VERY interested in money, money, money only! Regards and love, Liliana >"Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas >gjlist ><gjlist> >Re: [gjlist] Progress in Astrology >Wed, 4 Jul 2001 02:17:19 +0800 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [64.211.240.236] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBD0B57AE001F4004389C40D3F0EC510325; Tue, 03 Jul 2001 11:20:35 -0700 >Received: from [10.1.4.55] by ho. with NNFMP; 03 Jul 2001 >18:17:17 -0000 >Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 3 Jul 2001 18:17:16 -0000 >Received: (qmail 54562 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2001 18:17:11 -0000 >Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9. with QMQP; 3 Jul 2001 >18:17:11 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO mail005.syd.optusnet.com.au) (203.2.75.229) by >mta2 with SMTP; 3 Jul 2001 18:17:10 -0000 >Received: from wenvas (perax1-242.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.75.242]) >by mail005.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f63IH7Q25350 >for <gjlist>; Wed, 4 Jul 2001 04:17:08 +1000 >From sentto-490438-6217-994184237-astrolila Tue, 03 Jul 2001 11:20:50 -0700 >X-eGroups-Return: >sentto-490438-6217-994184237-astrolila=hotmail.com (AT) returns (DOT) >X-Sender: wenvas >X-Apparently-gjlist >Message-ID: <000501c103ec$66b6b660$f24b8ec6@wenvas> >References: <200107031000.FAA28002 ><3B4200A9.4D230316 >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 >Mailing-List: list gjlist; contact >gjlist-owner >Delivered-mailing list gjlist >Precedence: bulk >List-Un: <gjlist> > >Dear Das, > >I can well understand your sentiments below but perhaps their motivation >was >geared more towards protecting the gullible consumer from unscrupulous >people peddling anything and everything off as VATA, PITTA or KAPHA tea. If >it was flavoured artificially to resemble the real thing how would the >general public ever know the difference. > >I'm not saying there aren't genuine people out there who have a legitimate >right to sell authentic dosha products. It's the double edged sword I >guess...whenever you attempt to protect the rights of one group you >automatically infringe upon the rights of another. > >The consequences of Trade Mark(ing) certain products can be unfortunate for >some, but I think (I hope) that the motivation may not be as sinister as >your post suggests. > >Regards, Wendy > > > > > Maharishi- hah, money money build build. Why don't they, the big cheese, > > do something other than business for once. My friend just got letters > > from their MASSIVE attorney office saying that in 1989 they TM'd (that's > > TradeMark-a not surprising pun) the words VATTA PITTA and KAPHA in > > connection with "TEA". > > > > In other words, you cannot say "Tea for Vatta" without THEIR APPROVAL... > > > >gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2001 Report Share Posted July 3, 2001 Dear Liliana, Das spontaneously gave vent to his feelings, which is very much his way at this point in his life...I understand this and am not at all offended by his outburst. But let's not jump on the bandwagon and start lambasting TM. There are many TM'ers who might take exception to this. I agree with the many who complain about the money factor...it's a sore point with many people (myself included), but I have to say that the most profound religious experiences I've ever had have been on TM retreats. For being the one most directly responsible for my own spiritual growth, I can never thank Maharishi enough...so please let's not get into negative rallies regarding the TM movement. Regards, Wendy > Besides, I had some experiences with TM-people which confirm your impression > that they are VERY interested in money, money, money only! > > Regards and love, > Liliana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2001 Report Share Posted July 3, 2001 Dear Wendy ~ I, for one, appreciate all commentary that is shared on this list whether I agree with the content or not. So please, lets continue to express ourselves according to our own conscience. Respectfully ~ Chandra ~ you wrote: >Dear Liliana, > >Das spontaneously gave vent to his feelings, which is very much his way at >this point in his life...I understand this and am not at all offended by his >outburst. But let's not jump on the bandwagon and start lambasting TM. There >are many TM'ers who might take exception to this. > >I agree with the many who complain about the money factor...it's a sore >point with many people (myself included), but I have to say that the most >profound religious experiences I've ever had have been on TM retreats. > >For being the one most directly responsible for my own spiritual growth, I >can never thank Maharishi enough...so please let's not get into negative >rallies regarding the TM movement. > >Regards, Wendy > > > > > Besides, I