Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 Hello Chris et al, I read the posts regarding Saturn's role in determining "beauty" with interest and must say, for as many charts that can be found displaying this principle, many can also be found that nullify it. Just one of several examples I have is the chart of Divine Mother "Ammachi" (devotees please don't rush to the defence here, I mean no disrespect). The fine spiritual qualities of Ammachi are without question, however by no stretch of the imagination would she be described as a startling beauty. She has yogakaraka Saturn Exalted (in Venus's sign Libra) in Ascendant. This seems to be a bit at odds with what Robert wrote: Quote: "1. There is almost always either a conjunction, or a strong aspectual relationship between Venus and Saturn, provided Saturn is a functional benefic for the horoscope" Now I will admit that Saturn is neither conjunct nor physically aspecting Venus, but the relationship is just as strong (if not more so) with Saturn in Venus's moolatrikona sign in the ascendant, I would think. Another example is Shirley MacLaine with Saturn in Aquarius conjunct Venus. Her attractiveness is skilfully applied with false eyelashes etc...take all that away and she's not a real "natural" beauty...mind you Saturn is not yogakaraka, but his conjunction with 9th lord Venus would certainly lift his auspiciousness. Another native well known to me has Aquarius rising with Saturn aspecting Venus...she never has been what you'd call attractive, even in her prime. I take the liberty of quoting Robert again: "3. Capricorn rising alone, gives exceptional feminine beauty." I have the chart of a Capricorn native, who also has Venus (well placed) in 11th, she's too is anything but attractive. When judging appearance (beauty), I don't think there can be any one hard and fast rule...like baking a cake, there are many ingredients. Regards Wendy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 Hi! Have been reading re. beauty with a bit of amusement, Wendy and Ann have given me laugh "Beauty lies (LIES) in the lover´s eyes!" What amused me most was the reference to the British royal family as a bunch of beauties! Queen Mom was a beauty in her das, and Lord Louis Mountbatten was certainly handsome. But the others .....! regards Mani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 Hello everybody, Namaste - Wendy wrote: >Hello Chris et al, > >I read the posts regarding Saturn's role in determining "beauty" with >interest and must say, for as many charts that can be found displaying this >principle, many can also be found that nullify it. Just one of several >examples I have is the chart of Divine Mother "Ammachi" (devotees please >don't rush to the defence here, I mean no disrespect). The fine spiritual >qualities of Ammachi are without question, however by no stretch of the >imagination would she be described as a startling beauty. She has yogakaraka >Saturn Exalted (in Venus's sign Libra) in Ascendant. This seems to be a bit >at odds with what Robert wrote: > >Quote: "1. There is almost always either a conjunction, or a strong >aspectual relationship between Venus and Saturn, provided Saturn is a >functional benefic for the horoscope" > >Now I will admit that Saturn is neither conjunct nor physically aspecting >Venus, but the relationship is just as strong (if not more so) with Saturn >in Venus's moolatrikona sign in the ascendant, I would think. First of all, you cannot confuse what is generically meant by physical beauty, and spiritual beauty. There is just no comparison between the two. Obviously the principle of beauty is going to manifest differently in Amachi, as opposed to Marilyn Monroe. The former does not flaunt her feminine features in order to attract, whereas the latter does. So you will see strong, yogakaraka connections between both Saturn and Venus in both persons. I have had the opportunity to look straight into Amachi's eyes, and I can tell you, that I haven't seen too many worldly women with that kind of beauty. Anyway, coming to the point: It is clear that any astrological principle will not apply 100% of the time. If a principle applies consistently enough, then you can write about it, and others simply will experiment with the principle. Yes, there are no hard an fast rules; there are only consistencies that one observers over time, that one can have faith in. Finally, let me leave you with this challenge: find 10 charts of women with just Venus in Capricorn alone, and see what percentage are beautiful, or