Guest guest Posted April 19, 2001 Report Share Posted April 19, 2001 Hi there: Just a note on drawing up the hora chart. I know nothing of Sanjay's secrets but members unfamiliar with parivritti chart (that is the one that doesn't divide planets between sun and moon houses) shouldn't get put off by the apparently complex description of it in the forwarded email from Narasimha. To calculate this hora chart, you simply multiply all planetary positions by two! So if rashi Asc is 15 Taurus, hora Asc will be 15 Taurus converted to its total degrees, 45*, multiplied by two, to get 90*. So the hora Asc is 0* cancer. I don't use hora charts much -- perhaps because I am not one of those materialistic astrologers! -- but they appear to give some interesting results in money matters. Well worth checking out if you're interested. Chris At 10:18 AM 4/19/01 -0000, you wrote: >Namaste. >This isn't the Hora chart but its the Hora divisions, of Moon(cancer) >and Sun(leo). >In the present Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra, the sign divisions >haven't been given to draw a Hora(D-2) chart. Some people do however >know the correct Hora chart, and its kept a secret to avoid the >presence of Materialistic Astrologers, or those who use Astrology for >wealth purposes only. Understandable in this Yuga. > >Thats why the correct Hora chart is only given in a Guru-Sishya >relationship, where the trust is better. > >You'll find that in all cases the planets fall in divisions of Sun >and Moon. Those that fall in moon shows that in their Dasa's wealth >will ammased easily(blessings of Shakti), whereas those in the Hora >of Sun(Vasudevaya), come through hard work. > >So the bottom line is that we don't have a Hora chart for Wealth. But >The Parivritti Dwara Hora can be drawn to see family affairs, and >health to some extent. > >I'll forward an old email written by Narasimha in this regard. > >Best wishes, Visti. > >gjlist, mailnemo wrote: >> >> Dear list members >> My first question is >> Does Hora and D-2 are same chart.If this is so then pls refer to >the >> birth data and divisional charts which are given below.In the D-2 >> chart Asc is Cancer and Sun ,Moo, Mar, Jup ,Ven ,Sat ,Rah ,Ket, Ura >> and Nep is in leo i.e 2nd from D-2 Lagna and 11th from janma >> lagna.Does this mean that the native will amass huge wealth. >> your comments are required. >> >> Time :20:12 hrs >> place :Calcutta >> Date :07 th April,1974 >> >> thanks and regards >> nemo >> >> >> Divisionals >> >> >> Divisionals Sun Moo Mar Mer Jup Ven Sat Rah Ket Ura Nep Plu Asc >> Hora (2nd) Leo Leo Leo Can Leo Leo Leo Leo Leo Leo Leo Can Can >> Drekkna (3rd) Sco Lib Cap Pis Gem Aqu Gem Can Cap Lib Pis Cap Gem >> Chaturtha (4th) Sag Lib Aqu Pis Tau Tau Gem Leo Aqu Lib Tau Sag Can >> Trishamsa (5th) Cap Ari Sco Tau Sag Aqu Aqu Sco Sco Ari Pis Vir Lib >> Sasthama (6th) Aqu Ari Pis Lib Gem Tau Tau Pis Pis Ari Cap Sag Vir >> Saptama (7th) Aqu Lib Tau Vir Tau Pis Can Sco Tau Lib Leo Tau Ari >> Astham (8th) Aqu Ari Can Leo Pis Aqu Vir Can Can Ari Ari Sco Lib >> Navmasa (9th) Aqu Lib Vir Can Cap Sag Sco Pis Vir Lib Sco Ari Tau >> Dasham (10th) Gem Sco Lib Sco Gem Ari Can Ari Lib Lib Sag Leo Gem >> Labhamsha (11th)Leo Pis Gem Ari Sag Aqu Aqu Gem Gem Ari Sco Sag Can >> Dwadasham(12th) Sag Sco Ari Pis Can Tau Leo Lib Ari Sco Tau Cap Leo >> Shodsham (16th) Sag Tau Sco Sag Pis Sag Pis Sco Sco Tau Ari Gem Tau >> Vimshamsa (20th)Sco Gem Can Leo Leo Tau Sco Can Can Tau Lib Pis Vir >> Siddhamsa (24th)Sco Gem Pis Ari Aqu Lib Leo Pis Pis Gem Ari Cap Sag >> Bhamsha (27th) Sag Sag Can Pis Cap Leo Sco Cap Can Sag Cap Can Vir >> Khavedam (40th) Ari Aqu Cap Vir Can Sag Cap Leo Aqu Cap Aqu Gem Leo >> Akshvedam (45th)Sco Pis Can Sco Can Can Sco Can Can Pis Can Sco Pis >> Shasstyam (60th)Aqu Ari Aqu Pis Ari Tau Tau Vir Pis Pis Gem Can Cap >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> gjlist, lovelymanoj@1... wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >> > In hora chart, Rahu and Ketu will always be in the same sign. >> > >> > Lovely >> > >> > >> > ____ >> > 123India.com - India's Premier Portal >> > Get your Free Email Account at