had some experiences with TM-people which confirm your >impression > > that they are VERY interested in money, money, money only! > > > > Regards and love, > > Liliana > > > >gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2001 Report Share Posted July 3, 2001 Dear Wendy, I agree with you totally here. I was a TM teacher and I found that Maharshi is doing a great job, giving a technique for generating higher states of Consciousness. His role in disseminating Vedic Wisdom is commendable. Whatever be the negative aspect - there are allegations that it is highly commercialised - it is because of such people that the world knows about Transcendental and Cosmic Consciousnes. Regards, G Kumar www.zodiaccomputers.com - Wendy Vasicek <wenvas <gjlist> Wednesday, July 04, 2001 9:25 AM Re: [gjlist] Progress in Astrology > Dear Liliana, > > Das spontaneously gave vent to his feelings, which is very much his way at > this point in his life...I understand this and am not at all offended by his > outburst. But let's not jump on the bandwagon and start lambasting TM. There > are many TM'ers who might take exception to this. > > I agree with the many who complain about the money factor...it's a sore > point with many people (myself included), but I have to say that the most > profound religious experiences I've ever had have been on TM retreats. > > For being the one most directly responsible for my own spiritual growth, I > can never thank Maharishi enough...so please let's not get into negative > rallies regarding the TM movement. > > Regards, Wendy > > > > > Besides, I had some experiences with TM-people which confirm your > impression > > that they are VERY interested in money, money, money only! > > > > Regards and love, > > Liliana > > > > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2001 Report Share Posted July 4, 2001 While I am not 100% sure of what was meant by "TM-people"...but if you re-read Das's message and then the message that caused some controversy, you can see that "TM-people" is referring to Trade Mark People.....(my guess anyway) But interesting how we jump to conclusions so easily isn't it? Scott MacDonald scottmd1 248.212.7588 ZODIAC [zodiac] Wednesday, July 04, 2001 1:19 AM gjlist Re: [gjlist] Progress in Astrology Dear Wendy, I agree with you totally here. I was a TM teacher and I found that Maharshi is doing a great job, giving a technique for generating higher states of Consciousness. His role in disseminating Vedic Wisdom is commendable. Whatever be the negative aspect - there are allegations that it is highly commercialised - it is because of such people that the world knows about Transcendental and Cosmic Consciousnes. Regards, G Kumar www.zodiaccomputers.com - Wendy Vasicek <wenvas <gjlist> Wednesday, July 04, 2001 9:25 AM Re: [gjlist] Progress in Astrology > Dear Liliana, > > Das spontaneously gave vent to his feelings, which is very much his way at > this point in his life...I understand this and am not at all offended by his > outburst. But let's not jump on the bandwagon and start lambasting TM. There > are many TM'ers who might take exception to this. > > I agree with the many who complain about the money factor...it's a sore > point with many people (myself included), but I have to say that the most > profound religious experiences I've ever had have been on TM retreats. > > For being the one most directly responsible for my own spiritual growth, I > can never thank Maharishi enough...so please let's not get into negative > rallies regarding the TM movement. > > Regards, Wendy > > > > > Besides, I had some experiences with TM-people which confirm your > impression > > that they are VERY interested in money, money, money only! > > > > Regards and love, > > Liliana > > > > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > gjlist- Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2001 Report Share Posted July 4, 2001 Very Interesting Post...lambasting someone for expressing their own conscience (Wendy) yet telling everyone to continue to express their own conscience.... kind of ironic isn't it? Dear Wendy ~ I, for one, appreciate all commentary that is shared on this list whether I agree with the content or not. So please, lets continue to express ourselves according to our own conscience. Respectfully ~ Chandra ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2001 Report Share Posted July 4, 2001 Dear members, Every time in our mind something is going on. I think the vibration of mind catch the same frequency, I am watching the responses in list only shri. Das ji comments, other members also comment on Das ji’s comments. We all are selfish, to spend life I think we have to be selfish. But we must know our responsibilities for our next generations. I know very less about shri. Das ji. By his response I know what a big sacrifice he done and create