Emotions(Moon),Jupiter(happiness),Receptors,Karma.

[Guest guest]

Dear Members,

 

Although my knowledge of "Neuro Receptors" is severely limited, I do know

that every emotion, every experience, has a corresponding chemical

fingerprint. Lack of happiness is characterised by a deficiency in the

corresponding receptors...anger has it's own chemical counterpart, and so

on...

 

There is no doubt that these things can be clearly seen in one's horoscope.

For instance Jupiter (planet of happiness) afflicted by a (FM) Saturn is

sure to restrict ones happiness. Likewise afflicted 4th lord can result in

some deficiency in, or obstruction to, our general happiness and

contentment. Afflictions to Moon can lead to emotional deficiencies

(issues), etc...

 

As said in an earlier post, influences on 12th house can indicate

intoxication...either spiritual or chemical. Likewise, no significant

influence on (or from) this house, can show a native not disposed to either

form of intoxication...not inclined towards intoxicants, not inclined

towards meditation.

 

It would be interesting perhaps to look at the charts of those who

experience the things spoken of recently and see how comprehensive the laws

of nature (karma) are.

 

Let's use this information we've gathered to further our understanding of

jyotish. Basically we're astrologer not neurologists, so let's use the

knowledge we've gained (no matter how primitive) to further our

understanding of this divine science.

 

Regards

Wendy

[Guest guest]

gjlist, "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas@o...> wrote:

> Dear Members,

>

>

> ...There is no doubt that these things can be clearly seen in one's

horoscope.

> For instance Jupiter (planet of happiness) afflicted by a (FM)

Saturn is

> sure to restrict ones happiness. Likewise afflicted 4th lord can

result in

> some deficiency in, or obstruction to, our general happiness and

> contentment. Afflictions to Moon can lead to emotional deficiencies

> (issues), etc...

>

> As said in an earlier post, influences on 12th house can indicate

> intoxication...either spiritual or chemical...

>

> It would be interesting perhaps to look at the charts of those who

> experience the things spoken of recently and see how comprehensive

the laws

> of nature (karma) are.

>

> Regards

> Wendy

 

Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!!

 

Namaste dear Wendy and all the dear list members!!

 

i would have no problem with sharing that information...and in fact

even without sharing it sofar...i could quite easily, and without even

glancing at my chart say that all the indicators which Wendy mentioned

are operational in my chart....

 

with Mercury, ruler of the 9th, (Virgo) in the 12th (Sag)...we see the

love of "intellectual" intoxication...and the intoxication relevant to

the "mind"....such as the various psychedelics, including hemp, and

many others....As well, as i have said before, Mercury is Atmakaraka

for my Guru, Ammachi...and sits in HER 12th house TOO...in

Virgo....so Ammachi too, is going for the Mercurial, (and Sun in Her

case) kinds of intoxication...

 

my fourth lord Mars is i guess you could say "afflicted" by having to

be in Mercury's house...Virgo, in the Ninth, and having to be sitting

there with his number one enemy...Saturn....

 

As for Jupiter in the third..(Pisces) he is definitely "afflicted" by

Sani and Mars in the Ninth..(virgo...)

 

Moon (poor thing!) is stuck in stuffy, restrictive, constrictive,

obstructive, unfeeling (seemingly so!) old Sani's home territory...the

Lagna...Capricorn..so you could say that both it and the

significations for "marriage" are in trouble...

 

another interesting one is that Rahu is in the 2nd...Aquarius, and

thus Ketu in the 8th, Leo. and earlier on this list there was ongoing

discussions about Rahu in the 2nd giving rise to "addictive"

behaviours also...

 

So as far as i can tell from my kindergartener perspective, all of the

indicators you mentioned are quietly at work in my chart...if you'd

like the actual chart to work with the data is as follows:

 

visvanathan

 

DOB: DEC 2 1951

TOB: 11:18 AM

TIME ZONE: 8:00

PLACE: NEW DENVER, B.C. CANADA

 

that should be enough information...if you need the long and

lat...Goravani Jyotish has that town in it already...(and my "home

town"---that is the town closest where i live in the country...with

only 3-400 souls living therein)....

 

so there you are...

 

it seems fairly clear to me in my ignorance at least...that my chart

reflects pretty well my lived experience of life.

 

In the Divine Mother's Love,

and in Her Service

 

as ever,

your own self,

 

visvanathan

 

Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!!

[Guest guest]

Hi!

 

Doeas anyone know about the effects of beetroots on the brain?

