Hearing evil voices.

[Guest guest]

Dear J,

I seem to be tripping over myself lately. Making assumptions.

Living in my own head and not explaining myself very well.

As Das so beautifully explained, Lagna Lord Venus conjunct Ketu in 12th

is a difficult placement in itself. If Venus or Ketu are in Chitra Nakshatra

ruled by Mars, that may add to explaining his penchant for telling fibs. I

thought of the arudas as he may be under pressure of others' expectations.

Or, maybe others cannot understand his motivations. If the rest of the

planets are in good shape, this placement in and of itself can lead to self

undoing.(with others seeing Mad not Bad). In which case, he could be

counselled with "Little boys with sticky fingers spend time as a Lifers'

bitch"!. Just Kidding.

He would need to learn to take responsibility for his actions.

If Venus or Ketu are in Hasta Nakshatra ruled by the Moon, and the Moon

is badly afflicted, this could indicate psychosis.

Would you mind posting his birth details?.

Thank You,

Ann.

[Guest guest]

Dear Ann,

 

You wrote:

"If Venus or Ketu are in Hasta Nakshatra ruled by the Moon, and the

Moon is badly afflicted, this could indicate psychosis."

 

Is this because venus is lagna lord, or is it a general rule? I also

saw the combinations for insanity posted by another member of this

group. One such combination says that when Gulika and Mercury are

together, it causes insanity.

 

In my case Gulika and Mercury are in the eighth in Hasta. Moon is

debilitated in the kendra in scorpio. Should I be concerned?

[Guest guest]

Dear Venkatesh

 

Your concern over the conjunction of Gulika/Mercury is understandable,

however it's necessary to judge the horoscope as a whole rather than blindly

applying results of combinations (yogas) found in ancient texts. There are

many factors that can either support or nullify most yogas.

 

Insanity is a very strong term and for this to occur the chart in general,

and MO/ME/5th lord in particular, need to suffer strong affliction, void of

assistance from other planets.

 

Certainly the conjunction of Gulika/Mercury (which I also have) will produce

some negative effects during periods of Gulika's dispositor. One's

perception of things can suffer to a greater or lesser degree depending on

other factors, or one may find oneself feeling unjustifiably paranoid at

times, lack of clear thinking (reasoning) at times perhaps...things of that

nature...but insanity!?

 

Many factors must be considered before one can predict that.

 

Regards

Wendy

 

Venkatesh wrote:

I also saw the combinations for insanity posted by another member of this

group. One such combination says that when Gulika and Mercury are

together, it causes insanity.

 

In my case Gulika and Mercury are in the eighth in Hasta. Moon is

debilitated in the kendra in scorpio. Should I be concerned?

[Guest guest]

Well to start with you don't have Gulika conjunct Mercury. According to my

calculations Gulika is conjunct 4/9 lord Venus (in 9th). Mercury is in

moolatrikona sign in 8th house...the aspect from (friendly) Mars gives a

sharp intellect...not cloudy or afflicted at all. However, as Mars is

dispositor of Moon, you can be subject to some ups and downs (highs and

lows)...sometimes courageous, sometimes fearful.

 

The greatest difficulty I see is in relation to work/career with Rahu

inimically placed in 6th house of work, and Moon fallen in 10th house of

career.

 

Ascendant lord Saturn (dispositor of divine planet Jupiter) in own home in

12th, conjunct moksha karaka Ketu, gives a strong push towards

enlightenment.

 

Apart from Moon and Rahu you have a very strong chart: SU, ME, VE are all in

their moolatrikona signs; Asc lord SA is in own sign, whilst vargottama JU

has dik bala strength in ascendant. Also it's important to note that Moon is

well past it's degree of greatest fall and therefore (technically speaking)

is heading towards it's sign of exaltation.

 

Perhaps other astrologers would like to add their thoughts to this and

possibly offer remedies for (atma karaka) Moon.

 

BTW do you have a name?

 

Regards

Wendy

 

YOU WROTE:

Wendy,

Here are My Birth Time: September 7, 1962 6:11PM, Poona (18N34, 73E58)

Can you please help me? I tend to get worried when I see such

combinations.

