Guest guest Posted May 2, 2001 Report Share Posted May 2, 2001 Jaya Jagannath Namaste Manoj. I felt there could have been an inacuracy in the chart hence I decided to check the indications. I rely very strongly on this "technique" for rectifying charts, so I would be very suprised if I was wrong about the sex of the children. Either I made a mistake or the chart would be inacurate. + Saptamsa + If I move the birth time back 4 minutes, the Saptamsa lagna changes but not the Navamsa lagna. So I've used 9:51 PM. - Sex/birth of Children - Virgo becomes lagna and is an even sign, hence first child is seen from 9th house, 2nd from 7th and etc. Keep in mind that the Maraka for Children in this chart is 10th lord Mercury, but as it also becomes Putra Karaka, it does no harm. 1st Child; is seen from 9th house and lord. 9th house is taurus, occupied by Ketu(lord of Putra Pada) and Putra karaka Mercury. Mars aspects it. Mercury and Ketu seem to protect the childbirth. the sex is seen from the 9th lord Venus. Venus is in Sag, conjoined Sun(male), Moon(female) and Saturn(female). The vast amount of planets could produce a male child as the XY cromosones are harder to produce. 2nd Child; is seen from the 7th house/lord. 7th is aspected by a vareity of planets, which don't seem strong enough to ruin its indications. 7th lord is Jupiter and in Aqua a female sign, hence female child is produced. + Timing + I'll explain the calculations for calclating the Narayana Dasa's from Saptamsa in this case. - Calculations - The length of each Saptamsa Sign is found in the same mannor as Chara Dasa's. / Start Sign \ The start sign is seen from; The stronger of 7th Rasi lord in Saptamsa, and the 7th Saptamsa therefrom. Venus lords 7th in Rasi and is in Sag. The strong of Sg and Ge, is Sg with more planets. / Sequence \ Sg is a dual sign. A rider states that Saturn makes the dasa's zodiacal and forward. As Saturn is in Sag this would manifest, however Sun is also placed here, denying Saturn of this. As Saturn can never dominate over Sun. Hence sequence is as per Trikona Dasa's. I had made the sequence mistake in previous assesment. - Saptamsa Narayana Dasa - The Maha Dasa's: # Rasi Age Year 1 Sg 0 1963 2 Ar 2 1965 3 Le 8 1971 4 Vi 16 1979 5 Cp 20 1983 6 Ta 21 1984 7 Ge 28 1991 8 Li 39 2002 --- snippit --- Summary of Maha Dasa's: Both births happend in Taurus Maha Dasa. Taurus is the 9th house, and natural indicator of childbirth in female charts. Taurus has Putra Karaka and lord of Putra Pada(A5), Ketu. Definitely a strong indicator of childbirths. Antar Dasa's: The Antar Dasa's begin from the lord of the stronger between Dasa Rasi and 7th therefrom. Between Ta and Sc, Ta has more grahas and is stronger. The lord of taurus, Venus is in Sg and odd sign. Hence the Dasa's should be regular and forward. However Ketu is in the stronger Dasa Rasi, and reverses the sequence. So Antar Dasa's are: Sg, Sc, Li, etc. Antar Dasa's of Taurus: 1 Sg 09/1984 2 Sc 04/1985 3 Li 11/1985 4 Vi 06/1986 5 Le 01/1987 6 Cn 08/1987 7 Ge 03/1988 8 Ta 10/1988 9 Ar 05/1989 10 Pi 12/1989 11 Aq 07/1990 12 Cp 02/1991 09/1991 Summary of Antar Dasa's: The first birth; happened in the Antar Dasa of Cancer, no doubt. Containing the Arudha of the 1st chlid(A9), and aspected by Putra karaka; Mercury, Lord of Putra Pada; Ketu and Jupiter the natural indicator of children. Its lord is conjoined lord of 1st child as well. The second birth; happened in the Antar Dasa of Capricorn, which has the Arudha of the 2nd child(A7), and is aspected by Putra Karaka and Lord of Putra Pada. The lord of Capricorn is in parivartana with the lord of 2nd child(Jup). - Conclussion - To think that it took my calculation errors, and an inacurate chart to trigger all this. I hope the results are satisfactory for the members of the list. Could you please provide me with the exact birth dates, for my research in Tithi determination. And if available also the lagnas of the two children? Best wishes, Visti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2001 Report Share Posted May 5, 2001 Namaste Visti Very well explained. By extension, denial / future possibility of children could well be determined similarly. Following are the details of a couple, well known to me, so far unable to have a child : Male 19.08.1965 16:43 Andhra Pradesh 18:19 N 84:00 E Female 11.03.1968 22:56 Hyderabad 17:22 N 78:26 E Can they expect to become natural parents ? Should they think in terms of adoption ? Please have a look when convenient. Best wishes Anshu - "Visti Larsen" <vlarsen "gjlist " <gjlist> Wednesday, 02 May, 2001 05:44 AM [gjlist] Manojs Childbirth Chart(continued) > Jaya Jagannath > > Namaste Manoj. > I felt there could have been an inacuracy in the chart hence I decided to > check the indications. > > I rely very strongly on this "technique" for rectifying charts, so I would > be very suprised if I was wrong about the sex of the children. Either I made > a mistake or the chart would be