http://www.123india.com > > > >gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2001 Report Share Posted April 19, 2001 I agree there with you Christopher. As Visti says, Maharashi Parashar and his followers may have left it out for obvious reasons, astounds me, as predicting about wealth of a person was never a bad thing, never considered bad, so there cannot be a secret here. And there is no secret because if you know people in India, they will tell you that this kind of Hora chart has been in existence for a much longer time, than ever our ages, but for obvious reasons astrologers in India did not use it. Manoj >Christopher Kevill <ckevill >gjlist >gjlist >Re: [gjlist] Re: D-2 Hora Chart -suggestion >Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:41:24 -0400 > >Hi there: > >Just a note on drawing up the hora chart. I know nothing of Sanjay's >secrets but members unfamiliar with parivritti chart (that is the one that >doesn't divide planets between sun and moon houses) shouldn't get put off >by the apparently complex description of it in the forwarded email from >Narasimha. To calculate this hora chart, you simply multiply all planetary >positions by two! So if rashi Asc is 15 Taurus, hora Asc will be 15 Taurus >converted to its total degrees, 45*, multiplied by two, to get 90*. So the >hora Asc is 0* cancer. I don't use hora charts much -- perhaps because I am >not one of those materialistic astrologers! -- but they appear to give some >interesting results in money matters. Well worth checking out if you're >interested. > >Chris > >At 10:18 AM 4/19/01 -0000, you wrote: > >Namaste. > >This isn't the Hora chart but its the Hora divisions, of Moon(cancer) > >and Sun(leo). > >In the present Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra, the sign divisions > >haven't been given to draw a Hora(D-2) chart. Some people do however > >know the correct Hora chart, and its kept a secret to avoid the > >presence of Materialistic Astrologers, or those who use Astrology for > >wealth purposes only. Understandable in this Yuga. > > > >Thats why the correct Hora chart is only given in a Guru-Sishya > >relationship, where the trust is better. > > > >You'll find that in all cases the planets fall in divisions of Sun > >and Moon. Those that fall in moon shows that in their Dasa's wealth > >will ammased easily(blessings of Shakti), whereas those in the Hora > >of Sun(Vasudevaya), come through hard work. > > > >So the bottom line is that we don't have a Hora chart for Wealth. But > >The Parivritti Dwara Hora can be drawn to see family affairs, and > >health to some extent. > > > >I'll forward an old email written by Narasimha in this regard. > > > >Best wishes, Visti. > > > >gjlist, mailnemo wrote: > >> > >> Dear list members > >> My first question is > >> Does Hora and D-2 are same chart.If this is so then pls refer to > >the > >> birth data and divisional charts which are given below.In the D-2 > >> chart Asc is Cancer and Sun ,Moo, Mar, Jup ,Ven ,Sat ,Rah ,Ket, Ura > >> and Nep is in leo i.e 2nd from D-2 Lagna and 11th from janma > >> lagna.Does this mean that the native will amass huge wealth. > >> your comments are required. > >> > >> Time :20:12 hrs > >> place :Calcutta > >> Date :07 th April,1974 > >> > >> thanks and regards > >> nemo > >> > >> > >> Divisionals > >> > >> > >> Divisionals Sun Moo Mar Mer Jup Ven Sat Rah Ket Ura Nep Plu Asc > >> Hora (2nd) Leo Leo Leo Can Leo Leo Leo Leo Leo Leo Leo Can Can > >> Drekkna (3rd) Sco Lib Cap Pis Gem Aqu Gem Can Cap Lib Pis Cap Gem > >> Chaturtha (4th) Sag Lib Aqu Pis Tau Tau Gem Leo Aqu Lib Tau Sag Can > >> Trishamsa (5th) Cap Ari Sco Tau Sag Aqu Aqu Sco Sco Ari Pis Vir Lib > >> Sasthama (6th) Aqu Ari Pis Lib Gem Tau Tau Pis Pis Ari Cap Sag Vir > >> Saptama (7th) Aqu Lib Tau Vir Tau Pis Can Sco Tau Lib Leo Tau Ari > >> Astham (8th) Aqu Ari Can Leo Pis Aqu Vir Can Can Ari Ari Sco Lib > >> Navmasa (9th) Aqu Lib Vir Can Cap Sag Sco Pis Vir Lib Sco Ari Tau > >> Dasham (10th) Gem Sco Lib Sco Gem Ari Can Ari Lib Lib Sag Leo Gem > >> Labhamsha (11th)Leo Pis Gem Ari Sag Aqu Aqu Gem Gem Ari Sco Sag Can > >> Dwadasham(12th) Sag Sco Ari Pis Can Tau