Guest guest Posted May 24, 2001 Report Share Posted May 24, 2001 Having less Dopamine receptors is correct. That's what some of us are like. This ultimately means, in plain terms, the bottom line, last word: We cannot handle stress very well. The reason this is the bottom line is that you can learn to improve and manage life in this condition. But you'll never be equipped to long handle stress. Hence, my Dad lost it mentally whereas others survived, and I lost it under the deress of unrequited love for 5 years. Sattva-Shanti is necessary to keep around me at all times, then I'm pretty good. With too much stress, my system is going to panic. That's how it works, that's why addicts are short tempered. It's not that they are "angry". Quite the opposite. They are not actually NOT capable of holding anger at all, that's why they drop it on your ears first chance. The world is generally the opposite of what we think. The "strong" are really weak, etc., the crazy people, often the most enlightened. The dead, often more alive. war the beginning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2001 Report Share Posted May 24, 2001 more... Dopamine deficiency tells your mood: "you are not safe, you are not loved" So people with this, are going to have weird ways of behaving because they actually think everyone is looking down on them kindof and they are convinced they are unloveable. This is true. Think about it. Their disposition and thus their actions, are helpable by dietary change. That lady behind the counter, who is shy, tweaky, a dinky red head who seems to be really like a scared little animal, won't look you in the eye, evasive, very helpful, very quick and good, well, you probably aren't seeing her. You probably can't meet her. You probably like everyone else don't really know who she is, and neither does she, because she's malnourished right now, and nobody knows it, and this is an attrocity. Her life will be far less than it could be, because she needs something she's not getting, and nobody knows this. How sad. Until that day when everyone is well fed, nothing else can expect to be good really. As long as some of us are walking around in disease, and all are unaware of it, how can we have a good society? There are people in jail because of doing exactly what test monkeys do. Think about it. Doing nothing but what is natural, has put them in jail. Is that possibly called Genocide, the attempt to extinquish a race? Can hardly mate and raise families in jail after all. They were made to be in jail, it's in their charts, and it's natural. They had no choice, and neither did the policeman, the judge, us, our tears, so many injustices, due to ignorance. Seeing her habitat dissapearing, the Sasquatch went a wrentching. Earth First War The Beginning (truetype postscript: remember, it's writing, not reality- it's color, art, meant to cause YOU to enjoy some thoughts- I'm a word whore, give me a moment of your time and I'll give you a momentary thought that might be out of the ordinary, and so entertaining- philosophical entertainment- What do I REALLY stink for myself you wonder, ahh'll never tell the truth, or will i? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2001 Report Share Posted May 24, 2001 gjlist, goravani@a... wrote: > > > > more... > > > Dopamine deficiency tells your mood: > > "you are not safe, you are not loved" > > (truetype postscript: remember, it's writing, not reality- it's color, art, > meant to cause YOU to enjoy some thoughts- >What do I REALLY stink for myself you wonder, ahh'll never tell the truth, or will i?) Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!! Namaste dear sisters and brothers!!! Thank you all for all your inputs re the dopamine issue...i really appreciate the love with which everyone has invested their replies..and ongoing conversation...as well i'd like to thank everyone for their kind and helpful comments re Ayanamsha...interesting to learn thru Ernst that Sri Yukteswar himself used the Lahiri one. Koti Koti Pranams to you Dasji!!you have such an interesting way with words....that one quote above: dopamine deficiency tells your mood: "you are not safe, you are not loved"... do you EVER hit that old nail on the head there!! only since meeting Ammachi have i been able to work a little with that one...because when we meet Her we become instantly aware that despite all our glaring faults, and no matter how serious they might be...here is ONE person in the whole world Who really Loves us for ourself... there are no words for this, so i am really in a way destroying slightly the actual feeling by trying to fit it into a sentence of dry woody words....but it is still an ongoing challenge, when thru Guru Prasad, or Ishta Devi Prasad (which ever you please!)