Guest guest Posted May 2, 2001 Report Share Posted May 2, 2001 Namaste Mani, >Dear Robert, > >Thank you very much for clarification. I admire your patience and >thoroughness >in giving such clear explanations. I wish I could get some book where 5 >charts >are fully analysed using all the methods, only predictive, irrespective of >whether they fit actual events. They could even be fictive charts. Then a >beginner could just try out everything and find out. At present the info >is so >scattered, I don´t know when I´ll be able to read and learn. But the >consolation: I don´t need to learn at all! You are welcome, and yes, the idea you have presented above would be an ideal research model to show the interconnections of different dasas, vis a vis known life events. You know, its all a matter of time. But the idea is good - to put together a logical thesis on which dasas should operate versus which events, and show the results of the research in the form of a book. I am currently working on two books, neither one of which is near completion yet, but your idea above sounds like a good third one. Vimsottari dasa is widely used, yet the sages, particularly Parasara and Jaimini, present use of particular dasas, for particular purposes. For example, there is Shoola dasa to time disease and death; there is Drig dasa to time spiritual events; there is Sudasa, to time periods of prosperity. How to calculate these is presented in the various books, yet the research on them is yet to be done. Since already we see that such dasas work, its just a matter of time and effort to put the studies down in writing. Thanks for your energy and input! Best wishes, Robert ===================================== Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer 760 NW Broken Arrow Rd. Bend, OR. 97701-9037 Phone: 541-318-0248 visit <http://www.robertkoch.com> or e-mail rk. rk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2001 Report Share Posted May 3, 2001 Namaste Robert, It is both a learning experience and a pleasure reading your mails. Permit me to complement you on the same. I would like to know more about the Sudasa, Drigdasa and Shoola dasa that you have mentioned below. Please let me have the reference of books that you suggest for these. Best wishes Anshu - "Robert A. Koch" <rkoch <gjlist> Wednesday, 02 May, 2001 07:17 PM [gjlist] Re: Astrology: Mani Namaste Mani, >Dear Robert, > >Thank you very much for clarification. I admire your patience and >thoroughness >in giving such clear explanations. I wish I could get some book where 5 >charts >are fully analysed using all the methods, only predictive, irrespective of >whether they fit actual events. They could even be fictive charts. Then a >beginner could just try out everything and find out. At present the info >is so >scattered, I don´t know when I´ll be able to read and learn. But the >consolation: I don´t need to learn at all! You are welcome, and yes, the idea you have presented above would be an ideal research model to show the interconnections of different dasas, vis a vis known life events. You know, its all a matter of time. But the idea is good - to put together a logical thesis on which dasas should operate versus which events, and show the results of the research in the form of a book. I am currently working on two books, neither one of which is near completion yet, but your idea above sounds like a good third one. Vimsottari dasa is widely used, yet the sages, particularly Parasara and Jaimini, present use of particular dasas, for particular purposes. For example, there is Shoola dasa to time disease and death; there is Drig dasa to time spiritual events; there is Sudasa, to time periods of prosperity. How to calculate these is presented in the various books, yet the research on them is yet to be done. Since already we see that such dasas work, its just a matter of time and effort to put the studies down in writing. Thanks for your energy and input! Best wishes, Robert ===================================== Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer 760 NW Broken Arrow Rd. Bend, OR. 97701-9037 Phone: 541-318-0248 visit <http://www.robertkoch.com> or e-mail rk. rk gjlist- Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2001 Report Share Posted May 3, 2001 Namaste Anshu, At 09:47 AM 5/3/01 -0700, you wrote: >Namaste Robert, > >It is both a learning experience and a pleasure reading your mails. Permit >me to complement you on the same. Thank you - it is my pleasure to serve. >I would like to know more about the Sudasa, Drigdasa and Shoola dasa that >you have mentioned below. Please let me have the reference of books that you >suggest for these. > >Best wishes > >Anshu The above dasa systems are taught in the Parasara Hora shastra, as well as in the Jaimini Sutram. There is also an on-line Jyotish college, head-mastered by Pt. Sanjay Rath, wherein the practical uses of these dasas systems is taught. Please go on-line to http://www.sjvc.org. for information. This is the web site of Sri Jagannatha Vedic Center, where you can register and study in depth. Many astrologers used multiple dasa systems, in addition to the popular Vimsottari. There are dasas requiring specific conditions that are given, and there are dasas used for specific purposes. Simply using Vimsottari alone, only scratches the surface so far as the world of predictive techniques taught by Parasara and other sages. Shoola dasa, for example, and Navamsa dasa, are meant to be applied only when there are longevity determinations. There are others that can be learned, such as Padakrama dasa (Narayana dasa), and Lagna Kendradi Rasi dasa, which apply in general matters, and they are very accurate. So if you have the energy and enthusiasm, I would recommend learning the calculations, and application of all such dasas, and they can be learned under Sri Sanjay Rath and Jagannath Vedic Center. Also, you can read the following books which describe the uses of these dasas, both by Sanjay Rath: 1. Maharshi Jaimini Upadesa Sutras; 2. Crux of Vedic