inacurate. > > + Saptamsa + > If I move the birth time back 4 minutes, the Saptamsa lagna changes but not > the Navamsa lagna. So I've used 9:51 PM. > > - Sex/birth of Children - > Virgo becomes lagna and is an even sign, hence first child is seen from 9th > house, 2nd from 7th and etc. > > Keep in mind that the Maraka for Children in this chart is 10th lord > Mercury, but as it also becomes Putra Karaka, it does no harm. > > 1st Child; is seen from 9th house and lord. 9th house is taurus, occupied by > Ketu(lord of Putra Pada) and Putra karaka Mercury. Mars aspects it. Mercury > and Ketu seem to protect the childbirth. the sex is seen from the 9th lord > Venus. Venus is in Sag, conjoined Sun(male), Moon(female) and > Saturn(female). The vast amount of planets could produce a male child as the > XY cromosones are harder to produce. > > 2nd Child; is seen from the 7th house/lord. 7th is aspected by a vareity of > planets, which don't seem strong enough to ruin its indications. 7th lord is > Jupiter and in Aqua a female sign, hence female child is produced. > > + Timing + > I'll explain the calculations for calclating the Narayana Dasa's from > Saptamsa in this case. > > - Calculations - > The length of each Saptamsa Sign is found in the same mannor as Chara > Dasa's. > > / Start Sign \ > The start sign is seen from; The stronger of 7th Rasi lord in Saptamsa, and > the 7th Saptamsa therefrom. > Venus lords 7th in Rasi and is in Sag. The strong of Sg and Ge, is Sg with > more planets. > > / Sequence \ > Sg is a dual sign. A rider states that Saturn makes the dasa's zodiacal and > forward. As Saturn is in Sag this would manifest, however Sun is also placed > here, denying Saturn of this. As Saturn can never dominate over Sun. Hence > sequence is as per Trikona Dasa's. > > I had made the sequence mistake in previous assesment. > > - Saptamsa Narayana Dasa - > > The Maha Dasa's: > > # Rasi Age Year > 1 Sg 0 1963 > 2 Ar 2 1965 > 3 Le 8 1971 > 4 Vi 16 1979 > 5 Cp 20 1983 > 6 Ta 21 1984 > 7 Ge 28 1991 > 8 Li 39 2002 > --- snippit --- > > Summary of Maha Dasa's: > Both births happend in Taurus Maha Dasa. Taurus is the 9th house, and > natural indicator of childbirth in female charts. Taurus has Putra Karaka > and lord of Putra Pada(A5), Ketu. Definitely a strong indicator of > childbirths. > > Antar Dasa's: > The Antar Dasa's begin from the lord of the stronger between Dasa Rasi and > 7th therefrom. > Between Ta and Sc, Ta has more grahas and is stronger. > > The lord of taurus, Venus is in Sg and odd sign. Hence the Dasa's should be > regular and forward. However Ketu is in the stronger Dasa Rasi, and reverses > the sequence. So Antar Dasa's are: Sg, Sc, Li, etc. > > Antar Dasa's of Taurus: > 1 Sg 09/1984 > 2 Sc 04/1985 > 3 Li 11/1985 > 4 Vi 06/1986 > 5 Le 01/1987 > 6 Cn 08/1987 > 7 Ge 03/1988 > 8 Ta 10/1988 > 9 Ar 05/1989 > 10 Pi 12/1989 > 11 Aq 07/1990 > 12 Cp 02/1991 > 09/1991 > > Summary of Antar Dasa's: > > The first birth; happened in the Antar Dasa of Cancer, no doubt. Containing > the Arudha of the 1st chlid(A9), and aspected by Putra karaka; Mercury, Lord > of Putra Pada; Ketu and Jupiter the natural indicator of children. > Its lord is conjoined lord of 1st child as well. > > The second birth; happened in the Antar Dasa of Capricorn, which has the > Arudha of the 2nd child(A7), and is aspected by Putra Karaka and Lord of > Putra Pada. The lord of Capricorn is in parivartana with the lord of 2nd > child(Jup). > > - Conclussion - > To think that it took my calculation errors, and an inacurate chart to > trigger all this. I hope the results are satisfactory for the members of the > list. Could you please provide me with the exact birth dates, for my > research in Tithi determination. And if available also the lagnas of the two > children? > > Best wishes, Visti. > > > > > > > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2001 Report Share Posted May 8, 2001 Dear Visti, >I felt there could have been an inacuracy in the chart hence I decided to >check the indications. I rely very strongly on this "technique" for >rectifying charts, so I would be very suprised if I was wrong about the sex >of the children. Either I made a mistake or the chart would be inacurate.> I have been giving predictions to this lady for over 6 years now and all my predictions based on the same time of birth have gone correct. I never start examining a chart unless and untill I verify some of his/her past events. So there is no need for you to go on correcting the time of birth, which has been verified by a Nadi Astrologer also. Forget postmortems. If you want I can offer other charts to you for trying out your technique of rectification/prediction. >+ Timing + >I'll explain the calculations for calclating the Narayana Dasa's from >Saptamsa in this case.> Hahhahahahaha, could not stop laughing, pardon me for that. Manoj _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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