at least attractive. Then report back. If it is less than 50%, forget about what I wrote. If it is more than 50%, then it is worth looking deeper. Best wishes, Robert ===================================== Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer 760 NW Broken Arrow Rd. Bend, OR. 97701-9037 Phone: 541-318-0248 visit <http://www.robertkoch.com> or e-mail rk. rk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 Namaste Wendy, What is the Navamsa like? Depending on the strength of planets here, the native may appear like the Navmasa ascendant. For example the chart of a model I know has Navamsa ascendant Taurus, with Venus, Saturn and Jupiter aspecting. Rasi chart is Leo ascendant with Juptiter aspecting. regards, Alex J gjlist, "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas@o...> wrote: > Hello Chris et al, > > I read the posts regarding Saturn's role in determining "beauty" with > interest and must say, for as many charts that can be found displaying this > principle, many can also be found that nullify it. Just one of several > examples I have is the chart of Divine Mother "Ammachi" (devotees please > don't rush to the defence here, I mean no disrespect). The fine spiritual > qualities of Ammachi are without question, however by no stretch of the > imagination would she be described as a startling beauty. She has yogakaraka > Saturn Exalted (in Venus's sign Libra) in Ascendant. This seems to be a bit > at odds with what Robert wrote: > > Quote: "1. There is almost always either a conjunction, or a strong > aspectual relationship between Venus and Saturn, provided Saturn is a > functional benefic for the horoscope" > > Now I will admit that Saturn is neither conjunct nor physically aspecting > Venus, but the relationship is just as strong (if not more so) with Saturn > in Venus's moolatrikona sign in the ascendant, I would think. > > Another example is Shirley MacLaine with Saturn in Aquarius conjunct Venus. > Her attractiveness is skilfully applied with false eyelashes etc...take all > that away and she's not a real "natural" beauty...mind you Saturn is not > yogakaraka, but his conjunction with 9th lord Venus would certainly lift his > auspiciousness. > Another native well known to me has Aquarius rising with Saturn aspecting > Venus...she never has been what you'd call attractive, even in her prime. > > I take the liberty of quoting Robert again: "3. Capricorn rising alone, > gives exceptional feminine beauty." > > I have the chart of a Capricorn native, who also has Venus (well placed) in > 11th, she's too is anything but attractive. > > When judging appearance (beauty), I don't think there can be any one hard > and fast rule...like baking a cake, there are many ingredients. > > Regards > Wendy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 Robert wrote: ============= First of all, you cannot confuse what is generically meant by physical beauty, and spiritual beauty. There is just no comparison between the two. Obviously the principle of beauty is going to manifest differently in Amachi, as opposed to Marilyn Monroe. The former does not flaunt her feminine features in order to attract, whereas the latter does. So you will see strong, yogakaraka connections between both Saturn and Venus in both persons. I have had the opportunity to look straight into Amachi's eyes, and I can tell you, that I haven't seen too many worldly women with that kind of beauty. ============================ This is true Robert, But we were discussing physical beauty particularly as seen from Lagna (physical body). Of course 1st also shows one's "innate nature" and therefore one can deduce spiritual qualities that are strongly expressed in one's nature. We know that both Saturn, the planet of renunciation, and divine planet Jupiter, have a big say in our spiritual nature, right?...scripture states that "Saturn (or lagnesh) aspecting Sun, indicator of Soul (Atma) gives strong spiritual tendencies", and of course it goes without saying that the same aspect from Jupiter enhances one's spirituality...so not difficult then to deduce the spiritual beauty of Ammachi with Jupiter aspecting Saturn in Lagna (from 9th). But this (as you said) cannot be compared with physical beauty, which is what we were discussing. If you take a look at Princess Diana's chart (using Scorpio Lagna), you'll see that she has SA/JU conjunct in Capricorn...it's widely accepted that she had a strong spiritual/compassionate personality...Capricorn owns 3rd house of desires, motivation, etc. We also know