Dashas and Vargas

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In my last email I said something which I wish to clarify:

 

Regarding gathering information about how to use dashas and vargas:

 

Firstly, it should be known that I somehow got absorbed in PROGRAMMING

Jyotish more so than doing Jyotish, and more so than studying Jyotish,

from DAY ONE of my experience with Jyotish.

 

So I am not the fountain of knowledge regarding Jyotish.

 

Now I did make it a point to buy all the books I could, all of them, for

awhile I did that, then I stopped. In the process, which was a few years

ago ending, by that time, I had acquired perhaps 200 books say. And as I

acquired them, I was quickly or cursory reading them all. But very

speedily just going through in a rough way usually to get an idea of

what was in the book.

 

That is not full study, that's for sure, but I do have an amazing

ability to assimilate knowledge at a very high speed, moreso than most,

so for me to glance through something means something.

 

So anyway, as a knowledge gathering person, my style is to appreciate

those items sometimes found which are "very good", like really complete

reference books, or things which are just plain good, good in form, good

in content, and so on.

 

When it comes to Indian books and Classics, suddenly I'm lost. They are

not "good" in the way I'm used to at all, for example, usually no word

index in the back, usually bad ink, ghosted images on the pages, things

torn, things crooked, unreadable even sometimes.

 

Then there's the problems with this knowledge coming to the West, such

as it's merging with Western Astrology, the two getting confused at

conferences, in classes, in newer books, and egos, and organizations,

qualifications, misunderstandings, you name it.

 

So now, you cannot, with Indian books on Jyotish, think, "OK, which one

is the dasha reference". Forget it. Doesn't exist it seems. The books

are all variegated. Often they are very disorganized, or so it seems to

me, but then I don't know Sanskrit rules or customs/cultures. There may

be organization I'm just not seeing, or maybe that didn't/doesn't matter

ultimately, which I think is true.

 

I think that to be confident with Jyotish as some on this list are, I

think one would need to really read alot of books, and really carefully

listen to the verses. I have seen over and over that with Indian

received knowledge, scriptural and more material, like Jyotish, that you

really have to listen CAREFULLY to what's being said, as the subtle

inferences may be just as important as what was actually said.

 

Like for example, if something says "This is the King of Dashas", then

that is different than if it said "This is the Queen of Dashas". That

MAY BE a big thing, in this verses case. You don't know until you think

it through at the very least, or possibly research it, or ask one more

learned on the topic.

 

So it takes time and energy to really study things which are from India

at this point. The knowledge tends to come in a disorganized way, kindof

haphazardly so it seems.

 

I once asked around for a long time if anyone knew where to find

descriptions of the Tithis, Yogas and Karans- what they mean/do or

anything about them.... these are parts of the Panchang or calendar.

 

I didn't hear anything back. Maybe there was nothing in English. Then I

found some in Jataka Baranam, which came out more recently.

 

So some things will appear gradually. There's alot still being brought

over, from books, families and sampradayas, individuals, research. We're

at an early point.

 

My main point is this though: I think you can probably get confident

with varga charts, and different dasha systems, if you read alot of

books carefully, studying and practicing what is in them, but I haven't

done that. I suppose others have, who are more confident than myself

about these types of things. I have seen alot of knowledge in the books,

but unfortunately...

 

....this one has a few good verses here...

 

....and this one here covers this, but it's not in the table of contents

or index...(no index)

 

....and nobody knows what's in the books that you can just call and ask...

 

....the existing one or two computer lookup programs have like 12 of the

300 or so English books out...

 

....most of us don't read our Jyotish books much I fear...

 

....it is difficult reading...

 

So, these are our times. We are not that good at this, most of us, and

there are not very many, if any, who are really good at it, and the

better they get, the harder they are to get ahold of and talk to... so

the knowledge doesn't grow that fast either. It's hard to get it clear.

 

And remember, those who can, do, and those who can't, teach.

 

Ever wonder about ads that say:

 

"Millionaire reveals secrets for only $49.99"

 

or how about

 

"Jyotishi with bad karma can solve your karmic problems, $150"

 

I'm kidding around.

 

For things we aim, are we to blame?

 

How fragile we are.

 

 

Peace out,

 

 

Raghu Goravani

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Das Goravani schrieb:

>

> In my last email I said something which I wish to clarify:

 

 

Dear Raghu,

 

YOU SAID IT!!!! I love ya!

 

The time has come, as the walrus might have said, to have an unprejudiced look

at things and evaluate our heritage: collect what is useful, put the rest in a

box for later times, if we have the luck to understand them better! Trying to

"integrate" everything is folly: some may be just junk!

 

There are two different original sources for Indian astrology: the Atlantean and

the Lemurian. Jaimini was Lemurian and agasthya too perhaps. The South Indian

chart is clockwise, devised by astrologers south of the equator.One of the

oldest "folk songs" of the south is nostalgic and says that India was not their

true homeland, but a land far away to the south, with red and green hills etc.

 

During the "classical" age - 500 BC till 800 AD - all Tamil literature was

translated into sanskrit. Jaimini wrote in Tamil. I have not (yet) found a good

source for the original names of signs, but the southern names have nothing to

do with aries (mesha), Taurus(Vrishabha) etc. The SI names are like "lyre",

"well" etc.

 

If we try to read the northern and southern books together we can make a lot of

mistakes. But today we don´t know which is which!

 

regards

Mani