[Guest guest]

Dear Venkatesh

 

YOU WROTE:

I have GJ and yes it shows Gulika in Libra. However, I am wondering

if there is a bug in this software or Gulika is calculated

differently in GJ. In all the other copies of my horoscope (from

various sources and done in different years), Gulika appears in Hasta

Nakshatra along with Mercury in Virgo, and is a few degrees apart

from Mercury.

 

MY REPLY:

There are different methods for calculating Gulika and (as far as I'm

concerned) the jury's still out on which one is correct. I actually used

Parashara's Light to calculate your chart as I'd forgot how to calculate the

upagrahas with GJ (sorry Das). With PL I get Gulika 04.16 Libra. I would

appreciate some input from other astrologers regarding the calculation of

Gulika. It would seem though that both PL and GJ (two top programs) have

Gulika in Libra.

 

YOU WROTE:

As far as Mars' aspect on Mercury is concerned, isn't

that a malefic aspect? Granted that Mars is a functional benefic and

improved by Jupiter's aspect, but he is still a natural Malefic

(therefore mixed results)

 

MY REPLY:

Mixed results indeed but important to note that Mars is friendly to Mercury

(being in 10th house from him), so the results as far as intellectual

ability is concerned are more beneficial...sharp intellect!

 

My previous comment:

==========

The greatest difficulty I see is in relation to work/career with Rahu

inimically placed in 6th house of work, and Moon fallen in 10th house

of career.

 

Your Thoughts

===========

You have Nailed it. Although I have made a name for myself at work,

success comes at a very high price for me. I am totally consumed by

my work which takes all my energy. Inspite of my success, I find that

I have to take a very "yes sir" type approach. I find that if I am

not careful, I can get into the "bad books".

I can't stand incompetency which is one of the reasons I gave up my

managament position. I just can't see spending my life telling people

what to do, tolerate insubordination, etc. etc. I am much happier

without the power to control people vested in me. These days, I am

happy to have a job.

 

MY REPLY:

Moon in 10th denotes that one will be emotionally attached to their career

and spend a great deal of time achieving success in what they do. Because

Moon is weakened in Scorpio success will not be all that easy...as you said,

it comes slowly and at a price.

 

YOU WROTE:

I wonder how my Moon Dasa will be. This is a mind boggling question.

In most vargas moon occupies good houses. But it is debilitated and

afflicted by Rahu's aspect. Does it mean I will lose my Job, Status,

Income and Peace of Mind during Moon (my Atmakaraka)dasa? What kind

of lessons do I have to learn?

 

MY REPLY:

You're likely to encounter some instability in this area...some

changes...some ups and downs career wise. But not all bad (in my opinion) as

Moon is well placed in 10th divisional chart. Certainly some changes can be

expected though, especially as the Karaka for 10th (Mercury) is in 8th house

of change (metamorphous). With Mercury exalted I think the changes will for

the best. At the time though change can sometimes seem catastrophic :-)

 

My previous comment:

=========

Ascendant lord Saturn (dispositor of divine planet Jupiter) in own

home in 12th, conjunct moksha karaka Ketu, gives a strong push towards

enlightenment.

 

Your Reply

===========

100% true. However, I have noted that ketu dasa/antardasa's so far

have not been good. During My Ketu dasa I went from the top five in

the (school) class to one who failed his class two years in a row.

(1973-74). Saturn antardasa's have been mixed. My Sadesati was also

mixed.

 

MY REPLY:

Both SA and KE are in the constellation (nakshatra) of MOON. Of course you

know that both the nodes are bitter enemies of Moon...so not surprising that

things could be difficult for you during Ketu's periods.

 

YOU WROTE:

The only thing good in the horoscope is many Planets being in their

own house or in trines. I just hope I will not lose my mind some day

because of the Gulika/Mercury Combination in Virgo, that too in the

eighth. I seen how the chart maybe otherwise strong, but the rule

just hits me hard (Gulika+Mercury=Insane+Virgo=Worse)

 

MY REPLY:

Atmakaraka Moon (planet of the mind) fallen in 10th and aspecting 4th house

of happiness & contentment can make one a natural "worrier" but I think

you're worrying unduly...especially in regards to Gulika...as I said, my

calculations have him in Libra.

 

I hope others will offer some advice on this

 

Regards

Wendy

[Guest guest]

Hello Venkatesh,

 

I hope you do not mind me contributing to your chart questions.

