Lord of the 7th

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hi,

 

I am very interested in vedic astrology, but it proves to be something

that I cannot master due to lack of time. I understand that the 12th

house is the house of loss, and the 7th house is the house of

marriage/spouse. My 7th Lord(Mars) is in the 12the house; Aries. Since

Aries is his own house is a possibility that there will not be much

harm?.

 

Ragu is in my 8th house. What does this interpret to?.

 

All help will be greatly appreciated.

 

Best Regards

easwari

[Guest guest]

Mars is in Aries. Therefore he is strong as 12th Lord and Seventh

Lord. He also aspects the seventh house, which is good as well. Since

he owns the seventh and 12th, he cannot but have good effects on

these houses. However, Without knowing the aspects to Mars and his

associations with other planets, it is difficult to say what his

strenghth's are. (A benefic aspect/association to the Mars in 12th,

strenghtens Mars.) Also how is he in Navamsa? 12th Lord in 12th

brings good expenses...Just curious...Have you spent money on account

of co-borns?

 

The same goes for Rahu. His being in the seventh and debilitated is

not good. If I remember correctly, this may give marriage to a

foreigner.. Does Rahu get neechabhanga? How is he in Navamsa?These

are issues to be considered while providing decisions.

 

A third consideration is the seventh house from the moon and its

lord. Depending upon who is stronger--Lagna or Chandra Lagna...the

results can be decided upon...

 

 

gjlist, easwari thoreraj <easwari@a...> wrote:

> hi,

>

> I am very interested in vedic astrology, but it proves to be

something

> that I cannot master due to lack of time. I understand that the 12th

> house is the house of loss, and the 7th house is the house of

> marriage/spouse. My 7th Lord(Mars) is in the 12the house; Aries.

Since

> Aries is his own house is a possibility that there will not be much

> harm?.

>

> Ragu is in my 8th house. What does this interpret to?.

>

> All help will be greatly appreciated.

>

> Best Regards

> easwari

[Guest guest]

So generally Mars will not do harm for me and there is no "Seva Dhosam"?

You are right about my expenses there, I spend half of my earnings , helping

my brothers. ...

 

What about Ragu occupying the 8th house. Will there be bad effect from

this?.

The Lord of the 8; Guru is in the 9th and has lost his strength. Does that

meant that Guru will

generally give bad effects at all the houses that he is looking at?

 

On the other hand, My moon sign is Aqarius and the 7th house from the moon

is ocupied by Sun (his own house).

I really don't understand the Navamsa part, but in my Navamsa, lagna is

Gemini and Guru being the Lord of 7th

house is ocupying the 11th house.

 

I was enggaged before and it was called off and l had a bad time coping with

that frustration some years ago.

Now I feel rather scared to commit to another relationship for fear that my

horoscope is not very good generally

for love relationship. What do you think?.

 

To give a better picture:

Lagna: Taurus

Sani and Ketu : 2nd house (Gemini)

Sun: 4th house (Leo)

Mercury: 5th house(Virgo)

Venus: 6th house (Libra)

Ragu;8th house (Sagitarius)

Jupiter: 9th house (Capricorn)

Moon: 10th house (Aquarius)

Mars: 12house(Aries)

 

Navamsa:

lagna:Gemini

Ragu:2nd house (Cancer)

Mars:3rd house (Leo)

Moon: 5th house (libra)

Sun and Venus: 6th house (Scorpio)

Mercury,Sani,Ketu: 8th house (Capricorn).

 

Rgds and Thanks

Easwari

 

 

swamyvk wrote:

 

> Mars is in Aries. Therefore he is strong as 12th Lord and Seventh

> Lord. He also aspects the seventh house, which is good as well. Since

> he owns the seventh and 12th, he cannot but have good effects on

> these houses. However, Without knowing the aspects to Mars and his

> associations with other planets, it is difficult to say what his

> strenghth's are. (A benefic aspect/association to the Mars in 12th,

> strenghtens Mars.) Also how is he in Navamsa? 12th Lord in 12th

> brings good expenses...Just curious...Have you spent money on account

> of co-borns?

>

> The same goes for Rahu. His being in the seventh and debilitated is

> not good. If I remember correctly, this may give marriage to a

> foreigner.. Does Rahu get neechabhanga? How is he in Navamsa?These

> are issues to be considered while providing decisions.

>

> A third consideration is the seventh house from the moon and its

> lord. Depending upon who is stronger--Lagna or Chandra Lagna...the

> results can be decided upon...

>

> gjlist, easwari thoreraj <easwari@a...> wrote:

> > hi,

> >

> > I am very interested in vedic astrology, but it proves to be

> something

> > that I cannot master due to lack of time. I understand that the 12th

> > house is the house of loss, and the 7th house is the house of

> > marriage/spouse. My 7th Lord(Mars) is in the 12the house; Aries.

> Since

> > Aries is his own house is a possibility that there will not be much

> > harm?.

> >

> > Ragu is in my 8th house. What does this interpret to?.

> >

> > All help will be greatly appreciated.

> >

> > Best Regards

> > easwari

>

>

> gjlist-

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

[Guest guest]

Can you provide your correct date/place/time of birth? We can analyze

the horoscope better...

[Guest guest]

gjlist, Caldera OpenLinux User <easwari@a...> wrote:

> So generally Mars will not do harm for me and there is no "Seva

>Dhosam"?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

Om Amrtesvaryai Namah:

 

Namaste dear Sister!!