Leo Lib Ari Sco Tau Cap Leo > >> Shodsham (16th) Sag Tau Sco Sag Pis Sag Pis Sco Sco Tau Ari Gem Tau > >> Vimshamsa (20th)Sco Gem Can Leo Leo Tau Sco Can Can Tau Lib Pis Vir > >> Siddhamsa (24th)Sco Gem Pis Ari Aqu Lib Leo Pis Pis Gem Ari Cap Sag > >> Bhamsha (27th) Sag Sag Can Pis Cap Leo Sco Cap Can Sag Cap Can Vir > >> Khavedam (40th) Ari Aqu Cap Vir Can Sag Cap Leo Aqu Cap Aqu Gem Leo > >> Akshvedam (45th)Sco Pis Can Sco Can Can Sco Can Can Pis Can Sco Pis > >> Shasstyam (60th)Aqu Ari Aqu Pis Ari Tau Tau Vir Pis Pis Gem Can Cap > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> gjlist, lovelymanoj@1... wrote: > >> > Hello, > >> > > >> > In hora chart, Rahu and Ketu will always be in the same sign. > >> > > >> > Lovely > >> > > >> > > >> > ____ > >> > 123India.com - India's Premier Portal > >> > Get your Free Email Account at http://www.123india.com > > > > > > > >gjlist- > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > >gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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Guest guest Posted April 20, 2001 Report Share Posted April 20, 2001 I am surprised to note that "Wealth" alone is considered "materialistic". Aren't qualities such as greed for power over others, position, sensual pleasures materialistic? If at all, the "Guardians of Astrology" , had wanted to prohibit misuse of the Science, they should have hidden all information that can possibly be used to exploit others. The practice of not sharing Knowledge handed down by Divinity, by individuals (or groups) in possession of it has been the main reason for the loss of valuable information, in India. But, then again, who knows, it may have been willed by the Lord. It is puzzling to find men and women, who themselves are still growing, taking it upon themselves to determine who should or should not be the recipient of their still imperfect knowledge. Their inability or unwillingness to share knowledge, usually takes cover behind their elitist condescension. How much a person knows does not determine his or her spiritual superiority. Ravana was a master of all the sciences. So was Hirnayakashibu. List members, should be confident that a Guru would appear when they are ready. Also, Knowledge can be derived directly form the Divine, if one were to pursue It with Devotion and Perseverance. Let us be inspired by the story of the young tribal boy Ekalavya. On being rejected by the ace trainer Dronacharya, Ekalvya raised his statue and with great dedication practiced the art of archery. He learnt much more than Arjuna, the master archer, who actually learnt the art under the living guru. Love, Arun Manoj Pathak [manojpathak] Friday, April 20, 2001 12:58 AM gjlist Re: [gjlist] Re: D-2 Hora Chart -suggestion I agree there with you Christopher. As Visti says, Maharashi Parashar and his followers may have left it out for obvious reasons, astounds me, as predicting about wealth of a person was never a bad thing, never considered bad, so there cannot be a secret here. And there is no secret because if you know people in India, they will tell you that this kind of Hora chart has been in existence for a much longer time, than ever our ages, but for obvious reasons astrologers in India did not use it. Manoj >Christopher Kevill <ckevill >gjlist >gjlist >Re: [gjlist] Re: D-2 Hora Chart -suggestion >Thu, 19 Apr 2001 09:41:24 -0400 > >Hi there: > >Just a note on drawing up the hora chart. I know nothing of Sanjay's >secrets but members unfamiliar with parivritti chart (that is the one that >doesn't divide planets between sun and moon houses) shouldn't get put off >by the apparently complex description of it in the forwarded email from >Narasimha. To calculate this hora chart, you simply multiply all planetary >positions by two! So if rashi Asc is 15 Taurus, hora Asc will be 15 Taurus >converted to its total degrees, 45*, multiplied by two, to get 90*. So the >hora Asc is 0* cancer. I don't use hora charts much -- perhaps because I am >not one of those materialistic astrologers! -- but they appear to give some >interesting results in money matters. Well worth checking out if you're >interested. > >Chris > >At 10:18 AM 4/19/01 -0000, you wrote: > >Namaste. > >This isn't the Hora chart but its the Hora divisions, of Moon(cancer) > >and Sun(leo). > >In the present Brihat Parasara Hora Shastra, the sign divisions > >haven't been given to draw a Hora(D-2) chart. Some people do however > >know the correct Hora chart, and its kept a secret to avoid the > >presence of Materialistic Astrologers, or those who use Astrology for > >wealth purposes only. Understandable in this Yuga. > > > >Thats why the correct Hora chart is only given in a Guru-Sishya > >relationship, where the trust is better. > > > >You'll find that in all cases the planets fall in divisions of Sun > >and Moon. Those that fall in moon shows that in their Dasa's wealth > >will ammased easily(blessings of Shakti), whereas those in the Hora > >of Sun(Vasudevaya), come through hard work. > > > >So the bottom line is that we don't have a Hora chart for Wealth. But > >The Parivritti Dwara Hora can be drawn to see family affairs, and > >health to some extent. > > > >I'll forward an old email written by Narasimha in this regard. > > > >Best wishes, Visti. > > > >gjlist, mailnemo wrote: > >> > >> Dear list members > >> My first question is > >> Does Hora and D-2 are same chart.If this is so then pls refer to > >the > >> birth data and divisional charts which are given below.In the D-2 > >> chart Asc is Cancer and Sun ,Moo, Mar, Jup ,Ven ,Sat ,Rah ,Ket, Ura > >> and Nep is in leo i.e 2nd from D-2 Lagna and 11th from janma > >> lagna.Does this mean that the native will amass huge wealth. > >> your comments are required. > >> > >> Time :20:12 hrs > >> place :Calcutta > >> Date :07 th April,1974 > >> > >> thanks and regards > >> nemo > >> > >> > >> Divisionals > >> > >> > >> Divisionals Sun Moo Mar Mer Jup Ven Sat Rah Ket Ura Nep Plu Asc > >> Hora (2nd) Leo Leo Leo Can Leo Leo Leo Leo Leo Leo Leo Can Can > >> Drekkna (3rd) Sco Lib Cap Pis Gem Aqu Gem Can Cap Lib Pis Cap Gem > >> Chaturtha (4th) Sag Lib Aqu Pis Tau Tau Gem Leo Aqu Lib Tau Sag Can > >> Trishamsa (5th) Cap Ari Sco Tau Sag Aqu Aqu Sco Sco Ari Pis Vir Lib > >> Sasthama (6th) Aqu Ari Pis Lib Gem Tau Tau Pis Pis Ari Cap Sag Vir > >> Saptama (7th) Aqu Lib Tau Vir Tau Pis Can Sco Tau Lib Leo Tau Ari > >> Astham (8th) Aqu Ari Can Leo Pis Aqu Vir Can Can Ari Ari Sco Lib > >> Navmasa (9th) Aqu Lib Vir Can Cap Sag Sco Pis Vir Lib Sco Ari Tau > >> Dasham (10th) Gem Sco Lib Sco Gem Ari Can Ari Lib Lib Sag Leo Gem > >> Labhamsha (11th)Leo Pis Gem Ari Sag Aqu Aqu Gem Gem Ari Sco Sag Can > >> Dwadasham(12th) Sag Sco Ari Pis Can Tau Leo Lib Ari Sco Tau Cap Leo > >> Shodsham (16th) Sag Tau Sco Sag Pis Sag Pis Sco Sco Tau Ari Gem Tau > >> Vimshamsa (20th)Sco Gem Can Leo Leo Tau Sco Can Can Tau Lib Pis Vir > >> Siddhamsa (24th)Sco Gem Pis Ari Aqu Lib Leo Pis Pis Gem Ari Cap Sag > >> Bhamsha (27th) Sag Sag Can Pis Cap Leo Sco Cap Can Sag Cap Can Vir > >> Khavedam (40th) Ari Aqu Cap Vir Can Sag Cap Leo Aqu Cap Aqu Gem Leo > >> Akshvedam (45th)Sco Pis Can Sco Can Can Sco Can Can Pis Can Sco Pis > >> Shasstyam (60th)Aqu Ari Aqu Pis Ari Tau Tau Vir Pis Pis Gem Can Cap > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> gjlist, lovelymanoj@1... wrote: > >> > Hello, > >> > > >> > In hora chart, Rahu and Ketu will always be in the same sign. > >> > > >> > Lovely > >> > > >> > > >> > ____ > >> > 123India.com - India's Premier Portal > >> > Get your Free Email Account at http://www.123india.com > > > > > > > >gjlist- > > > > > > > >Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > >gjlist- > > > >Your use of is subject to > > _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. gjlist- Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2001 Report Share Posted April 23, 2001 Well Said, >It is puzzling to find men and women, who themselves are still growing, >taking it upon themselves to determine who should or should not be the >recipient of their still imperfect knowledge. Their inability or >unwillingness to share knowledge, usually takes cover behind their elitist >condescension.