...one is confronted almost daily with the shifting nature of this world, and when one is Saturn Atmakaraka and Lagnesha....this feeling of darkness and unsafeness is very strong... Because in truth, if we care to look in that direction we are NOT safe except insofar as we may have taken refuge at the Lotus Feet of our Ishta Devi...in that refuge i see my only safety, but still i'd like a little daily help to take the edge off my nerves...that doesn't mean i'm nervous, but that i'm TOO sensitive to all sensory input (raw nerves....which hurt easily!!!)...as i said yesterday i, for example, tried for a while, 5HTP which is a precursor to serotonin, and if i took the higher of the two recommended doses i would get a headache....not long after..... as well, what might give an ordinary person pleasure may just as well give me a migraine....so this body's constant message to the dweller within is: "Please take PROPER care of me!!! as i am a very sensitive instrument, and you are abusing me with this style of life you are ignorantly choosing to live!" and even when we DO take care of our vahanas...our bodies, still we must consider ourselves to be merely little birds perched on a very dry twig on a tree, high up, and while there we are eating and sleeping and carrying on...but we must never forget that it is a very dry twig and that it may break at any moment, and thus we should be ready to jump off and fly away at any time....it is not in our hands!! However it is a little more in our hands what we are doing while ON the branch...and when body is complaining thru headaches, depression, addictions and so on....then we should possibly pay more attention to see what it is that body REALLY wants...good food and good air, and water...and friends and all that...so thus we experiment with new therapies as they become part of the consciousness.... Over the years i've tried MANY approaches...and often for quite a long time...nothing seems to work very well except avoidance of the triggers (and hemp sandwiches!)...and as they (triggers) are in the hundreds it seems...just ordinary foods...you wouldn't believe the list...and then there's changing weather...sunlight on water....too much emotion of any kind...crying too much...(histamine related i suspect!) so if the histamines get out of whack...headache...if the adrenaline gets out of whack...headache...if the food intake or the sleep is out of whack...headache...Migraine is a Major advocate of the Sattwic life style!!! if one tries too much Rajas or Tamas....the delightful reward of Migraine will ensue...all this after asking Amma What to do about Migraines and chronic headaches...was getting tired of all the pills and their long term negative effects on body.... Amma said..."just put this Vibhuti on your head when you have headache...and Amma will make a sankalpa for you!" i went away thinking that those headaches' days were Numbered exulting in my wise choice to aske Amma for help!!! What an idiot i was!!!That only brought the whole issue out into formal notice, with a formal assertion of a Sankalpa...She didn't say WHAT kind of Sankalpa...and only later i found out that Mother immediately subtly rearranged the whole system such that foods and activities that used to be fine, now delivered a nasty Whack on the behind!!MIGRAINE...i had no alternative but to realise that Mother is now using these little tricks to discipline Her lazy, addictive little boy!!! Immediately (like the same day!!)after i asked...the list of triggers expanded an hundredfold...old cheddar cheese used to be FINE...so did chocolate, and smoking the weed...as well as wine or any alcohol,....nuts became off limits...you name it...it's really an issue of living a very EXAMINED life...even if i don't really want to...Old Saturn is FORCING me to concentrate on the issue with those Migraines.... what's the weather today?...cloudy, stormy with an 80% chance of Migraines....that's my life...but they (migraines) seem to be Guru Prasad too...and are often used to discipline this devotee... "you don't want to observe the Yamas and Niyamas son??You want instant enlightenment...just put it in a cup and add boiling water???? Well, son, how about some of this delicious instant headache, when you pursue those behaviours which may lead you away from contemplating your short life, and the Loving Divinity within you, Who is always knocking at the doors of your heart...wanting to come out of jail...and help everybody...but what do you say??? "No thanks!! could You please go away??? I'm too busy to talk to You right now!!"" And what does that Loving Indweller say but "Yes." She won't force Herself upon us, but She may make it harder to live without thinking of Her!!! Dasji i love all those scintillating little sparks you shed on this list...they do get the mind going...and raving too...and filling up the servers with useless, but highly entertaining essays that no one will ever read!!!