Intelligent thinking

[Guest guest]

Dear Robert, Visti, et al,

 

The very clear message I'm getting from your postings is that the ability

for clear, inspirational, intelligent thinking lived and died along with the

ancient rishis, and that it's not possible then for anyone following to

think for themselves. This mentality flies in the face of such statements

as; "the source of knowledge (the home of all knowledge) lies within us

all"...waiting to be tapped! Your notion that none of us are really capable

of any (individual) clear thinking is in direct contrast to what the

(genuine) Gurus teach us.

 

Certain fanatical religious groups have this same understanding...they

preach endlessly (and sincerely believing it to be so, which is the sad

thing) that the kingdom of God can be found only through Christ; that it

somehow exists only in him. Other individuals believe just as emphatically

that "truth" can only be found by following THEIR particular Guru.

Where-in-fact the teachings of Christ and all (genuine) Gurus is that "the

kingdom of God" or "the home of all knowledge" IS WITHIN US ALL!

 

Such blind dogma as I've seen put forward recently is what's buried the

flame of truth for centuries past. We can never thank the sages enough for

the wisdom they have passed on to us and all respect must be given to them

for that, but let's not suffer endlessly under the illusion that we do not

possess that same inner light.

 

Best Regards

Wendy

[Guest guest]

Namaste,

 

This is not their message.

 

It is a known principle that with any science you must learn the

tools before you can begin to come up with your own principles or

criticize the masters in the field.

 

What is the point of someone with a grade 8 algebra knowledge trying

to prove that Stephen Hawking or Einstein is incorrect with their

math?

 

Is this possible?

 

If the child is a genius, then he can debate and argue effectively

the algebra formulas with Einstein; but that is where he must stop.

He cannot debate whether or not calculus works, until he learns it.

 

They are not being dogmatic or fanatical by suggesting that jyotishis

should learn the rules before criticizing. This is common sense.

 

The rishis and gurus actually DO preach that knowledge and learning

is the key to enlightenment, not limited thinking. Take a man living

in a small hole all his life; even with a genius intellect, without

learning, how can he come to the right conclusions about anything?

 

Dogma comes not from larger understanding, but from conclusions made

from a small understanding, which is not what they are suggesting at

all.

 

Robert and Visti are great teachers and are doing us all the favour

of introducing to us lesser used, but effective, principles in

jyotish, which can only expand understanding, not hamper it.

 

Thank you guys,

 

Alex J

 

gjlist, "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas@o...> wrote:

> Dear Robert, Visti, et al,

>

> The very clear message I'm getting from your postings is that the

ability

> for clear, inspirational, intelligent thinking lived and died along

with the

> ancient rishis, and that it's not possible then for anyone

following to

> think for themselves. This mentality flies in the face of such

statements

> as; "the source of knowledge (the home of all knowledge) lies

within us

> all"...waiting to be tapped! Your notion that none of us are really

capable

> of any (individual) clear thinking is in direct contrast to what the

> (genuine) Gurus teach us.

>

> Certain fanatical religious groups have this same

understanding...they

> preach endlessly (and sincerely believing it to be so, which is the

sad

> thing) that the kingdom of God can be found only through Christ;

that it

> somehow exists only in him. Other individuals believe just as

emphatically

> that "truth" can only be found by following THEIR particular Guru.

> Where-in-fact the teachings of Christ and all (genuine) Gurus is

that "the

> kingdom of God" or "the home of all knowledge" IS WITHIN US ALL!

>

> Such blind dogma as I've seen put forward recently is what's buried

the

> flame of truth for centuries past. We can never thank the sages

enough for

> the wisdom they have passed on to us and all respect must be given

to them

> for that, but let's not suffer endlessly under the illusion that we

do not

> possess that same inner light.

>

> Best Regards

> Wendy