Mad, Bad & Sad

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Dear Natabara,

I deserve some flak concerning my comments.

I know they appear flippant and judgemental. But cursory appraisal has to

start somewhere, and I am trying to get to the core of a persons'

motivation. Actual diagnosis and treatment is largely secondary. (Consider

the observations 'groundwork in tandem')

Actually, chronic insanity is not that common.(and Mad is not necessarily

Bad!). We are told Mental Illness will affect one in Five people sometime

during their life. I would suggest the figures are much higher (and rising!).

These days, medications without the intolerable side effects, are freely

available. If sufferers maintain thier medication regime and coping

stratagies, the condition can be successfully managed, enabling a normal

life. This applies to the most serious and common disorders,ie: Bi-polar

disorder, schitzophrenia and severe depression.

Now what happens?....compliance of medication orders have to be legally

upheld in a large percentage of long term cases, for a variety of reasons,

all involving ego to some degree. Relapse is common, usually due to

deliberate or subconscious pursuit of the 'high' of mania or psychosis.

(thats where I come in!).

Unfair in the extreme, but I will throw my hat in the ring and declare

Van Gogh so sad&bad he sent himself mad, and poor old Nietzche, just plain

sad!!. Having said that, I ought to look at their charts!.

Peace,

Ann.

[Guest guest]

Dear An, Natabara,

 

"Unfair in the extreme, but I will throw my hat in the ring and declare

Van Gogh so sad&bad he sent himself mad, and poor old Nietzche, just plain

sad!!. Having said that, I ought to look at their charts!."

 

That's a good idea. Van Gogh, whom I admire, has an extremely unbalanced chart-

/Cancer, trop. rising, Moon in Sag- Natabara said he died in Moon's dasha, so I

guess Cancer is his his Lagna, too/-(I use present time, since the horoscope

"works" after physical death, as we all know).For better understanding I will

quote a piece of his letter, sent to his brother Teo, who supported him and his

passion for art, since poor genius was able

to sell his work for just $20, during his VERY PRODUCTIVE short life: "....that

yellow ...that I created this summer

is so amazing that only insane person could produce it......I think that I will

gladly accept that role...'(of being mad, for the sake of HIS ART)- sacrifice?

Seems so- I feel that he had a mission (as I guess we all do) that he had

fulfilled- he gave us so much, he couldn't have done more!

 

It's my feeling that we all have enough time to fulfill our "major mission" in

life- no matter how long life is, no matter whether we know (as Van Gogh DID)

what that mission is or not. Comforting, indeed.

 

Bad, sad, mad- we all try to make some classification (of course, most- all??-

are wrong), to help our mind

simplify the world, life, and feel as if we understand them- but Van Gaugh,

Nietzche, you, me...we are all BEYOND that, IMHO. If I have to make a choice I

would choose sad-mad, but. again he was SO HAPPY when he would produce a

master-piece that he liked (in one day, quite often).

 

Anna

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Ann Murphy wrote:

>

> Dear Natabara,

> Unfair in the extreme, but I will throw my hat in the ring and declare

> Van Gogh so sad&bad he sent himself mad, and poor old Nietzche, just plain

> sad!!. Having said that, I ought to look at their charts!.

> Peace,

> Ann.

 

 

Dear Ann,

 

these tings are not so simple as you project, but also reflect what you say.

Most mental illness is "sadness", but some owing to defective brain structure or

function. I have never treated patients, but since I was 13 years old, I have

been confronted or been in touch with various kinds of mental anomalies.

M;edication does not always help, for the problem is psychotic. To give a crude

example: a woman hates men because she was raped brutally as a child! The deed

cannot be erased, nor the disgust, fear and physical suffering she experienced.

Here only the highest philosophy can help to overcome the hate, to have a

positive relationship with a male partner. But if the mental derangement has

already taken hold, you cannot pour in the philosophy! The person is totally

rejective, totally unreceptive!.... I am not speculating but talking of past

experiences.

 

Van Gogh´s paintings reveal that he saw the world in a rather weird way. A corn

field or sunflowers are soothing to our eyes, but his representations of the

same are somehow true, but somehow demonic. It is not a question of technique,

like Renoir´s telling strokes, or the pointillistic depiction. Van Gogh´s

paintings don´t show affection for the known, but a fear of the inevitably

known, the evil that lurks behind the familiar - if one expects evil in

everything! A mind like that has taken up a permasnent position, csn hardly be

influenced! The pity is that such souls are shut off from happiness, joy, the

momentary laugh and appreciation of the humour in life!

 

regards

Mani