Guest guest Posted May 16, 2001 Report Share Posted May 16, 2001 Hello There is always the one, and many. The Rasi is one, the others the many, both by being "divisionals" and by their many as a group, rather than a "one". Those with inclination to integrate or Jupiter, will prefer just the rasi, those with attraction to Mercury more, will prefer the many. Ultimately, these two ying yang each other to perfection. Putting down overuse of the divisionals reveals that one was mistreated by persons with a prominent Mercury (just being really whimsical here). If that person then displays a Mercurial fighting spirit, all the more so. So Wendy, whats up with your parents? Was one of them a dominent but information oriented authoritarian, were you pushed towards intellectualism? I am not Mercurial at all, and don't even know what the divisionals rule over. How do you like them black apples? I have mega jupiter, and combust bad lord mercury. I'm a "basics man" myself, but by profession must deal with great detail. Again, torn chart, torn dude. But fat Jup in 9 gives wide vision. I'm wide, not focused as much. But hey, some people like 'em, (the divisionals) and thank God we aint all alike. Whoa. Thank God everybody taint like moi, whew, there'd be a whole lotta shaking going on... And re member your beams with this 4 by 4: They're big in the books. Big enough, for sure. My speciality which you seemed to like (oh boy, I so agree with you re. liking me), is deep and wide insight into the basics. That's me and mine. I'm not good at jousting with the bookworms actually, but I know that they have their place, and I mine. I have no problems coexisting with them, but I'm clearly of the deep and wide type, rather than the focused, jnan oriented, detail oriented, knowledge and clarity oriented. No. For my stuff, you squint, to see a bigger pattern that rules overall, whereas in other types of study you focus, which is entirely different. Squinting is exalted when viewing the forest, because then you have both "removal" extremes, squinting and separative distance, whereas focus is exalted when examing the trees, because then you have both focus paradigm extremes- a singular tree, and focus upon it. This is how you combine things to understand exaltation. It's a subtle art. If a sign is confusing as to why it exalts a planet, then there is something intrinsic about that planet you don't yet get, as you don't understand where it exalts, or achieves it's maximum "self". It's so wonderful when you're an idiot but someone smart has chosen to possess you. This is how the village idiot gets the time of his life, when the village spook decides to haunt him. How do you like your black apples? With fingernails and skin from the server as it falls from their decaying fingers, or with black sucking power so extreme it sucks in all the matter around it regardless? Krishna means "all attractive". He is also called Syam, or black. Black holes seem to be: Centers (stars/planets) where the mass has collapsed to "pure matter", which is not possible in our realm, because it creates such total gravity that it sucks everything around it in space into itself, even things millions of miles away. As the regular planets and universes fall into this center or dark planet, they become "pure matter" or "solid energy", which is not found on earth. Everything here has space in it, which weakens it's gravitational pull, so nothing overdominates and sucks in everything else. Conceivably, one day, there will be nothing in our "space" except one black ball, which will have consumed everythihng around it. This is a current and quite scientific astronomical theory which is not being openly discussed, for obvious reasons. This is currently happening. From what can be seen way out there, there are "black holes" eating everything around them. I believe that the "circle" in an illusion, and thus planets are actually layers, not balls, and black holes are what we see of what are actually ends of the causal swirl, probably mirror reflected to us as being many, when it's actually one. I have physical reasons why I think the curve of the universe, planets, orbits and so forth, are illusions, not scientific formulas, but just these types of thoughts I can't explain, but which I can see. It's based on assumptions. Here's an example of assumptions misleading us: The way matter deteriorates on Earth is HEAVILY affected by things carried by the atmosphere which you cannot see, including mainly oxygen. In space however, which is less "polluted" with elements than what we conceive of as our "invisible clear atmostphere", things do not decay, due to not "lack" of oxygen (so earth centered a view as to block vision and knowledge) but a freedom from it. Without atmospheric influences, there is only the decay caused by light. Take that away, there will be no decay. Conceivably, there is a way to have no decay. Change is based on other things. Change is actually not capable of existing by itself. It is the label for the visible results of other complex energetics. Frame and fear this: "Change" is a human created symptom label which underlines the presence of fear in us, as we talk about the effects of obviously dominant energetics on our illusory existences. "Change" means "I'm afraid of reality", as a word. That's what it really means. The existence isn't real, that's why the fear lives only in one's mind, and not in fact, and the word "change", the label, based in the fears of our languages framers. I prefer "unfoldment", "lessons", "opportunities", "challenges", "tests", but not "change". That's such a dead word. This is not a good word for the enlightened. There are no changes, ever, for the enlightened, that is at least an archetype promoting statement, meant to clarify, not to dogmatize. I'm learning to dislike dogma, but I'm learning to like dogs. Changing. My God, Sounds so Darwinian. I'm "evolving". Yuck! Raghu Quite Rainy ----------------- When you keep "evolving" you become a "re-volver". No thanks. Bang bang, die by it. No revolutions for me Nine Dunk, dunking in the ninth helps makes it so, Dominant Nostrils would have liked me. I understand why he never rode the weight he disliked. This is light sewing so much so as to make a mirror jealous. Realizing why he and others had never seen that before, suddenly he realized, he couldn't reveal it, for it would undo it, and it is so un-doable already, with a thought, so closing the window, kept it to himself. As Rahu realized why at the moment of sin, why it is a sin, as only a powerful rakshasha can reach so far as to know what only gods should know. Help help darwin words everywhere....no, do not dismantle the beautiful invisible world with words that lead to modern droopy college faces. peace out das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2001 Report Share Posted May 16, 2001 Namaste Visti, "People with the nodes joined with the Moon have interesting psychic ability, but are at a complete loss to use it propperly.. this is where Jupiter comes into the picture.. " I am one of the lucky ones, Mo/Ra/JuRx/PL conjunction in cancer/10th house. Ve/Ke in the 4th. Would like love to learn, how to use my latent psychic abilities properly.....could you please give any references? Thank you, Sabine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2001 Report Share Posted May 16, 2001 Hello Visti, Your chart is interesting. Please post birth details so we can see the finer details...i.e. nakshatra lords, etc.. VISTI WROTE: Just a little to add on my behalf. I was going to do a little writeup on your chart. How do you feel about having Saturn and Rahu in Dharma Trikona? I like the word "surrender" to god instead of "suicide". Best wishes, Visti. MY REPLY: I'm hoping this statement is just an innocent display of over zealousness and not intended as a dire prediction. The subtle intent of our words may be misinterpreted by others. Regards Wendy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2001 Report Share Posted May 16, 2001 PS: Perhaps it was meant in terms of suicide (surrender) of "Self" in a philosophical sense...Please clarify your meaning Visti. Regards Wendy Wendy Vasicek [wenvas] Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:39 AM gjlist RE: [gjlist] Divided we fall into 16 charts Hello Visti, Your chart is interesting. Please post birth details so we can see the finer details...i.e. nakshatra lords, etc.. VISTI WROTE: Just a little to add on my behalf. I was going to do a little writeup on your chart. How do you feel about having Saturn and Rahu in Dharma Trikona? I like the word "surrender" to god instead of "suicide". Best wishes, Visti. MY REPLY: I'm hoping this statement is just an innocent display of over zealousness and not intended as a dire prediction. The subtle intent of our words may be misinterpreted by others. Regards Wendy gjlist- Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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