 

regards

Mani

[Guest guest]

Dear Visvanathan,

 

THANK YOU! for being brave enough to put your chart forward......

Asc lords dispositor Mercury in 12th in nakshatra of Ketu is favourable for

the spiritual aspirant...Gnana yoga (the path of the intellect). Whilst Asc

lord Saturn conjoined with 4th lord Mars in 9th shows strong Bhakti yoga

(the path of devotion).

 

(apologies if I've misspelt gnana and bhakti...too weary to check...but

hopefully the meanings clear anyway)

 

Best Regards

Wendy

 

YOU WROTE:

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i would have no problem with sharing that information...and in fact

even without sharing it sofar...i could quite easily, and without even

glancing at my chart say that all the indicators which Wendy mentioned

are operational in my chart....

[Guest guest]

Hi Wendy, I'm not sure if you saw a different post, but I have moon

conjunct Jupiter in Capricorn and Saturn and Ketu in Gemini. I related

a bit to what has been recenlty written, but in my case it's very

fluctuating. One day I may feel a sadness, that lack of happiness,

while others I may feel so strongly that the reason why I am feeling the

lack is because I just haven't found the happiness, and wasn't trying

hard enough. That seems sorta funny to me, thinking back to a time a

while ago when I was given a rune card deck. I set it aside for the

time being, I really liked it, but I'm a perfectionist that way, so I

wanted to learn it deeply. Well anyways, I must've got sidetracked

because I forgot about it and didn't think of it until the day I moved

out of that place. I looked through the deck but nowhere to be found

was one card, I forgot it's name in the language, but it meant

happiness. I looked and looked, but I couldn't find it, I have no idea

where it went to this day, but I do think it's ironic that here I am

reflecting on happiness, and whether I just plain lack it or just

haven't found it yet I think the optimism is from Jupiter, even if

it is debilitated.

 

Oh, one thing I don't understand about debilitated Jupiter, is that it's

in my third, the house of my little brother. He's very very religious,

but so much so, that he was recently diagnosed as manic

depressive/bipolar. He checked himself in though, no force, but the

basis of it was because he's religious, and loves to preach it, to

strangers...maybe not wanting to be preached to but anyways, that's

a very emotional topic for him. He has Sag rising with Jupiter conjunct

Venus in the third, maybe that explains his passion for it, the Venus

aspect?

 

Well, Visvanathan wrote about his Rahu in second and it being addictive.

I have that too, conjunct Venus. I don't feel like I'm addicted to

anything though, but who knows, I may not be aware of it, I know Rahu is

the deciever. I do though have a couple phobias, the big one, the

social phobia...that one I'm working on, I think mines mainly like a

stage fright kind of thing, because like I love to drive, I would drive

anywhere and everywhere, all while listening to my Leonard Cohen on the

way but as soon as I stop, I just don't like the feeling of having to

mingle, even it if is only by a glance, I just don't like it, but like I

said, I'm not sure why yet.

 

Another thing is that I cannot for the life of me, swallow pills. It

could be the tiniest pill, but if I know it's a pill I just can't

swallow it. It's not a swallowing of food disorder or anything, has

nothing to do with reflexes, it's all just psychological. I'm not sure,

does Rahu rule pills? Does anyone else have this too?

 

And then there's a complex I have about my ankles, them being too thick.

I have no idea where I got that one from, but I think it started when

the trendy tight roll jean started when I was in middle school. Well, I

think as I get older though, the complex is dying down, I can only take

so many rolling of the eyes, I guess some people I knew thought it a

ridiculous complex. Is there a planet that rules the ankles?

 

Well anyways, I posted my birth before, but here it is again. Angie,

Nov 3, 1973 Agana, Guam 8:46am (but I'm pretty sure my time or ayanamsha

selection is wrong, and I'm pretty sure my moon pada is wrong too, but

that's it on my certificate) and here's my little brother if you're

interested, I'd be interested if you or someone knew why (like within

this month) my little brother got diagnosed as manic depressive. Andre,

Feb 11, 1975 4:47am Agana, Guam

 

Well, I think what I wrote are my most standing out emotional

deficiances, I hope it helps you Angie

[Guest guest]

Dear Angie,

 

Thank you for putting forward yours and your brother's chart info...both

very interesting studies in light of recent discussions.

 

However it's time to put this overworked computer to sleep for the day...I'd

like to make some comments on your charts tomorrow when I'm fresher. One

point I do want to make now is this assumption of Rahu in 2nd causing

addictions...this is not necessarily so! 2nd house shows "partaking of wrong

food or drink", which can mean living on Pizza and soft-drink :-).....

