Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 In general, brain stuff is said to take two weeks to start having effects. I think GLA may be different as I felt it immediately, like within a couple minutes of first consumption. I think this may be due to that it possibly triggers digestive effects which trigger dompamine production or something. I'm not a dietician scientist. I do know Paxil took a week, Effexor a couple days, and this a couple minutes. That's been my experience. In general, brain takes awhile to absorb stuff, true, but I think this area of knowledge is subtle and growing, so complex, each case different. I don't think migraines were listed under Dopamine's turf, so I don't know if GLA will help or not. Kinda doubt, but we'll see, harmless testing it on yourself, it's just food. Fatty food. Take care all, Raghu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 Om Amrtesvaryai Namah! Namaste dear sisters and brothers!! well, Dasji did such a great sell job on that yellow oil he is consuming...and he seems to have improved so much in how he feels, that i was encouraged too, to try this out...and i did find the borage oil variety, with several different fatty acids, all combined together...so it's experiment time again!!! will let you know if any change is noticed....Dasji was amazing in the change it wrought in him, however, i haven't been quite that depressed that i was needing the SRI's (at least i haven't felt the need to go there...not so desperate)...so perhaps any improvement wouldn't be quite so noticeable, but hey, it's worth a try....let's see how it affects the Migraines too...they are claimed to be related to low serotonin levels, but when i have take for example 5HTP to try and address this i found that IT could give me a headache too...and that is at around the suggested dosage....so who knows???it could be just the same as it was for Dasji....still a big mystery, and usually somewhat misdiagnosed... i'm kind of "interested" to see what if any results will occur... So thanks Dasji, for sharing and baring and letting us, your list friends, and family into your life a bit...i am honoured and i found that it actually increased my regard for you my dear brother...that you are willing to let it all hang out there...Many people wouldn't be that brave...but then you are not many people....you are you and you can be VERY brave...just to go the HK route that you took required a lot of bravery...as it is a difficult path to follow in this western society...(any spiritual path is a difficult pursuit in this materialistic world...we are NOT encouraged by outside influences to go there...) In the Mother's Love, and in Her Service, as ever, your own self, visvanathan Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 Dear Visvanathan and list, >>>>....let's see how it >>>>affects the Migraines too... I just want to mention something you may, and probably already are, aware of Visvanathan. But in case not: Apparently for migraines, from what I have studied about this in the past, in looking for best results, one is to use on a continual basis for awhile rather than expecting immediate effects. It's not necessarily a quick fix, like a pill or Excedrin kind of cure, but rather some beneficial effects over migraines with use over time. Other positive effects could be immediately, such as Das is having. Hooray! Namaste, Patrice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 Hello, In many herb and alternative healing books, evening primrose oil is listed to help migraines. (And it did help my migraines which were actually caused from caffeine. Discontinuation of caffeine completely ended my own migraines, but I did continue with primrose oil for all its other great benefits.) In 'Healthy Healing', a general all purpose book as a guide to self healing, and often used as a reference in health stores, along with 'Prescription for Nutritional Healing', evening primrose oil is suggested for migraines to help with prostaglandin balance, along with royal jelly. Here's a bit of info from Healthy Healing: Prostaglandins are a vital group of hormone-like substances derived from essential fatty acids that regulate body functions electrically. EFA's control reproduction and fertility, inflammation, immunity and communication between cells. Prostaglandins balance the body's essential fatty acid supply. Foods like ocean fish, sea foods, olive and sunflower oils, and herbs like evening primrose and flax oils all affect prostaglandic balance. Conversely, excess saturated fats in the body, especially from fatty animal foods, inhibit both prostaglandin production and proper hormone flow. EFA's also promote the prostaglandins that decrease inflammation. Actually one of my real favorite educational herb books, "Asian Health Secrets," by Letha Hadady, has evening primrose oil under "Is there an aspirin alternative?" She writes: Many herbs are excellent, safe anti-inflammatories. For example, capsules of evening primrose oil also prevent inflammation by inhibiting prostaglandins, but without side effects. And she continues further: Evening primrose oil has been recommended for the prevention of migraines, arthritis, menstrual pain, PMS, acne, and weight loss. It helps clear toxins as well as treat pain. In my studies, I have seen it often mentioned in many texts as helping with the liver, so again the reference to clearing toxins, which in turn can help with migraines. It's great stuff all around, definitely. I hope this helps. Patrice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2001 Report Share Posted May 24, 2001 gjlist, "Patrice Curry" <patrice.curry@h...