Guest guest Posted May 13, 2001 Report Share Posted May 13, 2001 gjlist, "danielle-rose" <danielle-rose@c...> wrote: > > > 1. Is it possible to see from a chart that a person is likely to be a > migraine sufferer, and what are the indicators? > > 2. Are there any Ayurvedic treatments for the relief, or cure, of > migraines? > Namaste > Dany > > Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!!! Namaste Dany! i was told that i had a combination which would indicate migraines and chronic headaches, by a local vedic astrologer, Linda Prentice.... i am Capricorn lagna with Saturn and Mars both in my ninth house, Virgo...what i was told was that Mars is ruler of the natural first house (Aries) and can signify "head" by this, as well as the usual circulatory system indication and is expansive hot and fiery (pitta)...Saturn as it is lagnesh also signifies "head" in my case...and "focus" or "restriction of flow" and is contractive, cold, dry and airy (vata)...they are both sitting together in the natural 6th house of diseases, difficulties, and service to the body....Virgo, which in my case is the 9th...or inherited results...what comes from the Divine....(or you could even say significators of Guru's Grace, as it is the Guru's house) Thus these head significators, combined with their natural attributes, of hot and expansive and fiery for one, and cold, windy, and contractive for the other are in the natural 6th house, whose ruler, Mercury is in my 12th house... doubly increasing his potential for "body" difficulties..."losses due to service to the body"...and as Mars and Saturn are NOT the best of friends, we have a constant war going on there in the 9th (natural sixth) house....leaving the native, (me!) with the problem of chronic headaches and migraines.... now this is just the way i understand what i was told by Linda; and it is very possible that i don't remember everything she said...but it DOES make sense to me in a "lived" way... hope that helped.... remedies would include keeping Saturn happy and Mars off his back i would imagine...meaning i have to be careful around excessive stimulation from anything at all...have to be aware of Mars foods and activities...have to be aware of tensions in the body, due to political difficulties at work or home (don't get in any verbal or physical fights!!)...have to be much more "FOCUSSED" on what my body needs and is telling me it wants to do...THUS Saturn is inviting me to be much more careful in my life...FOCUS....and He has kindly restricted my life possibilities, so that i am UNABLE to spend much time in places that are not good for me...VERY PRACTICAL of Sani...if i won't follow a yogic lifestyle, i will simply hurt...migraines are no respecters of "should have" and "wished i had"....they operate on the FACTS, just like Sani. if i sit for an hour in a room lit with fluorescent lights, it doesn't matter how "virtuous" i am....i will still get a migraine....so i have to practice "fasting" from unwholesome places...so Sani makes this a very Practical kind of virtue...if it hurts, leave. in my understanding as migraine is a genetically inherited disorder,(those naughty planets ARE in my 9th HOUSE!!)...it is NOT curable...however there are remedies, common sense ones...avoid the triggers...the trick is figuring out which triggers set off the loaded and cocked "gun" of migraine...they are manifold and often unassuming...for example some nuts, overripe bananas, chocolate, citrus fruits, all aged cheeses, no matter which country from,...all alcoholic "beverages"...smoking hemp....being around people smoking cigarettes (tobacco smoke), fluorescent lighting, such as is found nearly everywhere...tv screens and computer screens...bright sunlight, especially off snow or water...changes of weather, like from sunny to stormy and cloudy, with rain...all these are triggers for just me! and there are MANY more...the lists are fairly depressing to read so i don't....it seems like this body is just simply allergic to "modern" life...in all its forms....i'd be fine living in some nice "golden" age, in a sattvic life-style....as it is Mother has kindly provided me with ongoing challenges, to keep me awake and aware of what's not so good in THIS life...and what's REALLY important....it's a great tool of Vairagya....nothing like a little pain to make the mind focus on God!!!it also gives one TIME to focus on god, since in a migraine attack you are unable to carry out your usualy daily superficial life....you get to see what is REAL for you and what is passing...what is important, and what is merely decoration on the cake... So in a way, we should not look at our "diseases" as enemies....often they have a friendly purpose...to wake us up from our stupid life-styles, and to help us focus on the Divine within....when the body is hurting, we are reminded so easily that we are not here for ever...time is fleeting, and what SHALL we spend it on???? Superficial materialistic gain....or the gain of THAT, having which, we need NOTHING else.....in a way we should be thanking our difficulties in life, our diseases, and difficult persons, they are helping to keep us more awake...otherwise we'd be sleep-walking like the rest of humanity!...it's hard to sleep-walk on a migraine, let me tell you!!!! Depression too, has a similar message i believe...any sensitive person looking at the materialistic culture we are surrounded by, would naturally respond by those feelings towards that culture which may be labelled "depression"...we see that it sucks, and we feel pain....we see that we suck, and we feel more pain....we see that relationships are difficult, if not impossible, and we feel pain...so we have two choices so to speak...we can just drink another quart of liquor and sleep it off, and get depressed, or we can use this awareness of how screwed up we and everyone else is, to give us MORE impetus to connect with that Beloved Deity, the Divine Beloved, Who dwells within our own hearts....and to view all our suffering brothers and sisters with the same love and attention with which we lavish on our own selves....we see that everyone has these pains in life...the details differ, the pain remains....and so we are invited to open up our hearts to these suffering children....and thus thru OUR pain, some compassion for the pain of OTHERS is born...without understanding first hand what is pain, how can we be of any use to those who are daily suffering??? so our options here are to live a sattvic, dharmic, Bhakta, compassionate life in so far as we are capable or to suffer the consequences... in the Divine Mother's Love, and in Her Service, as ever, Your own Self, visvanathan Om Amrtesvaryai Namah! 