> And Arun, it is these people, who are causing more damage to astrology today in India, than perhaps our predecessors, all put together could do, who did not share this knowledge for want of a "Supatra". Not even in their family, and such great were their ideals. Manoj _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2001 Report Share Posted April 23, 2001 OHM SHRI RAGAVENDRAYA NAMAH JAYA JAGANNATHA Namaste Mr.Manoj, I used to admire your interpretation and chart analysis very much. But, this mail, I have to disagree with you. Please bear with me. 1.Pt.Sanjay Rath had not mentioned that he will not teach to anyone. His point is certain knowledge has to be given to the advanced students. For example, a medical student joined in the 1st year of MBBS course asks his professor, "how to do neuro-surgery?". He will answer, "first you should qualify in your MBBS degree and you should finish MS and then only you can think about neuro-surgery. Imparting knowledge through step by step process is accepted in any field. Then, why not astrology? 2.All the Astrological sages starting from Parasara tells that this knowledge has to be given to one who is qualified. Not for all. You know very well in India, 90% of the Astrologers are using this knowledge only for money making purpose. We all know that many of the astrologers are not at all qualified to give the prediction. Their knowledge are at kinder garden level. 3.We do not have an education system for astrology. Compared to any other subject in the world, astrology is not less in value to any other subject or field. But, all other subjects and fields have exhaustive selection and qualification procedures. There are separate bodies to conduct the exam and accredit the qualification. But, no such system is prevailing in astrology. In fact if we look at what Varahamihira has mentioned as qualification of an astrologer only a few of us will qualify for studying astrologer. So, at this level, it is only the discretion of the Guru to decide on the level of teaching. 4.I also felt bad when I came to know that the spreading knowledge is restricted. How can this be done? But, later I felt it happens in all the field. My EDP man is not teaching me the basic techniques. Our IVF department chief, Egyptian does not allow any doctor inside his office or his lab. My Senior director, European keeps all his knowledge about the banking operation. So, in the open world, other than what is in texts, it is very rare that people teaches their knowledge to others. 5.But, I agree with you that many many very valuable astrological knowledge had been vanished with some astrologers and it is draining now too. But, not in the case of Pt.Sanjay Rath, he has started SJVC in Delhi, exclusively for teaching Astrology properly to the interested persons - AT FREE OF COST. He teach them step by step. He assess them and increase the level of knowledge according to their advancement. He has a lot of plans to systemise the astrological teaching and he is working hard on that part at present. Thanks Solai Kannan Mon, 23 Apr 2001 12:37:29 +0530 "Manoj Pathak" <manojpathak RE: Re: D-2 Hora Chart -suggestion Well Said, >It is puzzling to find men and women, who themselves are still growing, >taking it upon themselves to determine who should or should not be the >recipient of their still imperfect knowledge. Their inability or >unwillingness to share knowledge, usually takes cover behind their elitist >condescension.> And Arun, it is these people, who are causing more damage to astrology today in India, than perhaps our predecessors, all put together could do, who did not share this knowledge for want of a "Supatra". Not even in their family, and such great were their ideals. Manoj .