a huge, accurate and wonderful software for beginners as well as professional’s. Some other people also come and join in the making of remedial astrology more logical, the thing’s which prove beneficial must be recorded and used for the service of humanity. The service may be paid for rich people but poor people also have a … It’s my humble request, I am not a master…. Regard’s Yogesh --\ ------------------ Chat & romance for that extra sizzle. Bharatnet.com - The hottest chat rooms( Hamesha Housefull ) Subscribe to free email service on Bharatnet. mail.bharatnet.com --\ ------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2001 Report Share Posted July 4, 2001 Hello Scott, Not to get caught up in yet another controversy here, but no hasty conclusion had been drawn. Das was expressing his anger over the fact that the T.M. (movement's) attorney office had notified his friend that (such & such) had been TM'd...etc...... Liliana's post was also directed to TM-people...not TradeMark as you assume. This you would have realised if you'd read some earlier posts (some time back)...which I let pass without any comment. Don't get me wrong, I'm not upset or wounded by these short-sighted comments...they don't change what I KNOW to be true. But there may well be others who aren't aware of the positive side of T.M...it's for this reason that I felt it necessary to speak out and not because I (personally) felt wounded in any way. The previous posts about the Nadi Shastra is a good example of the point I'm trying to make. Many years ago I read, with fascination, about these palm leaf predictions, but shortly after I also read a very negative article saying that these palm leaves were fakes...I lost interest and decided it was all just so much nonsense...sad! So people are definitely influenced when they read negative things about certain traditions. It was for this reason I spoke out and not because of any personal anger towards Das or Liliana. I do agree with you though Scott...it is indeed interesting how we jump to conclusions so easily :-) Regards, Wendy > While I am not 100% sure of what was meant by "TM-people"...but if you > re-read Das's message and then the message that caused some controversy, you > can see that "TM-people" is referring to Trade Mark People.....(my guess > anyway) > > But interesting how we jump to conclusions so easily isn't it? > > Scott MacDonald > scottmd1 > 248.212.7588 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2001 Report Share Posted July 5, 2001 Dear Das, You are right in many ways. Today astrology is the most profitable business around the world. But you mentioned about research and Shri K.N. Rao. May I remind you that today in India, he is the only one, who has not only undertaken researches in astrology but has encouraged others too. Charak's first book on Varshphala was again a result of that. Rest of the books, I wont say anything. You mentioned Shri K.N. Rao, Dr. Charak, Jaipur Gem Walla but you forgot Jhanji and Rath. Was it a slip or any special affection. Maharishi institute recruits astrologers from India on paltry sums and then take them abroad to do astrological readings at their institutes. Majority of the persons out there today are only to make money and they use lists like yours to advance their clientele. Kavachas, Gems, Talismans and what not is being sold in the name of remedy in te hope of making big money, but what these people do not realise is that sooner or later, their Karmas would catch up with them. Best wishes and keep doing your work as Gita propounds. Manoj _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 Hello dear brother Raghu, Please accept my most humble obeisances. Sorry for so long silence: I simply had to pass terrible exams, needed for Ph.D. I fully share your mentality and estimation of situation in Vedic Astrology now. Your really have done a great amount of hard labour for development of your unique software. While reading your letter I remembered, that in one Raman's book there is a statement, that work on calculating panchangas (and possibly programming astrology) can hardly make someone happy in family life. See quotation from Raman's "My Experience in Astrology" (p. 20) >My studies in astronomy progressed fairly well covering >madhyamadhikara (mean motions), spashtaahikara (true places) and >triprasnadhikara (direction, place and time) in Surya Siddhanta. > >These chapters covered also such details as chaya (shadow), >bhuja (equinoctial distance), calculation of tithi, yoga, >Karana, etc. When we reached suryagrahanadhyaya (solar eclipse), >the study had to be curtailed for the reason that grandfather >took strong objection to what he called my "meddling" >with the planets. He said, those who probed into these secrets >would eventually become most unfortunate losing their wives and >children and that