Childbirth Indications

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Dear List,

I am forwarding two posts from Visti, who responded to a question regarding

childbirth in my own chart, as further education to others. They are very

informative.

Thank you Visti !!

(DOB info for those who would like to follow along is

 

12/18/62

7.42 am EST

Detroit Mi. USA

 

 

>Dear Marcia, Namaste.

>I'm going to send you two emails about this, as there are some extra

>things to consider.

>You may post these emails to the list if you wish.

>

>- Deha -

>When judging such things, we must first determine the progeny of the person.

>The Progeny of a person is seen from the house of Copulation(3rd), as the

>person one has sex with is seen in the 7th house. So the ability to

>procreate is seen in the 3rd house.

>

>Jaimini states that after determining the stronger of 1st/7th from Lagna

>and Sun, find the Arudha Padas of the 3rd(9th if 7th is stronger), of the

>Sun and Lagna. If Sun is placed in 2nd, 6th, 8th or 12th from these then

>theres a chance of infertility. If Mercury and Venus conjoin in the 8th

>from these, then infertility can also occur.

>

>In your case Lagna is stronger, and so is Sun. Sun is in 3rd from A3, so

>no problems. Sun is conjoined with AS3, hence problems may occur, but can

>be helped through remedial messures.

>

>So fertility isn't a problem.

>

>- Rasi -

>Its said that when a natural significator(karaka) lords the house it

>signifies, it damages the house.. this is true for Chara Karakas, not the

>Naisargika or Sthira Karakas.

>

>Jupiter is Chara Putra Karaka, and lords 5th house. This indicates that

>childbirth, i a learning experience, and you may chose not to have

>children at all. Jupiter in 12th from 5th and Arudha Lagna confirms this.

>

>When the Chara Karaka lords its own house, it produces very strong

>spiritual influences, Ramakrishna Paramatmamsa never had sex with his

>wife, who he worshipped as the incarnation of Shakti herself. His 7th

>house was lorded by Darakaraka.. same for his wife.

>(both charts are attached)

>

>The manifestation of children is seen from the Putra Pada(5th arudha

>pada), and here Saturn and Ketu are conjoined it, showing a natural desire

>to renounce childbirth, hence from the Rasi chart its clear that you will

>chose not to have children.

>

>- Saptamsa -

>Here its important to keep in mind the sex of the person.

>You are female, hence 9th house is to be seen for all children, and 10th

>house/lord is a maraka for all children.

>

>Both Lagna lords are in 10th house, and are aspected by Saturn. Hence your

>own disposition won't be good for the activities in childbirth. Hence

>again you may chose not to have children.

>9th lord is conjoined Rahu, again aspected by Saturn.

>

>For learning purposes, lets look at the various childbirths.

>As lagna in Saptamsa is Even 9th house shows first child.

>

>1. The 9th lord is Moon and is conjoined Rahu(male), indicating male child.

>2. A frog leap to 7th house shows next child, lorded by Venus conjoined

>deb-Mercury, giving female child, but Venus and Jupiter are in exchange,

>hence lord of child is seen from Jupiter still in a female sign indicating

>female child still.

>3. A frog leap to 5th house is lorded by Jupiter, but its exchange makes

>Venus the lord. Venus is conjoined deb-mercury indicating female child.

>Rahu is in next sign hence no more children after that.

>

>General indications from Rasi chart could indicate no more than 2 children.

>

>- Conclussion -

>It seems quite clear that you may decide not to give birth to children, as

>you have a higher spiritual purpose in mind. Now check my next email.

 

 

Namaste Again.

Noticing that Upapada and 7th Navamsa has Rahu, It made me consider the

fact of adopting children.

 

Posyaputra Yoga(adoption), happens when the 5th house/lord is associated

with Saturn and Mercury.

The precious analysis showed your own unwillingness not to give birth to

children.

In Rasi chart, 5th lord Jupiter is in Aqua(saturns sign), and 5th house is

aspected by Mercury. This can indicate adoption.

Rahu in Upapada can show marriage to a person who has married once before.

7th lord in 12th indicates a foreigner. 7th lord from Venus is Mars. Mars

is in a fixed sign, in Rasi and Movable in Navamsa. So he may live close

but comes from a very distant country.

Rahu in the 7th house in Navamsa confirms the indications of Rasi, hence

you may marry someone, from which you will adopt the children.

In Satamsa;

1st child lorded by Moon is aspected by Saturn, and Mars gives graha dristi.

2nd child is lorded by Venus, but the exchange makes Jupiter the lord.

Jupiter is aspected by Saturn.

When Mars and Saturn aspect, it indicates an adopted child.

In the first case Mars giving Graha Dristi as Saturn gives Rasi Dristi,

indicates an incomplete adoption process as the desire of mars isn't

fulfilled. Hence the husbands children maybe considered ones live-in

children rather than own child.

 

- Conclussion -

You may marry someone who allready has children, and hence will have

adopted children.

I believe you'll meet and marry this special person in Rahu-Mars Dasa.

Best wishes, Visti.