that (with strong Venus aspecting Lagna) she was the epitome of all that Venus represents. The genuine love and affection she so freely gave to all she met, along with her natural charm, beauty, style and grace, are a clear indication of the strong Venus influence on her Ascendant. I think we need to not lose sight of the natural significations of the planets when we're judging the effects of Lagna (or any house): Sun: Self, Soul Moon: Mind, Emotions Mars: Energy, Ambition Mercury:Intellect Jupiter:Religion, Compassion Venus: Beauty Saturn: Renunciation, Penance etc...... It's all too easy to lose sight of the basics and "not see the woods for the trees" when we start focusing on all the different rules laid out by the different sages...as I pointed out in a previous post; often there is some factor that will nullify these rules in certain charts...the rule (related to progeny) for instance in "Doctrines of Suka Nadi" However, the significations of the planets, along with their nature (due to lordship), is always the strongest foundation for judging the outcome of the houses concerned. Regards Wendy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2001 Report Share Posted April 24, 2001 Namaste Wendy, Interesting that you mentioned Diana's chart. It makes a fascinating study, as it clearly illustrates how things can be seen from the Arudha Lagna versus the Rasi ascendant. Her Arudha Lagna is Aquarius with Moon conjunct Ketu giving the appearance to others of an emotional, compassionate and spiritual philanthropist. The donations to charity and charitable work that she is known for are indicated by the two planet Jupiter and Saturn in the 12th from Arudha Lagna. Jupiter owns the 2nd and 11th houses, and Saturn the first, clearly showing the charity. The placement of the Moon in the ascendant, and Venus in his own sign in the 4th house of the heart as the 9th lord gives her the image of being extremely compassionate and warm-hearted. The bad rap that her husband gets, and the marital fiasco that she is also known for is denoted by Mars and Rahu in the 7th from Arudha Lagna. However her actual ascendant reveals a different story as it shows the true character that is not necessarily the same as the public image. To begin with the lagna is Tamsic Scorpio, and the Navamsa ascendant is Tamsic Aquarius, which gives the basic character mixture of a Mars/Saturn combination. The Trimsamsa ascendant is Capricorn, which agains combines these unhealthy energies. The ascendant lord is in rapt conjunction with Rahu, a twisted malefic, and Moon is caught in the grasp of the Rahu-Ketu axis, which is made worse by Mars' aspect. This alone shows that the character was not nearly as sterling as it appears. Further the ascendant lord receives no assistance in the Navamsa as he is in enemy's house aspected by his enemy and Rahu. The conjunction of the malefics in the 10th, involved in a terrible bandhana yoga, and the 10th lord going into the 8th house in enemy's sign with the strong 8th lord show that her actions denoted by the karma bhava were not good in reality. This combination of planets causes a very destructive bandhana yoga across the 4/10 axis, as there is an equal number of planets in the 4th and 10th. It is highly evil as the planets closely aspect each other, and they are malefic. Due to the nature of the planets, being the Moon and ascendant lord, we see that this yoga has a direct effect on her mind and person. This clearly indicates serious mental disturbances. The Navamsa chart shows the extent of this affliction, as the bandhana yoga occurs here again in the 4th/10th house, 5th/9th house, and the 3rd/11th house. This shows the bondage she was under. The Mars/Moon bandhana occurs in the 5th/9th showing mental/emotional disturbances. Jupiter/Mercury bandhana also affects the mental functions. The 4th/10th Rahu/Ketu Bandhana is a repetition of the Rasi chart and shows the bondage that her home life 4th and public image denoted by the 10th was under. All of the planets come under the sway of the malefics as they are hemmed between Saturn on one side and Mars/Rahu conjunction on the other. This is a primary cause of misfortune in her life. Jupiter the most auspicious and good planet in the chart suffers the worst affliction. He is placed in the 3rd house, which is the worst position for him being his death place or marana karaka sthana. Combined with debilitation and affliction from a Strong Saturn, being one of the worst planets for Scorpio, he is completely destroyed. That is why death