 

Mercury in the 8th exalted is excellent both. The 8th is a rajayoga

postion for Mercury, especially in own house. Mars in this chart is

functionally malefic, because although it owns the strongest kendra,

it also owns the 3rd house, which makes it overall malefic. As it

afflicts the 5th house, its lord, and Mercury it is bad for your

peace of mind, and will cause anger during its cycle, but will not

cause insanity. It is bad, because Mercury is the worst enemy of

Mars. However Mars due to this reason is weak as it is in its enemy's

house. Secondly its aspect will deter Mercury, but now overpower it,

due to Mercury's exaltation.

 

Moon debilitated in the 10th will cause you to focus on your career

during its dasa, the thoughts will be troubled and worrisome due to

the debilitation, and there is no neechabhanga. However as Wendy has

correctly pointed out, Moon is not in fact debilitated, but leaving

debilitation, which causes mixed results. Results attributed to this

are lording over a woman, profit from sales, yet also disease.

However these are general, but just to show you that the results will

be mixed.

 

secondly there is the gajakesari yoga it combines with jupiter, who

is vargottama and otherwise favourably disposed, with Venus' rasi

dristi. So this will help your career, and removes affliction to Moon

in regards to career achievement as this is a rajayoga.

 

Rahu in Cancer, and Ketu in Capricorn according to some classics are

in their own signs or at least strongly placed.

 

Warm Regards,

 

Alex J

 

 

gjlist, swamyvk wrote:

> Dear Wendy,

> My apologies for leaving my name out.My name is Venkatesh. I have

> learnt astrology off and on using BV Raman's teachings since 1986.

> But the quest for the ultimate knowledge goes on. I am still a

novice.

>

> I am grateful to you and others in this group who have patiently

> answered my questions. As I learn more about astrology, I find

> good/bad combinations in my chart. Some make me feel good, while

> others worry me to obsession levels. There are two things that

really

> bother me. One is the Moon and the other the Mercury/Gulika

> combination.

>

> You had written:

> ===============

> Well to start with you don't have Gulika conjunct Mercury.

According

> to my calculations Gulika is conjunct 4/9 lord Venus (in 9th).

> Mercury is in moolatrikona sign in 8th house...the aspect from

> (friendly) Mars gives a sharp intellect...not cloudy or afflicted

at

> all. However, as Mars is dispositor of Moon, you can be subject to

> some ups and downs (highs and lows...sometimes courageous,

sometimes

> fearful.

>

> My Thoughts:

> ============

> I have GJ and yes it shows Gulika in Libra. However, I am wondering

> if there is a bug in this software or Gulika is calculated

> differently in GJ. In all the other copies of my horoscope (from

> various sources and done in different years), Gulika appears in

Hasta

> Nakshatra along with Mercury in Virgo, and is a few degrees apart

> from Mercury. As far as Mars' aspect on Mercury is concerned, isn't

> that a malefic aspect? Granted that Mars is a functional benefic

and

> improved by Jupiter's aspect, but he is still a natural Malefic

> (therefore mixed results)

>

> You Wrote:

> ==========

> The greatest difficulty I see is in relation to work/career with

Rahu

> inimically placed in 6th house of work, and Moon fallen in 10th

house

> of career.

>

> My Thoughts

> ===========

> You have Nailed it. Although I have made a name for myself at work,

> success comes at a very high price for me. I am totally consumed by

> my work which takes all my energy. Inspite of my success, I find

that

> I have to take a very "yes sir" type approach. I find that if I am

> not careful, I can get into the "bad books".

> I can't stand incompetency which is one of the reasons I gave up my

> managament position. I just can't see spending my life telling

people

> what to do, tolerate insubordination, etc. etc. I am much happier

> without the power to control people vested in me. These days, I am

> happy to have a job.

>

> I wonder how my Moon Dasa will be. This is a mind boggling

question.

> In most vargas moon occupies good houses. But it is debilitated and

> afflicted by Rahu's aspect. Does it mean I will lose my Job,

Status,

> Income and Peace of Mind during Moon (my Atmakaraka)dasa? What kind

> of lessons do I have to learn?

