Killing Daddy with Your Chart

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There's no way a child is responsible for his parents natural death. Not

really. Even if indirectly responsible as in "being a pain in the butt".

Certainly sometimes the stress of dealing with a child is part of what

ages a parent.

 

I am a parent, and I have to take responsibility for my actions, even if

they are "forced" upon me as in the cases like "my child has problems I

have to deal with".

 

Either you choose to serve God through what he presents to you, or you

choose to want otherwise and suffer.

 

As for "professional" astrologers, please note, there is no such thing.

It's impossible. We are forever students. There are no masters here in

this field. People with "big names" like KN Rao and others are

struggling to get it right also. Everyone is a student here. We are

examining God's own artwork. Nothing less. It's way over our heads.

 

If someone charges you to look at a chart, they are charging for their

time, not expertise, because they don't have any. They may know the

science well, but that's no guarantee of accuracy. Sometimes the ones

with "all the knowledge" are the least accurate with predictions because

frankly, it just happens to be their karma to always be wrong, but "very

learned". This can and does happen, unfortunately, buyer beware. Jnan

(knowledge) and vijnan, (realization), are different.

 

And certainly "big mouth" is not a sign of "correct". Usually just a

sign of "I need to be heard" and "I need love" (the second one being my

case for example as one big mouth).

 

Then there's human stuff. Let's say an astrologer saw strange things

around Daddy in his chart or your chart, if Daddy was sitting right

there in front of the astrologette, then do you think he'd say "Oh,

you're dead in 2 weeks".

 

Nope.

 

But he didn't see it, I almost guarantee that.

 

It's a very difficult science.

 

Yesterday a Hindu couple talked to me about this same thing, wondering

if it was their grandparents "fault" that their child was born with problems.

 

This is a part of Hinduism that somehow didn't make it into the branch

I'm familiar with. I've never heard this kind of multi-generational

guilt put quite this way.

 

I do however know the true side of this quite well.

 

The true side is that all things in your life are related. Like for

example, I have Rahu in 5th (or it has me more exactly).

 

So I've had various "interesting and exotic experiences" with my kids,

like watching my daughters skin roll off he burned and dead body before

my eyes....wait, she's not dead yet....that was trippy...

 

Then my son, "I love you Dad" with his jaw hanging off the side of his

head like meat in the butcher shop...after a car crash...

 

OK, then also, Rahu in the 5th gives exotic creativity, and foreign

spouses since it's 7th from the Moon too...

 

So all things are interrelated. Now, whatever "character flaws" my Rahu

gives me in the 5th in Leo, those are also "interrelated" with why I

must experience heavy things with my kids say.

 

So then one can draw connections...because you are "this way" you must

also "suffer this thing". This is true I suppose on one level, but do

we need to connect them "therefore..."; do we have the intellectual

RIGHT and correctness to say that "THEREFORE" connection.

 

Not really.

 

Often to sound important and significant, insecure astrologers will say

so many things, really just to sound more "prophetic" than they really are.

 

Actually, eveyone is just insecure, and needy of love, because we're all

highly threatened here. We're all so vulnerable it's unreal.

 

We are in a difficult life. There is death, meat based bodies,

vulnerable bodies, predators, vulnerable egos, not enough love,

conflicting desires between neighboring living entities, there really is

no peace and no safety. OK, so life basically SUCKS big time if you look

at it from the angle of vision of "being happy" in the "normal" way

(normal being "we are these bodies and this is our real life").

 

But if you get into being a spiritualists, where you measure yourself by

your values, ethics, abilities to overcome maya, abilities to live and

direct yourself from beyond the mortal frame, then you are on an open

and spacious field of immense possibility. Wow. What an opportunity.

 

Personally, I suck at this game (spirituality). I'm lame as hell at

spirituality. Like a fish hitting a cement wall I say "Dam".

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Das Goravani wrote:

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> There's no way a child is responsible for his parents natural death.

 

Dear Raghu,

 

Great posting indeed! Here some additional thoughts:

 

Since we are all born in "families" our fates are connected. If a person´s

horoscope shows early death of father etc. it is only a confirmation of what is

to be seen from that person´s horoscope. If ma father´s death affects me

strongly it will be shown in my chart: emotional pain or relief, great

inheritance etc. If the death leaves me cold, it may not be particularly

reflected in my chart!

 

There is also another possibility: although "fates" are generally

pre-determined, there are continuous changes. Life is a "project" to learn from.

there are margins and free will determines the tempo of learning. If one

learns quick, there is no clear reason for existing on earth. One can then

depart, or new semesters are offered! These changes can be reflected in the

chart of a new-born child: if the father has finished his task early, it may be

decided that he should leave the earth, and this may be shown in the chart of a

child.

 

A Greek saying: Those whom the Gods love die young! Gods love those particularly

who fulfill their tasks quick!

 

That "karma" - not as tit-for-tat or "crime and punishment" but as "tasks" and

"semesters" - can be varied and adjusted to one´s achievements is clear to me:

visions and information received during trances have taught me this.

 

Astrology shows only tendencies, does not reveal "absolute" certainties! The

stars impel, Not compel! An avatar like Sri Sai Baba can change even the lines

on one´s hand!

 

No astrologer should ever blame anyone for the fates of others: this

"blaming" makes all philosophy and religion meaningless!

 

Raghu, you are getting older!!!!! During the last 4 years or so I see a

tremendous transformation in you: tolerance, humility and rationality as

"VIVEKA" have replaced your previous dogmatism! I am happy that I have a contact

with you, feel enriched! Neither of us can learn from each other regarding the

ABSOLUTE TRUTH, but it is great to know that one is not alone in the search,

that others too are trying the same path!

 

God bless you

Mani

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If that was so, the inter connectivity of horoscopes would lose meaning. Try

this, death of your Father would take place in the dasha/antardasha of your

Third Lord/Fourth Lord or Second Lord and 12th Lord from Sun (being Karaka

of Father). The Marak sthans from Ninth house should be analysed for death

of one's father.

 

regards,

 

Manoj

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