(except the devotees of course!) the reason that i'm checking it (that yellow oil) out, is because i DO come from a family of "addicts"!!!with a tendency towards depression... my grandpa was an alcoholic when he at 55 or so moved to Canada from Norway in 1927...my dad also i think qualified in this department...as his personality would change from loveable to angry, frustrated and abusive when too drunk (he wasn't drinking all the time, but when he did this happened!)...also didn't know when to stop...he would drink you out of all your booze if you let him at a party...the same with my brother...only now that he's been in AA for a few years, he is a radically different and most loveable man...and even is very sensitive to Divinity...at least as far as a logger can be sensitive to Divinity and still continue to cut them trees down for a living!!..and turn landscapes into roads and landings!! my dad sought help from a doctor once for depression, and my uncle "died" of it...he died literally of a "broken heart"...Weirdly enough it was true on two levels, physically his heart exploded..so they couldn't patch it up!!! and emotionally he had been broken hearted (i would call it depressed now!) ever since his most beloved wife deserted him for a drunk...and moved away...so when Dasji talks of family and depression and addiction, dear brothers and sisters, he is ringing that bell at the door of my heart...i hear Mother once again asking "Can i come out and help you all now???" what will we answer? "no thanks i don't believe in alternate therapy??" or "thank you Mother i'll just try this!?" an hallmark of the true devotee is to be willing to grow, and to take everything coming his way as Guru Prasad...and when such comes our way in the lovely Guru colour of Yellow...and is an essential fatty acid...without which the mind doesn't work properly....hhhmmmmm....what do you think????it seems to be worth at least checking it out! Possibly the Ishta is here providing some help for the 'electro-mechanical' functions of the brain...such that one is able to grow to be adorable, such that further, one may merge at last in that Sacred Om.... i can see that addictive nature in myself, and i have felt quite similar to Dasji over the years, especially when i was married, towards the end and for a few years afer...probably if i had gone for help to a psychiatrist, or my doctor even, i might have found myself on the SRI's... My doctor in putting me on Ativans in 1983, (Lorazepam...one of the benzodiazepene family, which includes Valium and Librium) was unwittingly (for both of us!!) stimulating an addictive behaviour in me... The drug HELPED as it is a "muscle relaxant"...and my headaches were very related to the stress of two new babies only 16 months apart...the daily headaches began within a week of the younger child's birth!! daily headaches..migraine types... so Ativan was very useful...TOO useful...it worked too well...but eventually as in all drugs, the effect wore off, and you'd have to INCREASE the dose slightly to compensate...by the time i went cold-turkey over Labour day weekend in 1988, i was consuming around 20 mgs a day, and you're not supposed to be taking any more than a max of 6mg...and only that for a short while...the usual dose is one half a miligram, or one miligram....so this was the addict...and his withdrawal...it's actually DANGEROUS to do what i did, and i wouldn't recommend the method...Cold turkey is NOT the routine advised by doctors for Ativan withdrawal..it can provoke SEIZURES!!!...but i was not so blissfully unaware of all this potential danger...it felt very bad though, and i was basically stuck in bed...for days and days..the whole world speeded up, and all sensory input became UNBEARABLE...it was a very strange experience to get myself out of the hooks of that seductive pill...."Mother's little helpers" as the Rolling Stones used to sing (i'm not a fan!! he protests) So when i have been reading Dasji's manifesto to the world over the last year or so, i felt that he was a "brother" to me in his experience of the world...and that i can very well fit right into that mold...i think it is a question of the round peg in a roundish hole...it may help and maybe not....as it could be one of the other imbalances....but i've ever been into experimenting with likely (or possible) therapies...have tried St. John's Wort oil for example... so i'll be undertaking this "experiment" while expecting nothing in particular...just as experiment..and it's all useful experience anyways!! at least i'll learn what doesn't work, if nothing good results! thank you all for the useful information...it is all useful to consider... in The Mother's Divine Love, and in Her Service as ever, your own self, visvanathan Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!! 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