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Guest guest Posted May 14, 2001 Report Share Posted May 14, 2001 Hi, I remember one of my parents mentioning to me that feverfew is good for migraines. I just looked it up on the web and it's a blood thinner, so less pressure, easier circulation, but to be careful on account of that, and it cautions against using it if you're depressed as it lowers your seratonin level, but in that case, that's where a little primrose oil it said, could come in handy Angie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2001 Report Share Posted May 14, 2001 Hi, I know that White Oak Bark will help get rid of a headache, but dont know if that will also work for migraines. donna Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2001 Report Share Posted May 14, 2001 Hello Donna, Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Aspirin a derivative of White Oak Bark? Regards Wendy Donna WROTE: Hi, I know that White Oak Bark will help get rid of a headache, but dont know if that will also work for migraines. donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2001 Report Share Posted May 15, 2001 Dont know if it is a derivative or not. I know that at one point in my life I was having headaches and asked the chiropractor/herbalist that I was seeing about something to help releive the headaches and he said White Oak bark. It worked, but they were not migraines. donna --- Wendy Vasicek <wenvas wrote: > Hello Donna, > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Aspirin a > derivative of White Oak Bark? > > Regards > Wendy > > > Donna WROTE: > Hi, > I know that White Oak Bark will help get rid of > a > headache, but dont know if that will also work for > migraines. > donna > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2001 Report Share Posted May 15, 2001 Ginger Root helps with migraines too. Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2001 Report Share Posted May 15, 2001 At 07:13 PM 5/15/01 -0400, you wrote: >Ginger Root helps with migraines too. As does Feverfew. (tanacetum parthenium - liquid extract of dried leaf and flower) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2001 Report Share Posted May 16, 2001 Thanks to both for the info. Dany - <watersmoon <gjlist> Wednesday, May 16, 2001 12:20 AM Re: [gjlist] signs of migraine in chart > At 07:13 PM 5/15/01 -0400, you wrote: > >Ginger Root helps with migraines too. > > As does Feverfew. (tanacetum parthenium - liquid extract of dried leaf and > flower) > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2001 Report Share Posted May 16, 2001 gel cap donna --- danielle-rose <danielle-rose wrote: > Thanks for the info Donna. In what form do you find > White Oak Bark? I 've > never come across it. > > Regards > Dany > > > - > Donna M <jyotish_d > <gjlist> > Monday, May 14, 2001 7:33 PM > Re: [gjlist] signs of migraine in chart > > > > > > Hi, > > I know that White Oak Bark will help get rid > of a > > headache, but dont know if that will also work for > > migraines. > > donna > > > > > > > > > > Auctions - buy the things you want at great > prices > > http://auctions./ > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2001 Report Share Posted May 17, 2001 We have White Oak bark on the White Oak tree in our back yard. Not in gel caps yet. I wonder how the bark is prepared so as to be helpful. Now is when I'd like someone to tell me how do you prepare these things? I don't relish eating the bark, but would it likely be boiled as a tea, then the strained residue of that tea be encapsulated? Pharmacologists and chemists, where are you? Another thing or two about migraines. A book I have called Nutritional Medicine says magnesium is one mineral that relieves migraine, and that migraine sufferers are almost always found to be deficient in magnesium. Edgar Cayce said most migraines are caused by lack of elimination, and advised thorough inner cleansing of toxins to the bloodstream caused by accumulated waste. In severe cases he advised colonics and apple-only diets for a couple of days, followed by a teaspoon of olive oil taken at the end of the apple fast. Dietary fiber (not White Oak bark!) is another way to scrub stubborn toxins away, while magnesium sulfate, or Epsom Salts as it is usually called, is laxative in effect. To your good health, Carol In a message dated 5/16/2001 4:46:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jyotish_d writes: << gel cap donna --- danielle-rose <danielle-rose wrote: > Thanks for the info Donna. In what form do you find > White Oak Bark? I 've > never come across it. > > Regards > Dany >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2001 Report Share Posted May 18, 2001 Thanks for the additional info. Regards. Dany - <Carolhook <gjlist> Friday, May 18, 2001 5:42 AM Re: [gjlist] signs of migraine in chart > We have White Oak bark on the White Oak tree in our back yard. Not in gel > caps yet. I wonder how the bark is prepared so as to be helpful. Now is > when I'd like someone to tell me how do you prepare these things? I don't > relish eating the bark, but would it likely be boiled as a tea, then the > strained residue of that tea be encapsulated? Pharmacologists and chemists, > where are you? > > Another thing or two about migraines. A book I have called Nutritional > Medicine says magnesium is one mineral that relieves migraine, and that > migraine sufferers are almost always found to be deficient in magnesium. > > Edgar Cayce said most migraines are caused by lack of elimination, and > advised thorough inner cleansing of toxins to the bloodstream caused by > accumulated waste. In severe cases he advised colonics and apple-only diets > for a couple of days, followed by a teaspoon of olive oil taken at the end of > the apple fast. > > Dietary fiber (not White Oak bark!) is another way to scrub stubborn > toxins away, while magnesium sulfate, or Epsom Salts as it is usually called, > is laxative in effect. > > To your good health, > Carol In a message dated 5/16/2001 4:46:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > jyotish_d writes: > > << gel cap > donna > > --- danielle-rose <danielle-rose > wrote: > > Thanks for the info Donna. In what form do you find > > White Oak Bark? I 've > > never come across it. > > > > Regards > > Dany >> > > > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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