grihasthas (family people) should not compute >panchangas. > And also: >When the late Mr. L. Narain Rao, author of "Perpetual >Ephemeris", met me in 1942 or so he endorsed grandfather's >opinion that panchanga calculations should not be done by >householders. He cited his own case that he was childless as he >had done a lot of 'probing' into the planetary movements. Many >beliefs such as this, held by a section of the educated public, >cannot of course be given credence. But, it has been within my >knowledge that some of the astronomers, whose sole profession >was panchanga calculation, have met with serious calamities, >besides suffering poverty. As I know, you are not satisfied with your current family situation? Can I possibly halp you in this regard? Any way you can simply visit Vladivostok for variety of life, if you will ever have such desire. As for me, as you know I also have an experience of programming astrology and, more generally mathematical physics tasks. And, although I'm married during last 9 years, my family life is not an ocean of joy. So above quotation seemed to be true in my case also. What do you think about this? May be there is some radical remedy of this situation, or a programmer of planets motions deemed to have bad karma on his head? Best regards, Sergey Kozitskiy (Saunaka Rsi das) skozi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 Dear Sergey, While appreciating the contribution of Prof B V Raman to Astrology, I beg to differ about this opinion. If Astronomy and Astrology are sciences, why should Misfortune catch the astronomer or the calculator of Ephemeris? Can the same be said about people who indulge in Chemistry and Biology ? Dont you think that Astronomy and Astrology are sciences like Physics and Biology? My experience is different. After I developed my s/w no unluck had visited me. In fact I am happier than anybody after the development of my program. Regards, G Kumar Vedic Astrologer www.zodiaccomputers.com - Sergey <skozi <gjlist> Friday, July 06, 2001 12:26 PM Re: [gjlist] Progress in Astrology > Hello dear brother Raghu, > > Please accept my most humble obeisances. > Sorry for so long silence: I simply had to pass > terrible exams, needed for Ph.D. > > I fully share your mentality and estimation of situation in > Vedic Astrology now. Your really have done a great amount > of hard labour for development of your unique software. > > While reading your letter I remembered, that in one Raman's > book there is a statement, that work on calculating > panchangas (and possibly programming astrology) > can hardly make someone happy in family life. > > See quotation from Raman's "My Experience in Astrology" (p. 20) > >My studies in astronomy progressed fairly well covering > >madhyamadhikara (mean motions), spashtaahikara (true places) and > >triprasnadhikara (direction, place and time) in Surya Siddhanta. > > > >These chapters covered also such details as chaya (shadow), > >bhuja (equinoctial distance), calculation of tithi, yoga, > >Karana, etc. When we reached suryagrahanadhyaya (solar eclipse), > >the study had to be curtailed for the reason that grandfather > >took strong objection to what he called my "meddling" > >with the planets. He said, those who probed into these secrets > >would eventually become most unfortunate losing their wives and > >children and that grihasthas (family people) should not compute > >panchangas. > > > And also: > >When the late Mr. L. Narain Rao, author of "Perpetual > >Ephemeris", met me in 1942 or so he endorsed grandfather's > >opinion that panchanga calculations should not be done by > >householders. He cited his own case that he was childless as he > >had done a lot of 'probing' into the planetary movements. Many > >beliefs such as this, held by a section of the educated public, > >cannot of course be given credence. But, it has been within my > >knowledge that some of the astronomers, whose sole profession > >was panchanga calculation, have met with serious calamities, > >besides suffering poverty. > As I know, you are not satisfied with your current family > situation? Can I possibly halp you in this regard? > Any way you can simply visit Vladivostok for variety > of life, if you will ever have such desire. > > As for me, as you know I also have an experience of > programming astrology and, more generally mathematical > physics tasks. And, although I'm married during last 9 years, > my family life is not an ocean of joy. > So above quotation seemed to be true in my case also. > What do you think about this? > > May be there is some radical remedy of this situation, > or a programmer of planets motions deemed to have bad > karma on his head? > > Best regards, > Sergey Kozitskiy (Saunaka Rsi das) skozi > > > > > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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