Leonard

[Guest guest]

Namaste dear list members,

fist of all I'd like to say that I'm sad that knowledgable list members like

Robert Koch and also Jeffrey Pummil decided to quit the list membership. I

find it a great loss for all of us. I'm most grateful to anybody willing to

spend his/her precious time and share their knowledge. Hopefully we are not

going to continue losing such members.

 

I've been thinking about Leonard's chart. Obviously he has died, otherwise

Ilona wouldn't have mailed his birth data as a reaction to Gautam's mail. I

can see factors in his chart indicating early death such as:

 

- Lagna conj. Gulika, Lagna aspected by Saturn, no benefic aspects.

- Lagnesh Mercury in the 8th, combust, hemmed in between the Sun and Ketu on

one side and Uranus and Neptun on the other, aspected by both 6th lord Mars

and 8th lord Saturn, no benefic drishti. "If Lagn's lord is in Ari, Randrs

or Vyaya Bhava yuti with malefics and devoid of yuti with and/or drishti

from a benefic, short life will come to pass." (BPHS)

- Karaka for the 1st, the Sun, at the same time Chandra's dispositor, sits

in the 8th with Ketu, Uranus, Neptune, aspected by Saturn and Mars.

- All three: Lagn's lord Mercury, the 3rd lord Sun and the 8th lord Saturn

are weak in Shad Bala (0,8)

- 8th lord Saturn is debilitated

- Arudha Lagna (Leo) gets Rasi drishtis from debilitated Saturn, Mars and

all the malefic grahas from the 8th.

- In Drekkana: Lagn's lord debilitated, conjunct 6th lord and aspected by

Mars.

- in Navamsha: Atma Karaka debilitated in the 6th with Pluto and aspected by

Saturn. Neptun and Gulika in Lagna, aspected by Mars.

- in Rashi chart: the 6th and 8th lords in mutual aspect (= bad health)

- Dasha / Bhukti lords at birth Venus / Ketu followed, by the Sun / Sun,

they all acitivated their dispositor, the debilitated 8th lord Saturn and

everything listed above.

 

BUT: There are factors in this chart which SHOULD HAVE ACTED as powerful

remedies, so I'd be very grateful if list members who are more knowledgeable

and experienced than me would explain WHY THEY HAVEN'T ACTED SO.

- a benefic in a Kona (Venus in the 9th, Vargottama!)"is a powerful remedy

for all related to health" (BPHS)

- an unafflicted benefic in a Kendra (Jupiter in own sign in the 10th, so

Hamsa Yoga as well)= "all evils are destroyed as Surya eliminates darkness"

(BPHS)

- a malefic drishti on Lagn of one born during day time in the dark half =

all evils are destroyed(BPHS)

- Saturn's debilitation gets canceled (twice), so Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga is

formed

- when the debilitated 8th lord aspects Lagna, Raja Yoga is formed (BPHS)

- Venus in the 9th in Opposition to the Moon in the 3rd, Raja Yoga is formed

- Counted from the Moon 8th lord Jupiter is strong in the 8th, Mars is in

the 3rd (planet of life force in the house of life force should enhance life

force) and 3rd lord Venus strong in the 7th in a sign of a great friend.

 

Dear Ilona, was Leonard blind? "The Sun in a trik house with the Lagn lord,

the native might have been born blind." (Samba Hora Praksha 14)

Also: malefics in the 5th and the 8th indicate epilepsy (Samba Hora Praksha

14/63)

His Mercury is very afflicted, so damages to nerves and the brain are

indicated.

6th lord Mars sits in the 5th (stomach) in Swati (the intestines, the

chest)so these body parts might have been afflicted by desease.

Rahu in the 2nd causes stomachial disorders. Rahu in the 2nd becomes a

Maraka, Venus as Dasha lord activated Rahu since Venus sits in Rahu's

Nakshatra.

Vyatipat in Randhr Bhava causes disorders of blood and deformity of eyes

(again)

 

One more question for anybody kind enough to answer: What is Bhojan Avastha?

(BPHS: Venus in Bhojan Avastha = distressed due to hunger, diseases and many

kinds of fear from enemies. But also: "If a malific is in Bhojan Avastha,

everything related to the bhava concerned will be destroyed and there is no

need of a second thought.")

 

I close for tonight, looking forward to feed back and answers to my

questions.

 

With best wishes,

yours,

Liliana

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Dear friends, dear Liliana, you sly fox!

(...Obviously he has died, otherwise Ilona wouldn`t have mailed this birth

data as a reaction to Gautam`s mail....)

Yes, Leonard died on febr. 9. 1999 at 11:35AM in the arms of his mother, in

hospital due to his multiple handicaps. He was born with a wrong set of

chromosomes and suffered from several troubles, like a failure of heart,

perhaps he also was blind, he could not swallow, there was lack of one

auricle. This day his parents decided to take him home and all tubes had

been removed.

Since this day his mother does no more fear death!

Leonard`s conception took place under stationary neptune, who later was in

his 8th house with ketu and all the others. For my opinion this neptune and

ketu led to the doctor`s assumption that pregnancy was OK, though mother was

declared as high-risk pregnancy because she had just another stillborn boy

in 30th week.

So neptune could produce this hidden chaos.

Liliana, you mentioned all these powerful remedies and my thoughts firstly

were the same, hence also Baby Boy Grossberg has some of these factors in

his chart. For example both have Arishta banga and Hamsayoga. Now I could

imagine, that inspite of suffering here on earth, perhaps it will be better

for these two boys, to change there form of living? Would you agree?

In this sence I will ask you, liliana, Visti, Gautam and please, please some

others of the list, who like to work researching, to take a look at the

chart of this child and to discuss it later: ( health and early death)

Lena Amelie, june 11th 1998 14:05 PM in Hannover, germany zone 1 + 1hour DST

9E44 52N24

 

Dear listmembers, I will also ask you for some other dates of babys who died

within their first 14 days, as I saw some significant similarities in these

two cases. But before I share this with you, I would like to confirm it by

several charts.

Best wishes, Ilona