>

> You Wrote

> =========

> Ascendant lord Saturn (dispositor of divine planet Jupiter) in own

> home in 12th, conjunct moksha karaka Ketu, gives a strong push

towards

> enlightenment.

>

> My Comments

> ===========

> 100% true. However, I have noted that ketu dasa/antardasa's so far

> have not been good. During My Ketu dasa I went from the top five in

> the (school) class to one who failed his class two years in a row.

> (1973-74). Saturn antardasa's have been mixed. My Sadesati was also

> mixed.

>

> The only thing good in the horoscope is many Planets being in their

> own house or in trines. I just hope I will not lose my mind some

day

> because of the Gulika/Mercury Combination in Virgo, that too in the

> eighth. I seen how the chart maybe otherwise strong, but the rule

> just hits me hard (Gulika+Mercury=Insane+Virgo=Worse)

>

> Here is my chart from another program

> ======================================

> --

> These calculations were made using "Jagannatha Hora Lite". It is a

> free software from Sri Jagannath Vedic Centre. You can download it

> from http://www.geocities.com/~astrowhiz or http://www.sjvc.net.

> --

>

> Date of Birth: September 7, 1962

> Time of Birth: 6:11:00 pm

> Time Zone of Birth: 5:30 East of GMT

> Longitude of Birth: 73 E 58

> Latitude of Birth: 18 N 34

> Lunar month (maasa): Bhadrapada

> Lunar day (tithi): Sukla Ashtami

> Tithi balance: 0.2592

> Nakshatra balance: 0.4524

> Sun-Moon Yoga: Priti

> Sun-Moon Karana: Bava

> Vara (weekday): Friday

>

> Sunrise = 6:20 am (Apparent rise - upper limb)

> Ayanamsa = 23-19-55

> Dasa year length chosen = 365.2425 days

>

> Planet Position Pada CharaK

>

> Ascdt 11 Aq 55 Satabhisham 2 -

> Sun 21 Le 04 Poo.Pha. 3 AmK

> Moon 23 Sc 58 Jyeshtha 3 AK

> Mars 16 Ge 47 Aardra 4 MK

> Mercury 17 Vi 38 Hastha 3 BK

> Jupiter ® 13 Aq 28 Satabhisham 3 PK

> Venus 7 Li 09 Swathi 1 DK

> Saturn ® 12 Cp 15 Sravanam 1 GK

> Rahu 13 Cn 28 Pushyami 4 PiK

> Ketu 13 Cp 28 Sravanam 2 -

> BhavaLg 18 Aq 15 Satabhisham 4 -

> HoraLg 15 Le 54 Poo.Pha. 1 -

> GhatiLg 8 Aq 52 Satabhisham 1 -

> Dhooma 4 Cp 24 U.Shaa. 3 -

> Vyati 25 Ge 35 Punarvasu 2 -

> Pari 25 Sg 35 Poo.Shaa. 4 -

> I.Chapa 4 Cn 24 Pushyami 1 -

> Upaketu 21 Cn 04 Aasresha 2 -

> Kaala 25 Li 08 Visakha 2 -

> Mrityu 6 Sg 51 Moola 3 -

> ArthaPr 29 Sg 06 U.Shaa. 1 -

> YamaGha 23 Cp 57 Dhanishtha 1 -

> Mandi 22 Vi 53 Hastha 4 -

> Gulika 11 Vi 52 Hastha 1 -

>

>

> +----------------------+

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> | | | | Mar |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | |

> | GL Asc | | |

> | | | Rah |

> | JupR BL | | |

> | | | |

> |-------------| R A S I |-------------|

> | | | |

> | SatR | | HL |

> | | | |

> | Ket | | Sun |

> | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | | Glk |

> | | | | |

> | | Moo | Ven | Mer |

> | | | | |

> | | | | Mnd |

> +----------------------+

>

> +----------------------+

> | | | | |

> | Mar | Glk | | |

> | | | Ket | Mer |

> | BL | SatR | | |

> | | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | |

> | Moo | | |

> | | | Mnd |

> | JupR | | |

> | | | |

> |-------------| N A V A M S A |-------------|

> | | | |

> | | | |

> | Asc | | HL |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> |-------------|---------------------------|-------------|

> | | | | |

> | Ven | | | |

> | | Rah | Sun | |

> | GL | | | |

> | | | | |

> +----------------------+