> wrote: > Dear Visvanathan and list, > > >>>>....let's see how it > >>>>affects the Migraines too... > Apparently for migraines, from what I have > studied about this in the past, in looking for best results, one is to use > on a continual basis for awhile rather than expecting immediate effects. Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!! Namaste Patrice! thank you for the extra information...this is a reasonable expectation...that it will take a while to balance out the chemistry of the body...i wouldn't necessarily expect ANY results immediately...as i said, i am not feeling to be in such desperate straits as my dear brother Dasji was...so it may not make such a difference....immediately...but it may have a beneficial effect over time and for example over the winter, when the darkness is trying to the soul...it's an experiment for me...and i would carry it out for at least a couple or three months... What i learned from the article in Discover re dopamine receptors and obese or addicted people...is that they have LESS receptors in their brains...and thus the ordinary pleasures like a sunset or a walk in the lovely woods...will not give them the same feeling of joy and pleasure...so they seek the dopamine by self-medicating with food or drugs...as Dasji was sharing with us.... what they also STRESSED in that little article was that EXERCISE is a very good treatment for these dopamine receptors...NOT ONLY DOES IT CAUSE THE BODY TO RELEASE MORE DOPAMINE, BUT IT ACTUALLY BUILDS MORE DOPAMINE RECEPTORS IN THE BRAIN!!!! Thus the person suffering from this disorder can help themselves enormously by getting some exercise...i've noticed that exercise affects migraines too...if i don't get enough exercise, definitely migraines increase...so this might also be related to the whole dopamine business...i do remember reading a long time ago how the exercise nuts get "high" on exercise....because the exercise causes the body to release Endorphins...but i didn't know about Dopamine...and in fact i still don't know whether Dopamine is considered to BE an Endorphin...haven't checked that out. But EXERCISE is good for all aspects of the body...including mood and heart health as well...so i'm an advocate of that...even if it's just MORE walking and LESS driving...more stairs, less elevators...going for a nice walk every day in a place where one enjoys to be...a park or in my case down by the river along abandoned rail road tracks which have had the ties and rails removed and a trail made...it's also considered good to get some exercise which is making you sweat a little...like going uphill for a while...even very steeply...or even up stairs...perhaps you might even put a weight on...i have noticed from walking to work up hill for 15-20 mins/day for 4 days a week, that after not so long it became a lot easier...and that's with a weighted down pack...so i'm a strong advocate of walking as much as possible...that's what we are designed for....NOT sitting on an office chair in front of a computer all day!!! (although i've been known to do just this myself....only to rush out for a walk just before sunset...)and i notice when i DON'T manage to do that...i just don't feel as good. In the Divine Mother's Love and in Her Service as ever, Your Own Self, visvanathan Om Amrtesvaryai Namah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2001 Report Share Posted May 24, 2001 Dear Visvanathan, Das, and list, Great info on exercising and the chemical effects on the body. Thank you for all your words and info, and insights, good thoughts. Physical, spiritual, and mental health - important to have the whole health and energy to pursue these great gifts of Jyotish and truths we have available, and to be healthy with energy so as to offer our own gifts and love to others. Thanks for all your words and encouragement to look at these issues and also encouragement to be out in nature and walking, exercising. Important to include in the midst of all our studies. Namaste, Patrice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2001 Report Share Posted May 24, 2001 Many, many long days on the computer...too little sunshine, too little exercise, modern day (over-processed) diet......... Have just got back from store armed with huge bottle of "Evening Primrose Oil" :-) ....have sneaking suspicion it may be beneficial for inflammatory disease. Regards Wendy PS: I agree with what you say Visvanathan regarding exercise, etc...although the "high" that you spoke of (endorphin) is usually common to marathon runners and not something one usually experiences with normal exercise. I also don't believe people can get "high" on cigarettes as tobacco is not a mind-altering drug...certainly an unhealthy habit, but not an intoxicant as such. PATRICE WROTE: ============== Dear Visvanathan, Das, and list, Great info on exercising and the chemical effects on the body. Thank you for all your words and info, and insights, good thoughts. Physical, spiritual, and mental health - important to have the whole health and energy to pursue these great gifts of Jyotish and truths we have available, and to be healthy with energy so as to offer our own gifts and love to others. Thanks for all your words and encouragement to look at these issues and also encouragement to be out in nature and walking, exercising. Important to include in the midst of all our studies. Namaste, Patrice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.