JT- Birth Control and a Little Astrological Proprioception

[Guest guest]

At 09:44 AM 5/19/01 -0700, you wrote:

>That is a great book, but I found the results from it match the astrological

>check that I mentioned. I always reccomend that if a woman has some hormonal

>imbalances she check the astrolgical results with the methods outlined in

>that book.

>

>Take Care,

>Ernst

 

Thanks for the response Ernst,

 

Certainly there is no harm in utilizing both tools (exterior and interior

landscapes)...and it seems such a method has worked well for you (kudos!)...

 

I am writing from a perspective that the various astrologers and psychics I

have consulted (and I have spoken with quite a few that maintain high

accuracy) have been incorrect but my body has not...and as I previously

mentioned, my cycle has a history of being sporadic (Saturn rules my 4th,

5th and sits in my 9th with that Ketu guy--I have just one child, a 6 month

old infant, which is in a bit of a contrast to the indications of my Mars

in Aries in 7th--high sex drive, I'll admit it) and the mucus method helped

me pinpoint ovulation (not something the list needed to know, but oh well

it's out there now) ...

 

My objection is towards the sole reliance upon the astro-logos portion

(which has been the mood of previous posts) for this is a bit subversive to

putting the logos (i.e. if the environment does not support what you are

rationalizing into astral placements, then the prediction will fall on its

face) into practice (in my practical ---read experiential--opinion)....

 

Did the charts of the "hormonal imbalances" support this assertion?

 

What was the atmosphere of their moon and merc.? (I'm thinking inclination

of the daily mindset---for the mind is such a powerful tool).....

 

Just a few rhetorical questions tis all.....I am now beginning to over

intellectualize (see, guilty as charged) and I might be edging towards

pontificating as well....it's the pedagogue in me (RY Saturn in Gem in

9th)....

 

Slante chugat,

 

Kat

 

The Fulcrum Manifesto: Left of the Right, and Right of the

Left...Some-where in the center of the galaxy for the best measure of

Self-exhumation and gravitational equipoise...

 

If everybody thought before they spoke, the silence would be deafening. -

George Barzan

 

Humanity is condemned to be free; because once thrown into the world, each

is responsible for everything one does. - Jean-Paul Sartre

[Guest guest]

Dear Kat,

I alwyas check the Moon first to check for any hormonal imbalances since

the Moon rules the femenine hormones, however since Venus rules Hormones in

general, VEnus has to be looked at as well. In the US there seems to be a

higher rate of hormonal imbalances then one would expect, but I find that

most of the time the astrological method still works.

 

If you have all your worksheets from Taking Charge... then you could easily

check your cyles with the Moon! If you do, let me know what you find.

 

Take Care,

Ernst

 

-

Kat and Kegan <naramundali

<gjlist>

Saturday, May 19, 2001 10:45 AM

[gjlist] JT- Birth Control and a Little Astrological Proprioception

 

 

> At 09:44 AM 5/19/01 -0700, you wrote:

> >That is a great book, but I found the results from it match the

astrological

> >check that I mentioned. I always reccomend that if a woman has some

hormonal

> >imbalances she check the astrolgical results with the methods outlined in

> >that book.

> >

> >Take Care,

> >Ernst

>

> Thanks for the response Ernst,

>

> Certainly there is no harm in utilizing both tools (exterior and interior

> landscapes)...and it seems such a method has worked well for you

(kudos!)...

>

> I am writing from a perspective that the various astrologers and psychics

I

> have consulted (and I have spoken with quite a few that maintain high

> accuracy) have been incorrect but my body has not...and as I previously

> mentioned, my cycle has a history of being sporadic (Saturn rules my 4th,

> 5th and sits in my 9th with that Ketu guy--I have just one child, a 6

month

> old infant, which is in a bit of a contrast to the indications of my Mars

> in Aries in 7th--high sex drive, I'll admit it) and the mucus method

helped

> me pinpoint ovulation (not something the list needed to know, but oh well

> it's out there now) ...