 

6th house shows "vices" and is more connected with addictions such as

smoking etc. 12th shows intoxicants.....

 

In a very general sense we could perhaps conclude that a native with 2nd

lord (food/drink) afflicted in 12th may have a problem with alcohol.

 

Regards

Wendy

 

YOU WROTE:

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>snip<

Well, Visvanathan wrote about his Rahu in second and it being addictive.

I have that too, conjunct Venus. I don't feel like I'm addicted to

anything though, but who knows, I may not be aware of it, I know Rahu is

the deciever.

[Guest guest]

Dear Angie,

 

FIRST UP: You said that you don't have any vices that you know of...this is

not too difficult to discern with Asc. lord (Mars) in moolatrikona sign in

6th. Mars owns this house so should not be overpowered by it...therefore YOU

should not (easily) be overpowered by vices or any other enemies...if you

are at all, you should have the strength to easily overcome.

 

SECOND: The social phobia you spoke of is born out with 4th lord of

confidence (Saturn) conjunct Ketu in 8th. Furthermore Saturn is in Nakshatra

of Rahu who is phobic by nature...also, of course, 11th lord of social

activity (Mercury) in Ascendant is dispositor of SA/KE. This suggests some

shyness, some reservedness in social situations.

 

THIRD: Feet and ankles are seen from 12th house and (again) we see the

phobic nature of Rahu conjunct 12th lord Venus...note also aspect of

Saturn.......

(this is just a quick glance at Rashi...more can be discerned by looking

deeper of course)

 

FOURTH: Rahu (I believe) is specifically associated with medication, and the

2nd house where he is placed (along with 12th lord) governs the organs of

the face and throat...so some difficulty or phobia connected with swallowing

medication (pills) is possible.

 

FIFTH: Happiness in general is seen from 4th house and Jupiter, whilst

emotions and mental stability are seen (generally) from 5th house and Moon.

You indeed have contradicting and fluctuating influences in this regard.

Your saving grace is 9th lord Moon, but as we know, Moon is a fluctuating

planet, therefore the passage of Moon will have a great say in your general

happiness...note: karaka for 4th (Moon) and karaka for 5th (Jupiter) are

conjunct, and both are in nakshatra of Moon who is lord of 9th house.

 

SIXTH: Third lord Saturn conjunct Ketu in Mercury's sign in 8th indicates

difficulties for younger sibling...note: Ketu in nakshatra of Mars (karaka

for younger sibling), whilst Mars is in nakshatra of Ketu.

 

Regards

Wendy

[Guest guest]

Thanks Wendy, I was really having a hard time understanding the

differences between the 4th and 5th house in regards to emotional

happiness I followed that earlier thread, about education, and the

4th vs 5th, but that was sorta hard to understand too, they kinda mixed

together it seemed. I just saw your other post just now on ~`partaking

of wrong food and drink`~

 

This is just fyi, so I don't want you to feel the need to comment on

this, but, I'm a very poor eater, but I'm trying to get better about

that one. I haven't in a while, but if I drank (alcohol) it was never

addictive, just social, more to put me at ease, like you ran down (a

lot, I had no idea) of reasons for difficulty in social situations.

 

There was a time though, when I lived practically on coffee and

cigarettes, in fact I called them the only luxuries I could ever need,

because I like to think a lot, and they were comforting in that way, I

quit smoking though. I never was big into the drug situation, but I did

experiment, luckily I wasn't drawn into that, most everone I knew

though, was either in treatment or should've been.

 

I have one picture that used to completely embarrass me, but not

anymore, I'm with all these people (one of whom I dated) in black

leather, spikes and what not, and it's winter and were just hanging out

and I'm the only one with any color, and I'm wearing a fluffy pink

winter coat (my mother, I used to hate her for this though, but she

refused to buy me a leather jacket)...but now though when I can look

back, she really did a good thing for me

 

But anyways, concerning food, one time, a long time ago, I didn't eat

for ten days, just drank coffee and smoked cigaretts, pretty much

because I'd forget to, and put it off, I didn't purposely do it, and I

actually didn't think that was even possible. And then one day I

realized I needed to eat and I had a craving, for fruit punch, so I

drank some fruit punch, but it didn't stay down, but slowly I got my

appetite back.

 

Oh, also, before I forget, I really liked reading your post on sharing

things about your life ~ experiences, like that it's not really sharing

your soul when you confide in people, but your karma, I'm never going to

forget that Angie