Guest guest Posted April 9, 2001 Report Share Posted April 9, 2001 Arun's post on how people change after birth is noteworthy to me. I think Arun that the Rasi does indeed contain the growth we will experience, so that it is OK for an astrologer to continually consult only the Rasi (along with dashas and transits) throughout the life. But your point is something astrologers really need to remember, that is: That life unfolds over time, and people do retain lessons as they grow older. So we have to remember that one dasha comes on top of the other, and the lessons of the one are carried forward into the next, and so also with transits and life in general. But I think since we see old people living out things that could be predictable given their charts, then I think we have to realize that the Rasi does hold throughout life, and is a prediction for the whole life, and it's a matter of the astrologer remembering that in proper places as they read the chart. I think the fact that catastrophic placements in charts bear their fruits later in lives, and these events require all the players to be in place at the right time and perform the right actions, so I think it is safe to say that all the players were guided properly step by step through life to perform their karmas, and their rasi charts will each show the respective lives correctly. But we're really lacking as astrologers. There is a unison to all things, never mind astrology. Just see that all humans have to obey gravity and stay on Earth, and they are all sharing a resource set, and they are forced to wander on the same continents with each other, and in order to survive they flock to rivers, then they engage in commerce, wage their politics and other battles, just like ants in an ant hill, some working over here, some working over there, the whole thing going on in harmony. The cars on freeways from airplanes look like ants travelling on their little trails... So there's an oneness of reality that binds us all and forces us to carry out interactions, and the ones with more brains are appropriately exploiting the ones with less, like the ones with less are the employees and the ones with more manipulative ego and power are on top yelling orders and live in bigger houses. In the ant hill, it's the law of the jungle. What law is that? Jyotish will fill you in on that... So if one opens their eyes, they can see that the criminal is born in a certain family, thus experiencing certain schools, certain neighborhoods, friends, experiences, and grows up and somehow it all adds up to criminal. Then the kid in the hills follows the path of being the recipient of immense inheritence, totally different schools, different friends, and ends up not surprisingly just like he's supposed to. So the influence of the rays of fortune upon us are extremely gripping. And when Kennedy was shot, everyone had to be in place, from the scapegoat setup shooter, to the real shooters, to the President, his wife, the guards, the cars, the spectators. Nobody had any choice in the matter. They think they chose to be there, but obviously, a script was in place that none of them knew exactly. The real shooters hoped to blow his head off, but they were'nt SURE it would go down nicely. The scapegoat was hoping something entirely different. The public had no idea. The guards may have had some idea...who knows...but nobody knows until the fat(e) lady sings what exactly shall be. But each life had to come to that place step by step. What is meant to be shall be, and our steps shall take us there, but all our plans will fail throughout our lives. Nobodies plans work out ever exactly as they thought. We are "lucky" if they work out fairly often, "normal" if rarely, and "unlucky" if never. So "success" seems to be more of a matter of being the one who controls the flow of what is natural, just as Bill Gates controls the flow of the MS operating system, and thus is materially "successful" but he was born to do that, if you know his life, and times, and what went down. It's karma. Again. Not choice. Our minds are going all over the place planning and speculating but very little of it ever comes true. Those who focus their minds on the attainable attain more of their dreams. But their dreams are limited to the attainable. Those who dream bigger than the attainable suffer frustration, but they think in realms larger than the present, and perhaps that is it's own reward. Raghu Goravani 2852 Willamette St # 353 Eugene OR USA 97405 or Fax: 541-343-0344 "Goravani Jyotish" Vedic/Hindu Astrology Software Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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