>

> My objection is towards the sole reliance upon the astro-logos portion

> (which has been the mood of previous posts) for this is a bit subversive

to

> putting the logos (i.e. if the environment does not support what you are

> rationalizing into astral placements, then the prediction will fall on its

> face) into practice (in my practical ---read experiential--opinion)....

>

> Did the charts of the "hormonal imbalances" support this assertion?

>

> What was the atmosphere of their moon and merc.? (I'm thinking inclination

> of the daily mindset---for the mind is such a powerful tool).....

>

> Just a few rhetorical questions tis all.....I am now beginning to over

> intellectualize (see, guilty as charged) and I might be edging towards

> pontificating as well....it's the pedagogue in me (RY Saturn in Gem in

> 9th)....

>

> Slante chugat,

>

> Kat

>

> The Fulcrum Manifesto: Left of the Right, and Right of the

> Left...Some-where in the center of the galaxy for the best measure of

> Self-exhumation and gravitational equipoise...

>

> If everybody thought before they spoke, the silence would be deafening. -

> George Barzan

>

> Humanity is condemned to be free; because once thrown into the world, each

> is responsible for everything one does. - Jean-Paul Sartre

>

>

>

> gjlist-

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

[Guest guest]

gjlist, "Ernst Wilhelm" <ernst@v...> wrote:

> Dear Kat,

> I alwyas check the Moon first to check for any hormonal

imbalances since

> the Moon rules the femenine hormones, however since Venus rules

Hormones in

> general, VEnus has to be looked at as well. In the US there seems

to

be a

> higher rate of hormonal imbalances then one would expect, but I

find

that

> most of the time the astrological method still works.

 

Hi there Ernst...

 

Just in case my previous statements weren't clear:

 

Again...simply, a co-existing of the two methods is what I was

agreeing with....not a reliance upon one method ....it's the

scientist within me to utilize more than one tool tis all (it lessens

the margin of fallibility--though does not annhiliate it)....

 

Certainly our toxic environment (diet, overstimulation of the senses,

emissions from dead and nuclear sources of energy etc...) has nothing

to do with the hormonal imabalance---heh...just being

facetious.....is

there a particular placement or Venusian/Lunar co-mingling you are

noticing that is common amongst U.S. which would substantiate your

statement astrologically?

 

I attempt to be careful with statements such as "most of the

time"...as Stephen Hawking noted in "A Brief History of Time" it is

easier to disprove a statement (only takes one deviation from the

hypothesis) than to prove one....

 

> If you have all your worksheets from Taking Charge... then you

could

easily

> check your cyles with the Moon! If you do, let me know what you

find.

 

Didn't need the worksheets...I knew I was ovulating by the mucus

method (yeah, it was that easy for me...I know this might not be

the case with the rest of my gender)...my cycle tends to run aligned

with the Full/New Moon phases (give or take a day)--tho I'm 30 days

cyclical not 28 (which would explain the give or take a day)....yet,

this has not always been the case...there are short spurts of

amenorrhea (see, there you have it, Venus in Cappy in 4th with unhappy

Jupie, oh yeah, Merc's there too--a little mindset emphasis as I

mentioned in my previous post--with ruler going to the 9th with

Ketu...and my Moon is Leo) which readjusts the cycle...soooo...each

individual is a case unto their own....

 

Having taken statistics, certainly there exists "averages" depending

upon the population you are drawing from (and how you are conducting

the sample and what your proving is)...have you ran a statistical

analysis your-self? Additionally, there are standard deviations...I

consider my-self one

 

Diff. between praxis and theory ...

 

Thanks for the pleasant distraction Ernst...this sort of intellectual

vollying helps to put my knowledge in practice and allows me to

witness where I'm "on" and where I'm "off"....

 

Slante chugat,

 

Kat