occured in the Jupiter cycle, despite his yogakarak status. This is in sharp contrast to the indications of the Arudha Lagna Jupiter, the placement of which shows her public charity. While the Aquarius Arudha ascendant gives her the appearance of a person selfless and devoted to charity, her Scorpio lagna reveals a derious difference. The 7th house of desires is rendered very strong by the placement of materialist Venus in own house. Under the aspect of Jupiter, these desires are strengthened. The seventh shows the desires of the native, and in this case there can be no dispute that the desires are extremely strong, and strong for sensory pleasure as denoted by Venus in Earth sign Taurus. The rest of the Kama trikona, indicating desires is rendered powerful by 3rd lord Saturn in own sign, and 11th lord Gemini strong in own sign in one of his strongest houses. The dharma trikona is ruined by the 9th lord Moon and the 5th lord Mars' participation in the bandhana yoga with the nodes, and the position of 5th lord Jupiter, afflicted in his death house. This shows the overpowering of desires over correct action very clearly. Diana's chart is a very sad one due to the bondage yogas, and the other restrictive combinations. It shows an unhappy and distraught life. Nevertheless she is a great soul, as denoted by the Mahapurusa yoga, and the strength of her atmakaraka in the Shastiamsa, the chart of which is highly spiritual in disposition. Mars/Jupiter combination in Sagittarius denotes a Brahmin, and Sun/Ketu in Aquarius an evolved soul. Saturn exchanges with Mercury and goes into Capricorn completing a very spiritual combination denoted by Jupiter, Saturn and Ketu being in adjacent houses. The curse that she has suffered in this life is indicated by the combination of planets in 8th and the debilitated Jupiter. I can only hazard a guess as to the interpretation of this, but as Sun is the 10th lord and Jupiter is the 5th lord, this indicates a person of high status and great power. This person also would have been wealthy as denoted by Mercury in his own house, with Venus in the adjacent house. Warm Regards, Alex J PRINCESS DIANA Date of Birth: July 1, 1961 Time of Birth: 7:45:15 pm Time Zone of Birth: 1:00 East of GMT Longitude of Birth: 0 E 30 Latitude of Birth: 52 N 50 Planet Position Pada CharaK Resi OwnTara InTara Rasi Nava Naks Sub Ascdt 25 Sc 08 Jyeshtha 3 - - - Pratyak Ma Sa Me Rh Sun 16 Ge 21 Aardra 3 AmK 41% Mitra Sampat Me Sa Rh Ve Moon 1 Aq 40 Dhanishtha 3 GK 56% P.Mitra Janma Sa Ve Ma Me Mars 8 Le 19 Makha 3 PiK 12% Janma Sadhana Su Me Ke Ju Mercury ® 9 Ge 53 Aardra 1 MK 2% Pratyak Sampat Me Ju Rh Ju Jupiter ® 11 Cp 47 Sravanam 1 BK 11% Vipat P.Mitra Sa Ma Mo Ma Venus 1 Ta 05 Krittika 2 DK 60% Naidhana Mitra Ve Sa Su Rh Saturn ® 4 Cp 30 U.Shaa. 3 PK 38% Kshema Mitra Sa Sa Su Sa Rahu 6 Le 24 Makha 2 AK 25% Sampat Sadhana Su Ve Ke Rh Ketu 6 Aq 24 Dhanishtha 4 - 25% Sadhana Janma Sa Ma Ma Mo +----------------------+ | | | | | | | | | MerR Glk | | | | Ven | | | | | | Sun Mnd | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | Moo | | | | | | | | BL | | | | | | | | Ket | | | |-------------| R A S I |-------------| | | | Rah | | SatR | | | | | | GL | | JupR | | | | | | Mar | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | | | | | Asc | | HL | | | | | | | | | | | +----------------------+ +----------------------+ | | | | | | | | | Mnd GL | | | JupR | Rah | | | | | | Mar HL | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | Glk Sun | | | | | | | | Asc SatR | | | | | | | |-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------| | | | | | | | | | Ven | | | | | | | | | | | |-------------|---------------------------|-------------| | | | | | | | | Moo | | | MerR | Ket | | | | | | BL | | | | | | | +----------------------+ Vimsottari Dasa: Mars 1961-07-01 Ketu 1961-08-09 Venu 1962-01-05 Sun 1963-03-07 Moon 1963-07-13 Rahu 1964-02-11 Jupi 1966-10-24 Satu 1969-03-19 Merc 1972-01-24 Ketu 1974-08-12 Venu 1975-08-31 Sun 1978-08-30 Moon 1979-07-25 Mars 1981-01-23 Jupi 1982-02-11 Satu 1984-03-31 Merc 1986-10-12 Ketu 1989-01-17 Venu 1989-12-24 Sun 1992-08-24 Moon 1993-06-12 Mars 1994-10-12 Rahu 1995-09-18 Satu 1998-02-10 Merc 2001-02-13 Ketu 2003-10-24 Venu 2004-12-02 Sun 2008-02-02 Moon 2009-01-14 Mars 2010-08-15 Rahu 2011-09-24 Jupi 2014-07-31 Merc 2017-02-10 Ketu 2019-07-10 Venu 2020-07-06 Sun 2023-05-07 Moon 2024-03-12 Mars 2025-08-12 Rahu 2026-08-09 Jupi 2029-02-25 Satu 2031-06-03 Ketu 2034-02-10 Venu 2034-07-09 Sun 2035-09-08 Moon 2036-01-14 Mars 2036-08-14 Rahu 2037-01-10 Jupi 2038-01-29 Satu 2039-01-05 Merc 2040-02-14 Venu 2041-02-10 Sun 2044-06-11 Moon 2045-06-12 Mars 2047-02-10 Rahu 2048-04-11 Jupi 2051-04-12 Satu 2053-12-11 Merc 2057-02-10 Ketu 2059-12-12 Sun 2061-02-10 Moon 2061-05-30 Mars 2061-11-29 Rahu 2062-04-06 Jupi 2063-02-28 Satu 2063-12-18 Merc 2064-11-29 Ketu 2065-10-05 Venu 2066-02-10 Moon 2067-02-10 Mars 2067-12-12 Rahu 2068-07-12 Jupi 2070-01-10 Satu 2071-05-12 Merc 2072-12-11 Ketu 2074-05-12 Venu 2074-12-11 Sun 2076-08-11 gjlist, "Wendy Vasicek" <wenvas@o...