Astrology, Timing of Events You can get these easily and quickly at the following: www.astroamerica.com Best wishes, Robert ===================================== Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer 760 NW Broken Arrow Rd. Bend, OR. 97701-9037 Phone: 541-318-0248 visit <http://www.robertkoch.com> or e-mail rk. rk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2001 Report Share Posted May 4, 2001 Robert A. Koch wrote: > Namaste Mani, > > You are welcome, and yes, the idea you have presented above would be an > ideal research model to show the interconnections of different dasas, vis a > vis known life events. ...... I am currently working on two books, neither one of which is near > completion yet, but your idea above sounds like a good third one. > Dear Robert, Glad you don´t find my idea stupid! Actually there is another hole to fill: I have a lot of books which I got sent from India, by varahamihira etc. hoping to be able to digest them But since my profession is not astrology, I never found time to digest everything. I found that these were all aphorisms to learn by heart, not really textbooks to teach - let alone self-teaching. A teacher had to explain the aphorisms. Now, to get to the subject in a modern way, one needs an index. If one had an index and looked up all the verses under "marriage" or "education" one may get somewhere. But the savants who laboriously translated the works never thought of providing any indices for reference. Some do not even have a detailed table of contents, only say wchich chapter begins on which page! As is usual with most textbooks, the given examples are too simple, the ones which really need explanation are not dealt with. ... "If a malefic occupies the 5th ...etc. " ... but what is malefic? With my taurus Ac, jupiter becomes a malefic. Is jupiter meant, or a natural malefic like saturn? Now saturn is yogakaraka and jupiter my atmakaraka! So where do I stand? The problem is that all the books were written, later translated and commented FOR ASTROLOGERS! NOT BEGINNERS! In the university I had a big problem learning calculus. My teacher was over-qualified and useless, spoke over our heads. The recommended textbooks were just as bad. Then I found a book called the "Fool´s Caculus". The author started by saying, "I am a fool, but have learnt calculus. What one fool can do, another can too!" This book was full of humour, but dealt with the problems a learner would have wonderfully - and I learned calculus! That is what is needed. People like Frawley, Houck and Levacy have started this method, but the reference books have to be revised to suit and support. regards Mani > Vimsottari dasa is widely used, yet the sages, particularly Parasara and > Jaimini, present use of particular dasas, for particular purposes. For > example, there is Shoola dasa to time disease and death; there is Drig dasa > to time spiritual events; there is Sudasa, to time periods of > prosperity. How to calculate these is presented in the various books, yet > the research on them is yet to be done. Since already we see that such > dasas work, its just a matter of time and effort to put the studies down in > writing. > > Thanks for your energy and input! > > Best wishes, > Robert > > ===================================== > Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer > 760 NW Broken Arrow Rd. > Bend, OR. 97701-9037 > Phone: 541-318-0248 > visit <http://www.robertkoch.com> or e-mail > rk. rk > > > > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2001 Report Share Posted May 4, 2001 Namaste Robert, Thank you. Best wishes Anshu - "Robert A. Koch" <rkoch <gjlist> Thursday, 03 May, 2001 12:16 PM Re: [gjlist] Re: Astrology: Mani > Namaste Anshu, > > At 09:47 AM 5/3/01 -0700, you wrote: > >Namaste Robert, > > > >It is both a learning experience and a pleasure reading your mails. Permit > >me to complement you on the same. > > Thank you - it is my pleasure to serve. > > >I would like to know more about the Sudasa, Drigdasa and Shoola dasa that > >you have mentioned below. Please let me have the reference of books that you > >suggest for these. > > > >Best wishes > > > >Anshu > > The above dasa systems are taught in the Parasara Hora shastra, as well as > in the Jaimini Sutram. There is also an on-line Jyotish college, > head-mastered by Pt. Sanjay Rath, wherein the practical uses of these dasas > systems is taught. Please go on-line to http://www.sjvc.org. for > information. This is the web site of Sri Jagannatha Vedic Center, where > you can register and study in depth. > > Many astrologers used multiple dasa systems, in addition to the popular > Vimsottari. There are dasas requiring specific conditions that are given, > and there are dasas used for specific purposes. Simply using Vimsottari > alone, only scratches the surface so far as the world of predictive > techniques taught by Parasara and other sages. Shoola dasa, for example, > and Navamsa dasa, are meant to be applied only when there are longevity > determinations. There are others that can be learned, such as Padakrama > dasa (Narayana dasa), and Lagna Kendradi Rasi dasa, which apply in general > matters, and they are very accurate. So if you have the energy and > enthusiasm, I would recommend learning the calculations, and application of > all such dasas, and they can be learned under Sri Sanjay Rath and Jagannath > Vedic Center. > > Also, you can read the following books which describe the uses of these > dasas, both by Sanjay Rath: > > 1. Maharshi Jaimini Upadesa Sutras; > 2. Crux of Vedic Astrology, Timing of Events > > You can get these easily and quickly at the following: > > www.astroamerica.com > > > Best wishes, > Robert > > ===================================== > Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer > 760 NW Broken Arrow Rd. > Bend, OR. 97701-9037 > Phone: 541-318-0248 > visit <http://www.robertkoch.com> or e-mail > rk. rk > > > > gjlist- > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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