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Hi Karen and All:

 

Just to comment on Karen's answer here.

 

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>Chart 1: In rasi the native has Taurus (short, well-set, full face, small

>eyes, thick neck) rising with merc(short, literary skills) aspected by moon

>(short,round face, fair skin). The lagna lord Venus ( natural karaka of

>beauty)is exalted in Pisces with Jupiter and aspected by Saturn in

>Capricorn. Second from Lagna is gemini, lord in first, aspected by jup ans

>exalted venus by rasi dristiThese seem like good beauty indicators to me.

>In navamsa, Pisces is rising with merc again, (she's smart!) aspected by

>Saturn(taller) and Jupiter(tall). The lagna lord, Jup is conjoined moon and

>sun. The arudha lagna, others perception of her,is Virgo has saturn and

>ketu aspected by merc, nothing dramatic. My guess at appearance: mod

>height, fair skin, average looks and smart

 

His height is fairly tall, around 6' with fair skin and he is very smart.

 

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>Chart 2: In rasi, Taurus is rising with Jupiter and lagna lord,Venus is in

>3rd with debilitated Mars. Jupiter in lagna can make one prone to being

>overweight. Second from lagna ( ruling face and mouth) has Rahu, which can

>make for bad teeth. In Navamsa, Gemini is rising aspected by Saturn(taller).

>Lagna lord, mercury (short)in second house with mars(short) and aspected by

>debilitated Jupiter (tall, plump).

>Hmm.. moderately short, chubby and bad teeth.

 

She IS quite short, maybe 5'3 or so, a slighty heavier than average,

although she "carries it well" as the euphemism goes. Her teeth are perfect.

 

>Arudha lagna is virgo with moon aspected by Jupiter. These are better

>beauty indicators, but I don't see it in the Rasi.

 

Yes, I agree -- arudha lagna with Moon in it seems favourable. It

underscores how important AL may be.

 

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>Chart 3. In rasi, Pisces rising (short stature, thick build,soft eyes)

>aspected by

>Saturn (tall and thin). Lagna lord Jupiter in 3rd. Second house(ruling

>face) has venus aspected by moon which could make a pretty face.

>In navamsa, Cancer rising (mod stature, round face, fair complexion) with

>merc(short, smart)and ketu (tall) aspected by Jupiter.

>>From arudha lagna, we have cancer with merc and ketu. Arudha lord, moon is

>aspected my venus this could add to perceived beauty

>My guess: moderate height and build with fair skin and pretty face.

 

Chart 3 belongs to a female professor who is quite tall for a Thai (5'7)

with a medium build. She has an average complexion and is quite plain.

One might have thought that lagnesh Jupiter in a venus-ruled sign and Moon

(in Libra) and Venus in mutual aspect might have conferred beauty. In

addition, she has some skin discolouration on her face, which is seemingly

incongruous with Venus in the 2nd, but not when you remember that it rules

3rd and 8th houses and is malefic for Pisces ascendants. 2L Mars is also

combust and aspected by Saturn. Interesting that you noted arudha lord Moon

having the Venus aspect; one could have just was well noted that arudha

lagna Cancer containing Mercury and Ketu. Is the glass half empty or half

full? :-)

 

Using Venus as karaka, 10th is Capricorn which contains Rahu, not a

beauty-conferring planet. Capricorn ruler Saturn is in the 6th in Virgo, so

that further weakens the beauty story I should think.

 

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>So, still hard to decide between 1 and 3.

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>However , if you look at the chart using Jaimini's rules, (see Upadesa

>Sutras)

>The stronger between lagna and sun denotes the body and the stronger between

>the moon and 2nd from lagna denote the face.

 

I'll forego commenting on this, since I don't know much about Jaimini's

rules. Thanks for participating. I hope that you and others on this list

will post your own tests. I feel that blind tests are great learning tools

and force us to come to grips with the bizarre, unorthodox reality that

defies our often complacent astrological assumptions.

 

Chris

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Dear Chris,

 

Thanks again for the challenge and your comments. See, that 's the thing

with using completely blind charts for beauty. It's having to guess what

*you* find attractive and that's subjective. You and I being Westerners, I

was using the classic Western supermodel standard i.e. tall, thin with

gorgeous face.

I appreciate the exercise as I never guessed appearances before.

I'll try to come up with a challenge of my own since I also think it's a fun

way to learn and hone one's skills.

 

Be Well,

Karen

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