More Diabetes: Chris

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Hi Chris,

 

At 11:28 AM 3/18/01 -0500, you wrote:

 

>In the first of your cases(Salt Lake City), Saturn rules the 5th and its

>aspected by Mars. The thing is however, that afflicted 5L Saturn aspects

>Venus and Venus aspects lagna -- and doubly so perhaps since lagna is

>Libra. So Venus has a double affliction from Mars and Saturn and that

>affliction is redirected back to the whole body in lagna. If the 5L

>affliction and Venus affliction is not connected in some way to lagna,

>perhaps the potential for diabetes/hypoglycemia falls away. So this is

>perhaps another way to distinguish between people who are more likely to

>have diabetes and those who don't: both may have the key factors afflicted

>but only the ones who have those factors connected with

>lagna/lagnesh/Sun/Moon will actually suffer the disease.

 

I agree, and I think this is the consummate answer for the question of why

some people get the disease with the above afflictions, whereas others don't.

 

* A couple of things come to mind here, in addition to what you have

said: The first is, and more importantly, that for Libra rising, a Rx

Jupiter is just as bad an affliction on lagna and lagna lord, as is Mars

and Saturn. Rulership of the 6th puts Jupiter in an odd position, wherein

normally he is a gentleman, but is forced to assume the role of a bad boy

for Libra lagnas. Retrogression of functional malefics only adds to their

virulence, and this can be seen in the case here.

 

* Further, by Rasi aspects, Saturn/Mars/Jupiter all afflict the 5th house,

and the fact that Saturn rules the 5th, does not spare the 5th.

 

* Still, the lagna and its lord are well afflicted here. The sign Venus

Libra the kidneys, and Venus rules the sugar and fluids to a certain

degree. It is worthy of notation, that blindness is caused by affliction

to Sun and Moon, wheres B.V. Raman also used to speak of Venus as a karaka

for vision. Sun and Jupiter are karakas for the 5th house, and this is

where their participation comes in. Anyway, related illness, such as

kidney disease and blindness result, and your explanation is very

significant, i.e. that Venus should additionally be the lagna lord, in

order that afflictions to it should bring about blood sugar imbalances.

 

* Moon is the chief karaka for fluids as well as Lymphatic functions, and

presumably due to a weakened Pancreas (5th house), insulin production

declines, thus putting too much stress on the liver. Remote karmic origins

for this, can be too much pursuit of desire (Venus) to the neglect of one's

spiritual consciousness (Jupiter/Sun/Moon), or the instructions of one's

gurus or elders.

 

>I would also say that varga charts are probably central to this whole

>question. Look at the D-6 of your first case. Asc is around 11Ge58 while

>rashi 5L Saturn aspects it near exact at 13Sg27. D-6 Asc of Wendy's sister

>is 22Ge01 and it is closely aspected by rashi 5L Mercury 24Sg27 and also

>Mars 18Sg39. (I have omitted consideration of your 2nd case because the

>TOB looks rounded off.)

 

Good point above D-6, and I didn't think to use actual varga

degrees. That's interesting.

 

The chart that brings it home for this case, is the Trimsamsa. Note that

in Trimsamsa, no planets will every occupy the signs of the luminaries,

because the Trimsamsas are ruled by the 5 planets, Mercury, Venus, Mars,

Jupiter, and Saturn. These represent the five Tattvas, or elements,

through which the senses are engaged: Mercury, earth; Venus, water; Mars,

fire; Jupiter, ether; and Saturn, air. Through our engagement of the

senses with their objects, we generate karmas on the physical plane. So,

whatever signs/houses are afflicted in the Trimsamsa chart, show how

transgressions or misdeeds had been the result of our pursuit of desire,

and thus wherein suffering occurs, by destiny, in the current lifetime.

 

In this native's chart, all the malefics, including 7th lord Mercury,

afflict the Moon. This accounts for disturbance to blood sugar, and bodily

fluids generally, as well as eyesight. the native became stone blind at

the age of 24.

 

Best wishes,

Robert

 

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