> wrote: > Robert wrote: > ============= > First of all, you cannot confuse what is generically meant by physical > beauty, and spiritual beauty. There is just no comparison between the > two. Obviously the principle of beauty is going to manifest differently in > Amachi, as opposed to Marilyn Monroe. The former does not flaunt her > feminine features in order to attract, whereas the latter does. So you > will see strong, yogakaraka connections between both Saturn and Venus in > both persons. I have had the opportunity to look straight into Amachi's > eyes, and I can tell you, that I haven't seen too many worldly women with > that kind of beauty. > ============================ > > This is true Robert, > > But we were discussing physical beauty particularly as seen from Lagna > (physical body). Of course 1st also shows one's "innate nature" and > therefore one can deduce spiritual qualities that are strongly expressed in > one's nature. > > We know that both Saturn, the planet of renunciation, and divine planet > Jupiter, have a big say in our spiritual nature, right?...scripture states > that "Saturn (or lagnesh) aspecting Sun, indicator of Soul (Atma) gives > strong spiritual tendencies", and of course it goes without saying that the > same aspect from Jupiter enhances one's spirituality...so not difficult then > to deduce the spiritual beauty of Ammachi with Jupiter aspecting Saturn in > Lagna (from 9th). > > But this (as you said) cannot be compared with physical beauty, which is > what we were discussing. If you take a look at Princess Diana's chart (using > Scorpio Lagna), you'll see that she has SA/JU conjunct in Capricorn...it's > widely accepted that she had a strong spiritual/compassionate > personality...Capricorn owns 3rd house of desires, motivation, etc. > > We also know that (with strong Venus aspecting Lagna) she was the epitome of > all that Venus represents. The genuine love and affection she so freely gave > to all she met, along with her natural charm, beauty, style and grace, are a > clear indication of the strong Venus influence on her Ascendant. > > I think we need to not lose sight of the natural significations of the > planets when we're judging the effects of Lagna (or any house): > > Sun: Self, Soul > Moon: Mind, Emotions > Mars: Energy, Ambition > Mercury:Intellect > Jupiter:Religion, Compassion > Venus: Beauty > Saturn: Renunciation, Penance > etc...... > > It's all too easy to lose sight of the basics and "not see the woods for the > trees" when we start focusing on all the different rules laid out by the > different sages...as I pointed out in a previous post; often there is some > factor that will nullify these rules in certain charts...the rule (related > to progeny) for instance in "Doctrines of Suka Nadi" > > However, the significations of the planets, along with their nature (due to > lordship), is always the strongest foundation for judging the outcome of the > houses concerned. > > Regards > Wendy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2001 Report Share Posted April 25, 2001 Hi Alex, I agree that Diana's chart makes a fascinating study. It is excellent in it's clarity. I agree with most of your comments, but (as is often the case with astrologers) I see things in a slightly different way...BTW I use 19.45...I see you've rectified it to 19.45.15? ALEX: Interesting that you mentioned Diana's chart. It makes a fascinating study, as it clearly illustrates how things can be seen from the Arudha Lagna versus the Rasi ascendant. >snip< The bad rap that her husband gets, and the marital fiasco that she is also known for is denoted by Mars and Rahu in the 7th from Arudha Lagna. WENDY: The (deserved in my opinion) bad rap that her husband got is clearly seen from the Rasi with significator of spouse (Venus) owning 12th house...12th lord Venus aspecting Asc brought her a great deal of misery and yes! ill-repute via the men in her life. Venus's star (Sun) in 8th further damages her reputation through her liaisons with various lovers. However