Complexion & colour/Patrice

[Guest guest]

Patrice:

 

Thanks for sharing your info. How close is Venus to Neptune? As it stands

now, I don't know if the 2nd house plays a definite role. It may be

Venus-Neptune conjunction anywhere in the chart. However, here's one to

confound us: Prince Charles has a 2* Venus-Neptune conj in Virgo in his

3rd. He doesn't strike me as particularly good looking but perhaps because

of his position, he projects an image of beauty, or at least, people do

look at him a lot -- they have no choice! In fact, the Venus-Neptune

connection may have more to do with public projections of beauty (film

industry, royalty, and in your case modelling) than simple beauty per se.

A friend of mine is truly beautiful (stares from men on the street type of

beauty) and did model as well in her twenties. She has a 2* conj of Venus

and Neptune in Libra. She has Mercury in a 1* conjunction with her asc

with the Moon in the 10th in Mercury's sign Virgo. Could go either way

there. Who knows?

 

Chris

 

 

At 09:23 PM 4/19/01 -0400, you wrote:

>Dear Chris,

>

>As more input for your thoughts on Neptune. It's interesting with respect to

>my chart. I too have Venus in Virgo along with Saturn and Mars in my second

>house. Also Moon in Scorpio, along with my Sun, and Lagna is Leo. After

>beginning with Jyotish, I wondered about this for obvious reasons. I had

>thought it was Jupiter's blessings from the 8th house in his own sign Pisces

>that must have improved things and blessed me.

>

>Neptune is in a close conjunction with Venus in the second house. I am

>DEFINITELY not anything like the great Sofia (and blonde to boot), but I did

>model quite a lot in my teens and twenties and a bit in my thirties. And I

>don't suffer any of what I might have thought possible with these placements

>of Venus and Moon. I did have braces not too long ago for a short while,

>which were applied right on with Dashas Venus/Sun/Saturn/Mars. With this

>second house placement, from what you've said, perhaps this too improved my

>situation. Also, in the second house, perhaps this shows the income related

>to this.

>

>Best regards,

>Patrice

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[Guest guest]

Hi Chris,

 

Thanks for your response. It's interesting... I'm wondering too if it

doesn't have more to do with people staring at you kind of thing. Most of my

life I have had people stare to the point that family members, and my

children and friends always talk with me about it, and wonder what it comes

from. Since exposure to Jyotish, again I thought it may have to do with

Jupiter in Pisces in the eight, some kind of mystical thing maybe. I mean

you know, it's always speculation as to why and I usually read it as some

spiritual attribute, if that's the right word, or maybe something like that,

otherworldly. I also have Ketu in my Lagna, which made me think along those

lines too.

 

I don't think the starring is because of exceptional beauty in my case. I'm

not drop-dead gorgeous or anything, but I have always been aware of the

reality of being stared at. And again the modeling does tie into that. As

you said, it could just be tied into projection.

 

My Venus is 26* 5', and Neptune is 27* 39'.

 

I just checked out my Dashamsha, and I have Mercury and Venus in Leo in the

10th house, aspected by Moon in Cancer in the 4th house. I am a real

beginner here with Jyotish, but this now makes sense about my modeling,

which I usually don't even give thought to, and I did have a Jyotishi tell

me once this Dashamsha looks like some kind of performing arts to him. (I

have been hoping it was some great talent once further developed like the

music I'm learning!:-) The modeling I did mostly was show modeling. Also,

photography, but mostly shows. Makes sense as 'performance'. (I dislike my

photo being taken for some weird reason, perhaps the debilitation of Venus?

or maybe of Moon in Lagna?)

 

In both Lagna and Dashamsha, Ketu is in 12th house from Venus, which Venus

is my Atmakaraka. Perhaps this is why I often purposefully 'stepped back'

from modeling full force, and opportunities related to it such as major

photography.

 

All best,

Patrice

[Guest guest]

Namaste Patrice,

 

What is your Arudha lagna? This has to do with how people perceive

you, not with what may be the true beauty. So in the case of people

staring at someone who is not really gorgeous this ascendant is

important.

 

What is your ascendant and where is the ascendant lord placed?

 

regards,

 

Alex J

 

gjlist, "Patrice Curry" <patrice.curry@h...> wrote:

> Hi Chris,

>

> Thanks for your response. It's interesting... I'm wondering too if

it

> doesn't have more to do with people staring at you kind of thing.

Most of my

> life I have had people stare to the point that family members, and

my

> children and friends always talk with me about it, and wonder what

it comes

> from. Since exposure to Jyotish, again I thought it may have to do

with

> Jupiter in Pisces in the eight, some kind of mystical thing maybe.

I mean

> you know, it's always speculation as to why and I usually read it

as some

> spiritual attribute, if that's the right word, or maybe something

like that,

> otherworldly. I also have Ketu in my Lagna, which made me think

along those

> lines too.

>

> I don't think the starring is because of exceptional beauty in my

case. I'm

> not drop-dead gorgeous or anything, but I have always been aware of

the

> reality of being stared at. And again the modeling does tie into

that. As

> you said, it could just be tied into projection.

>

> My Venus is 26* 5', and Neptune is 27* 39'.