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2001 Report Share Posted April 23, 2001 Namaskar Solai, I am surprised how did Sanjay figure into all this. I was not at all talking or mentioning anything about him. And for those, who do not know, me and Sanjay are good friends and I admire him for his efforts in upgrading the astrological skills of the searchers of knowledge by imparting free education in Mayur Vihar, Delhi. SK : I have to disagree with you. Please bear with me. MP : I welcome disagreements because it is disagreements which push a person to work deeper and search for real meanings. SK : 1.Pt.Sanjay Rath had not mentioned that he will not teach to anyone. His point is certain knowledge has to be given to the advanced students. MP : As I said earlier, how does Sanjay come into all this. So dont please bring him in. I never mentioned him or for that matter anyone else, living or dead, in my mail. My only point was the the earlier astrolgoers did not pass the knowledge, even to their own family men, because they waiting for a worthy person to arrive. In my view, none of us are worthy and can pass the test for an astrologer laid down in Brihat Samhita. We all have our limitations. SK : 2.All the Astrological sages starting from Parasara tells that this knowledge has to be given to one who is qualified. Not for all. You know very well in India, 90% of the Astrologers are using this knowledge only for money making purpose. We all know that many of the astrologers are not at all qualified to give the prediction. Their knowledge are at kinder garden level. MP : I agree so far as money making is concerned. But I also know that a serious team is already working and which does not charge any money. I think, I am one of them. Employed in India, earning well for myself and my family and doing astrology as a hobby, as a passion, as a service to my guru, who initiated me into this science which has totally changed my outlook towards life. SK : 3.We do not have an education system for astrology. Compared to any other subject in the world, astrology is not less in value to any other subject or field. But, all other subjects and fields have exhaustive selection and qualification procedures. There are separate bodies to conduct the exam and accredit the qualification. But, no such system is prevailing in astrology. MP : U.G.C. (University Grants Commission) is trying to introduce astrology as University level course and it shall start in right earnest from this year or next year. And for your knowledge, let me tell you that already 2 universities are offering courses in Astrology in India. SK: >In fact if we look at what Varahamihira has mentioned as qualification of an astrologer only a few of us will qualify for studying astrologer. So, at this level, it is only the discretion of the Guru to decide on the level of teaching. MP : In fact I have already answered it. Before I could reach down and read this statement of yours, I had answered it already. SK : >4.I also felt bad when I came to know that the spreading knowledge is restricted. How can this be done? But, later I felt it happens in all the field. My EDP man is not teaching me the basic techniques. Our IVF department chief, Egyptian does not allow any doctor inside his office or his lab. My Senior director, European keeps all his knowledge about the banking operation. So, in the open world, other than what is in texts, it is very rare that people teaches their knowledge to others.> MP : Friend, it so happens that in today's world every man has his ego to defend and the fear to survive. So not only in astrology but in every sphere the teacher tries to retain something with him which still makes him superior to his disciples. He does not want his disciples to supercede him, which is totally wrong and is against the ethics of teaching. This is what I detest and dont like. This works against growth of knowledge. SK : >5.But, I agree with you that many many very valuable astrological knowledge had been vanished with some astrologers and it is draining now too.> MP : Do I have to say anything here. I think nothing. But my best wishes to Sanjay for his work. Solai, my idea of writing that mail was that we have such a developed astrological system in India that to master even one would take one life, therefore, when people come up and say that this is a secret held back for obvious reasons, I feel bad because, nothing has been held back by sages, it is only we, who have not understood them. with best wishes, Manoj _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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