Guest guest Posted June 24, 2001 Report Share Posted June 24, 2001 Om Krsnaaya Namah Hi Everybody, I haven't been able to keep up with the list mail for a few days but I went through the archives, and discovered I failed miserably on Quiz Four. Very Humbling to fail twice :-) But I couldn't find the answers to Quiz three, nor a new quiz five. So if these have been posted and anyone has them, please forward them to me. And if not, Donna, please post the answer - we're (or at least I'm) dying to know. Many thanks, Pursottam _______ Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2001 Report Share Posted June 25, 2001 Pursottam: As far as I know, answers to quiz 3 have not been posted and I'm not sure what you mean by quiz 5. Ilona's? I'm wondering what you think of the answers to quiz 3 now that you know them. You're a Jaimini sort of fellow, how do you make sense of, say, the marriage date of Feb 14 1968? And how do you make sense of navamsha? I'd just like to generate some discussion about these things. So far, nobody's interested, in particular, the Rectifiers. Chris It's a bit At 11:44 PM 6/24/01 +0100, you wrote: >Om Krsnaaya Namah > >Hi Everybody, > >I haven't been able to keep up with the list mail for a few days but I went >through the archives, and discovered I failed miserably on Quiz Four. Very >Humbling to fail twice :-) But I couldn't find the answers to Quiz three, >nor a new quiz five. So if these have been posted and anyone has them, >please forward them to me. And if not, Donna, please post the answer - we're >(or at least I'm) dying to know. > >Many thanks, > >Pursottam > > >_______ > >Get your free @ address at > > > >gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2001 Report Share Posted June 25, 2001 Om Krsnaaya Namah Hey Chris! Thanks for your reply. By Quiz Five, I was just wondering if another quiz had yet been posted, but I take it from your mail that it hasn't. This is a strange chart in one sense to say the least. Perhaps it does provide evidence to suggest that in timing an event accurately, an accurate and relevant varga chart is more illustrative than the rasi (oops, did I just say that?...I hope the anti-varga police don't give chase). After all, I think it would be true to say that if the navamsa had been considered as the rasi in this case, Mercury would have been seen by most as a strong possibility. Even in looking at Mercury from the chandra lagna, no real link between Mercury and the relationship factors is made, except the aspect from seventh lord Jupiter. But this is not enough, IMHO, to give an event as major as marriage. Based on what you've told us, I do believe the pisces ascendant navamsa to be accurate for the following reasons: 1. Marriage in Mercury bhukti is seen by seventh Lord Mercury in his own seventh, associated with karaka Venus. 2. Death of her husband is reflected through the eighth lord being debilitated in the seventh in association with the seventh lord. This is exacerbated by Ketu's presence, for the nodes being in the navamsa seventh almost always seem to cause marital problems. 3. Foreign residence is seen through the fact that Lagna Lord Jupiter is in the twelfth aspected by the ninth (co-)lord Mars, while Rahu (karaka and twelfth (co-) lord) occupies the ascendant, and is aspected by seventh Lord Mercury, and ninth (co-) lord Mars. As regards Jaimini stuff... I don't particularly consider the subset of techniques popularly called "Jaimini astrology", to really be something different from "Parasari astrology", for a variety of reasons the most important of which is the fact that most of Jaimini techniques are elaborations of what has already been discussed in BPHS. In fact there are certain bits of "Jaimini astrology" that Parasara covers in greater detail than Jaimini himself! And the idea that these were later injected into the BPHS does not seem particularly realistic for a number of reasons. It is however true that the literature available on these techniques is extremely limited and as such, not much research has been carried out on these techniques. It is therefore probably better to integrate them with "normal" Parasari techniques, rather than to use them in isolation, until one is really confident in their use. And I am by no means anywhere near that level of confidence. But, the rasi dasas at the time of marriage are quite interesting to see. Here I offer a hindsight analysis of the two which are probably best known: 1. Chara Dasa This is probably the most well known rasi dasa and despite it's popularity, there are a number of controversies in it's calculation. I generally stick to the method presented in the BPHS, or at least my understanding of it. Sri K.N.Rao also teaches a slightly different method, that does however deviate slightly from classical teachings. In any case both seem to work in general, and as such one can experiment to find their own preference. The only other thing with this dasa is that Sri Sanjay Rath teaches that this dasa should only be used with cardinal lagnas. However, I find chara dasa to be an acceptable system that can be used with all charts. In the analysis of any rasi dasa, the importance of sign aspects, chara karakas, arudhas, argalas etc. must be borne in mind, as they hold the keys to interpreting the dasas. In this chart, the dual signs have special significance as far as marriage is concerned because they all aspect each other, and a significant number of relationship triggers are in the dual signs. The seventh lord (Sun), the Upa Pada, and the chara dara karaka (Rahu, by the eight karaka scheme). One would expect these factors to play some part in triggering the marriage, and as they are all in dual signs, and dual signs all aspect each other. The Chara Dasa running at the time was Gemini-Virgo. Both are, of course, dual signs. Gemini contains the seventh Lord, and is aspected by the Upa Pada and DK, as mentioned above, while Virgo is aspected by all these factors, and is the seventh from the DK and Upa Pada. Interestingly enough, Virgo in the Navamsa also is the seventh house, housing the seventh Lord and Venus, while also aspected by DK again. Furthermore, the Lord of both Gemini and Virgo (Mercury) gets aspects from Venus and and Jupiter (Upa Pada Lord and dispositor of DK). In my blind analysis, I had picked the wrong dual sign (pisces) for the antardasa, in fact the last available in the dasa. I made the mistake of assuming that Saturn in the seventh should have delayed marriage. Obviously in this case it did not. Also appealing was the coinciding sun (seventh lord) antardasa by vimsottari. But hey...too late. Another useful way of analysing a dasa is to take it as the lagna. Here this is especially interesting. The seventh from Gemini is again aspected by all those marital factors. But what is interesting is that the seventh lord gets debilitated in the eighth, while aspected by three natural malefics. One wonders if it's an insight into the fate of the marriage. 2. (Rasi) Narayana (a.k.a Padakrama) Dasa The Dasa running this time was Scorpio-Saggitarius. Sagittarius is another dual sign and so it's another pretty blatent indicator, which I don't need to go into. Scorpio is stranger though, as it has no obvious relation with the Upa Pada, seventh, or DK, except perhaps the planetary aspect of DK Rahu. There are however some indications for marriage even with Scorpio. Sanjay Rath teaches that when the Narayana Dasas are started from the seventh house (as in this chart), the seventh from the dasa sign should be taken as a temporary lagna, and the chart should be judged from there to determine the results of the dasa. So with Scorpio Dasa running, Taurus becomes the temporary lagna, and we see the seventh lord and second lord (family) conjoin in the ascendant, aspected by Venus and Jupiter. Interesting, although perhaps less blatent than the Chara Dasas in this case. Anyway, gotta run for now (the anti-varga/other dasha police are catching up :-) Pursottam _______ Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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