>

> I just checked out my Dashamsha, and I have Mercury and Venus in

Leo in the

> 10th house, aspected by Moon in Cancer in the 4th house. I am a real

> beginner here with Jyotish, but this now makes sense about my

modeling,

> which I usually don't even give thought to, and I did have a

Jyotishi tell

> me once this Dashamsha looks like some kind of performing arts to

him. (I

> have been hoping it was some great talent once further developed

like the

> music I'm learning!:-) The modeling I did mostly was show modeling.

Also,

> photography, but mostly shows. Makes sense as 'performance'. (I

dislike my

> photo being taken for some weird reason, perhaps the debilitation

of Venus?

> or maybe of Moon in Lagna?)

>

> In both Lagna and Dashamsha, Ketu is in 12th house from Venus,

which Venus

> is my Atmakaraka. Perhaps this is why I often purposefully 'stepped

back'

> from modeling full force, and opportunities related to it such as

major

> photography.

>

> All best,

> Patrice

[Guest guest]

Hello Alex,

 

Namaste.

 

I am Leo rising (with Ketu) with Sun in the 4th along with my Moon, in

Scorpio. So following the rules, and since Arudha cannot be in the house

itself, or the 7th from it, I believe this puts it back in the 4th, Scorpio,

correct?

 

In Navamsa, Scorpio Lagna, Mars in the 5th, puts Arudha of Navamsa (I'm not

sure of the term for this), in the 9th house in Cancer with the Moon and

Ketu.

 

Please correct me if I'm wrong on this. It's a bit confusing in the Rasi

chart, to go back to the 4th house with the Sun again, but I think this is

correct.

 

With so much Scorpio and Ketu centered around my Rasi and Navamsa Lagnas or

Arudhas, I would think this would give me a Mars appearance, correct? I am

very golden blonde, with golden colored skin and freckles. Having grown up

bodysurfing and on the beaches in California and Hawaii this also

contributed to the blondeness of my hair. I wonder about that influence as

Saturn being in my 2nd house, again with Mars, but also Venus, I think my

hair would have been darker. (Or does the Moon in these two places in my

charts, lighten my hair, or just my skin?)

 

There are many questions here for me. I know to see my mother's father we

look nine houses from my 4th house, correct? My Moon being debilitated here

however, in my 4th house with the Sun, I wonder if this could indicate the

tragedy of my mother's father committing suicide also, and by violent means,

in Mars, secrecy, etc. of Scorpio. (My grandfather was born and raised in

Denmark, Danish citizen, died here in US, also then a dual citizen.) I know

fourth house is also Karaka for mother. Just so incredible how all is so

intricately tied in, in all these different areas...

 

Thanks for your question and thoughts on this.

With best regards,

Patrice

[Guest guest]

Namaste Patrice,

 

As regards Arudha lagna in the Rasi, you are correct. It is in

Scorpio with Sun and Moon. This would give a regal aura to you as

perceieved by others. Moon is also a planet that rules beauty. So it

is indicated here.

 

For your Navamsa, The Arudha Lagna is possibly Pisces, as Ketu

appears to be the ruler of your Navamsa ascendant. Ketu as the first

lord in the 9th with the 9th lord in Navamsa gives your leaning

towards the spiritual and occult.

 

What are the other planetary placements in the Navamsa? If Mars is

alone, then the ascendant lord is Ketu. The conjunction with Moon in

own house again gives beauty of the Moon's kind.

 

Venus in Virgo still gives beauty. Venus is conjunct Saturn his best

friend. The aspect of Jupiter over these, and Mercury's rasi dristi

gives the beautiful face. Venus with Mars and Saturn in Virgo makes

the person very sexy as well.

 

regards,

 

Alex J

 

 

gjlist, "Patrice Curry" <patrice.curry@h...> wrote:

> Hello Alex,

>

> Namaste.

>

> I am Leo rising (with Ketu) with Sun in the 4th along with my Moon,

in

> Scorpio. So following the rules, and since Arudha cannot be in the

house

> itself, or the 7th from it, I believe this puts it back in the 4th,

Scorpio,

> correct?

>

> In Navamsa, Scorpio Lagna, Mars in the 5th, puts Arudha of Navamsa

(I'm not

> sure of the term for this), in the 9th house in Cancer with the

Moon and

> Ketu.

>

> Please correct me if I'm wrong on this. It's a bit confusing in the

Rasi

> chart, to go back to the 4th house with the Sun again, but I think

this is

> correct.

>

> With so much Scorpio and Ketu centered around my Rasi and Navamsa

Lagnas or

> Arudhas, I would think this would give me a Mars appearance,

correct? I am

> very golden blonde, with golden colored skin and freckles. Having

grown up

> bodysurfing and on the beaches in California and Hawaii this also

> contributed to the blondeness of my hair. I wonder about that

influence as

> Saturn being in my 2nd house, again with Mars, but also Venus, I

think my

> hair would have been darker. (Or does the Moon in these two places

in my

> charts, lighten my hair, or just my skin?)

>

> There are many questions here for me. I know to see my mother's

father we

> look nine houses from my 4th house, correct? My Moon being

debilitated here

> however, in my 4th house with the Sun, I wonder if this could

indicate the

> tragedy of my mother's father committing suicide also, and by

violent means,

> in Mars, secrecy, etc. of Scorpio. (My grandfather was born and

raised in

> Denmark, Danish citizen, died here in US, also then a dual

citizen.) I know

> fourth house is also Karaka for mother. Just so incredible how all

is so

> intricately tied in, in all these different areas...

>

> Thanks for your question and thoughts on this.

> With best regards,

> Patrice