her actual ascendant reveals a different story as it shows the true character that is not necessarily the same as the public image. ALEX: The conjunction of the malefics in the 10th, involved in a terrible bandhana yoga, and the 10th lord going into the 8th house in enemy's sign with the strong 8th lord show that her actions denoted by the karma bhava were not good in reality. WENDY: Tenth house shows (particularly) status, career, publicity, fame, etc...Asc lord Mars conjunct Rahu here clearly shows the compulsive fervour of the paparazzi who pursued her relentlessly...no one before (or ever again, I suspect) was subjected to such compulsive publicity...10th lord conjunct Sun in 8th shows scandal, disrepute, etc. As you say the affliction (from the nodes) of Mars in 10th and Moon in 4th is testament to her broken home (divorce of Mother and Father) as well, of course, to the lack of happiness and contentment that plagued her in spite of her privileged life. ALEX: Jupiter the most auspicious and good planet in the chart suffers the worst affliction. He is placed in the 3rd house, which is the worst position for him being his death place or marana karaka sthana. Combined with debilitation and affliction from a Strong Saturn, being one of the worst planets for Scorpio, he is completely destroyed. That is why death occured in the Jupiter cycle, despite his yogakarak status. WENDY: I certainly agree...interesting to note that she was in a Rahu mahadasa, Mars bhukti, when she married into the royal family (she also was of royal blood, perhaps even more so than Charles), but that's beside the point. The point is that Rahu heralds major life change during his dasa when placed in a kendra...the 10th showing status, position in life, etc... The following Jupiter Dasa (afflicted by Saturn) could not have been helped by that huge sapphire engagement ring she wore...I would wince every time I saw it, wishing someone would tell her to take it off. But enough!! all-in-all a fascinating chart. Regards Wendy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2001 Report Share Posted April 25, 2001 Dear Wendy, dear list. Following the discussion for a while, I would agree with you Wendy, that before we are reciting endless rules, having their worth of course, we should look first what is clearly given to us without many ways from the back. (I must confess, I also am not free of it.) Let me give you an example about homeopathy, being more familar to this topic: Nearly every hom. workshop ends in reciting all the special rules and paragraphs of Hahnemann`s Organon. Everybody finds the right phrase as evidence for his opinion. Women becoming quiter and quiter, men becoming more agitated. Nobody mentions that our remedies are in danger as fabrication mostly is faulty and against the simplest rules. Nobody will hear about this. We have to cure our patients: quickly, gently and long-lasting. This was Hahnemann`s claim. Translating it into astrology: We have to solve the charts quickly, humbly and understandable. Wendy,hoping to understand it right, this might be your thoughts. Regards, Ilona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2001 Report Share Posted April 25, 2001 Namste Wendy, Wendy: interesting to note that she was in a Rahu mahadasa, Mars bhukti, when she married into the royal family (she also was of royal blood, perhaps even more so than Charles), but that's beside the point. The point is that Rahu heralds major life change during his dasa when placed in a kendra...the 10th showing status, position in life, etc... Navamsa dispositor of Rahu is Venus 7th lord in the 7th giving marriage. Mars is also considered as significator for husband and marriage according to the Nadis. Marriage to a king is of course denoted by the placement of kshatriya Mars in Leo in the 10th forming a yoga with the regal 9th lord Moon. Rahu in Leo is also considered rajayoga forming by some. > The following Jupiter Dasa (afflicted by Saturn) could not have been helped > by that huge sapphire engagement ring she wore...I would wince every time I > saw it, wishing someone would tell her to take it off. Poor girl... I wish her better luck next life ;-) What is the point of all of those rajayoga planets giving great wealth, if she has to suffer from all of those bondage yogas and can never enjoy happiness and freedom? Warm regards, Alex J > > But enough!! all-in-all a fascinating chart. > > Regards > Wendy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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