Sagittarius or Scorpio ?

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Namaste Alex, Wendy et al,

 

Reference the contents below, maybe you could help me out.

 

I have the birth details of October 1988, when Scorpio is just setting and

Sagittarius is rising. Saturn was in Sagittarius then. The child had the

umbilical chord coiled around his neck, perhaps necessitating a scessarian

birth that may otherwise have been a normal delivery.

 

In case Sagittarius having Saturn posited therein is taken as the lagna,

navamsa will be that of Aries, while in the case of Scorpio the navamsa will

be Pisces.

 

Any suggestions whether the lagna is Sagittarius or Scorpio ?

 

Regards

 

Anshu

 

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Saturday, 28 April, 2001 06:27 AM

[gjlist] Re: Divisional Charts

 

 

> Namaste Wendy,

>

> It is true that the divisional charts only deliver effects in the

> areas of life they control. However, Navamsa controls all aspects of

> life, as does the rasi, but has the power to give its results over

> the Rasi, which has not been attributed to the other divisional

> charts.

>

> Many of the important classics say that the Navamsa positions may

> supercede that of the rasi. I'll list a few:

>

> HORA SARA

>

> "The results for Rashi and amsha positions have thus been said and

> the predictions should be based on whichever is stronger. Should they

> be equal in strength one should assume balanced results."

>

> Jataka Parijata

>

> "Planets produce depression effects if they occupy in their

> exaltation signs the Navamsha belonging in their depression signs.

> Planets produce exaltation effects if in their depression signs they

> occupy the Navamsha of their exaltation signs."

>

> This clearly shows that the Navamsa can be more powerful to give

> results than Rasi.

>

> BRIHAT PARASARA HORA SASTRA

>

> "Coiled Birth: If there be a birth in one of Aries, Taurus, and Leo

> Lagnas containing either Saturn or Mars, the birth of the child is

> with a coil around a limb. The corresponding limb will be in

> accordance with the Rashi or Navamsha rising."

>

> Here it is shown that preference can clearly be given to Navamsa

> indications of the body/lagna.

>

> BRIHAT JATAKA

>

> "If, at the time of birth, the sign Aries, Vrisa, or Leo be the

> rising sign ,and if it be occupied by Mars or Saturn, then the child

> born will be coiled round by the umbilical cord on that part of its

> body corresponding to that of the Zodiacal Man indicated by the

> rising Navamsha."

>

> Here preference is given to navamsa only.

>

> "The birth will occur in places represented by the rising sign or

> Navamshas, whichever is powerful."

>

> "The child resembles, in structure and other peculiarities of the

> body, the ruler of the rising Navamsha or the Ascendant."

>

> regards,

>

> Alex J

>

> gjlist, "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas@o...> wrote:

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > As with many of the techniques used in jyotish, there seems to be

> great

> > variance of opinions regarding the use of divisional charts. Some

> adhere to

> > the theory that the divisional charts actually override (supersede)

> the

> > Rashi. This, to my mind, flies in the face of common sense. I think

> Manoj

> > made the point that the divisional charts (as divisions of the

> Rashi) cannot

> > deliver what is not promised in the Rashi to start with. This I

> agree with

> > but would like to elaborate a bit.

> >

> > When determining the outcome of dasas, subdasas, etc; the position

> and

> > strength of the (dasa) lords in the vargas will tell how those

> particular

> > areas of life will fare during that time.

> >

> > For instance, during a Saturn dasa in 6th house, a native

> experienced

> > several marriages and several divorces. In the navamsha Saturn &

> Venus are

> > well placed in 2nd house (giving marriages), but the aspect of 8th

> lord Mars

> > brought separation and divorce. The Rashi chart of course supports

> numerous

> > marriages with 12th lord Jupiter conjunct Rahu in 7th house of

> marriage. But

> > why didn't this manifest during the preceding Jupiter dasa as one

> might

> > suppose.

> >

> > The navamsha gives the answer of course. In navamsha Rahu and

> Jupiter form a

> > beneficial yoga in the 5th house...married life fared well during

> this time.

> >

> > I'm not attempting to belittle the importance, or minimise the use

> of the

> > divisional charts but to use them in place of, and in preference to

> the

> > Rashi is ludicrous to my mind.

> >

> > Regards

> > Wendy

>

>

>

> gjlist-

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