 

in reference to your questions about Mars and so on...as far as i

understand it, if Mars is ruler of both the 7th and the 12th, then he

is not a friend of yours ......as both the 7th and 12th are

challenging houses...and if he is IN the 12th...that strengthens the

indictions of difficulties (worldly wise that is....he may be

perfectly GOOD for you in a spiritual way)...as He will bring various

kinds of losses in the 12th, especially during Mars periods, and

transits...those losses will be seen as negative impacts for a very

worldly person, but will be seen merely as lightening the load for a

person whose aim is the Divine....Good for Moksha not so good for Kama

or Artha.

 

the 7th is a house of difficulties (marriage and partnerships are not

usually easy!!), and its lord is considered a Maraka (killer) lord...

so i would be very careful around his kind of energy...violent, angry,

passionate, shorttempered, infectious diseases, blood

disorders....those are possible threats....and if he rules the

marriage house, i'd suggest that this might indicate somewhat greater

tendencies for strife with the partner, although also, lots of passion

could be there. (this will fluctuate with the transits and Periods you

are going thru...it's not a permanent thing.)

 

with Rahu in the 8th, we have a continuation of the challenges, since

Rahu or Ketu in the 8th tend to indicate "difficult Marital

karma"...(i have this placement too...only it is Ketu in the 8th) it

doesn't mean you won't get married, but that it might be difficult to

find the right partner, and when you do, the difficulties will be

still there in maintaining the alliance....

 

 

 

(this is true for most people anyways even without these

placements...but the Nodes being in the 8th will increase the

likelihood of these difficulties...) however one can also see that one

will be "karmically" connected with that person one marries, and thus

the "difficulties" could be seen as merely the squaring up of previous

Karmic accounts with that person...and thus a means of "purification"

so that one may become a more fit vessel for the Divine Love...

 

(However Rahu in the 8th might be good for again, the spiritual

life...i know Ketu is good for this in the 8th...and they are just the

two sides of the same coin...Ketu in the 8th is a Moksha indicator if

i recall....so Rahu may be good here also...although the way will be

thru the difficulties brought on by the Node....)

 

if Guru seems to give "bad results" it is because we do not see His

purpose...and we are living contrary to His Dharma...when we attune

ourselves to the Guru, we will see these difficulties which Guru sends

as precious opportunities to grow to be more adorable, merging at last

in the Sacred Om...so says my Beloved Ammachi...my Mother and my Guru,

Sri Mata Amritanandamayi Devi.

 

in my own chart, as Guru is lord of the 12th, and 3rd (and in the

3rd), he is no friend of mine either (in a worldly way), however in a

spiritual way He is the Best friend, because he brings what is needed

to grow.....i look at Sani the same way....as my Beloved Mother

Kali....Whose training of Her children can be very strict, but at the

same time it is very LOVING also...if we get beyond our selfish

moaning about how our lives are not up the Hollywood standard...

 

So actually the entire chart can be looked at as a map of the karmas

that you have brought with you to this earth....they are a guide to

what you still have to learn...it's nothing personal when the Grahas

grab you and make you learn some difficult lesson, such as how

fleeting the world is...or how you can't really depend on any other

Humans...these lessons are really meant to make us surrender at the

Lotus Feet of the Divine Mother....and the sooner we see the facts of

this life on earth the better....We are not here for a "good" time, we

are here in School....and the sooner we learn our lessons, the sooner

we can go back home to the Divine Beloved....These lessons are meant

to bring us to more dispassion, more renunciation, more Divine Love,

and as such they may be somewhat painful for that wily old

ego...however, we are not in charge...and these lessons will be a

continual reminder of this....that really THIS IS NOT OUR HOME....and

our families are only fellow travellers staying at the inn for some

days...and then they're off.....So as long as we are attached to the

hotel, we'll have to get some more training....

 

even though we are all yearning for a significant "someone" to love

and who will love us in this life, is it not true that we are in

reality placing our attentions in the wrong direction?....in reality

that yearning feeling is just a yearning feeling for oneness and

Love...there are no names attached until WE attach them....we could

also apply that yearning feeling to our Beloved Deity or our

Guruji...and then it would be DivineLove...and would help us grow,

rather than hold us back.

 

as long as we are satisfied with the pretty baubles and candies that

the Mother hands us when we start crying, She'll continue stirring Her

pots in Her Cosmic Kitchen....Only when we are totally dissatisfied

with all of Her tricks...all of Her toys, and candies, and start to

yell in earnest....never giving up....just like a lonesome, wailing

2-year old...then She'll have to put Her stirring spoon down and

running hastily into the room, pick up Her darling little child and

comfort her/him on Her Divine Lap...How do i know this to be true? it

is my personal experience...

 

One can look at all the challenges presented by life, and thru the

chart, as actually great opportunities, rather then negatives..it

depends upon our own point of view...if we have full faith in Our

Beloved Deity...then what have we to worry about...since we know that

She is taking care of us perfectly no matter what happens...and we

accept all of life as the Beloved Deity's Prasad....

 

However if we don't have full faith in the Beloved Deity, and Mars is

afflicting our charts, we may need to do some Mars

propitiation....observing Tuesdays for example, not wearing

RED...avoiding really Rajasic things...and Rajasic people and

activities, because they will only exacerbate that Mars energy...

 

 

it's really a matter of Shraddha...keeping careful awareness of what

you are doing...and discriminating in your choices of activities...it

never hurts to do some spiritual practices also...cultivating

dispassion, discrimination, renunciation and Divine Love....

 

In the Divine Mother's Love,

and in Her Service,

 

as ever,

Your own Self,

 

visvanathan

 

Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!

[Guest guest]

Namaste,

 

How so very nourishing, this piece of reminder, of who i am , and what i am

here for. I have spent hours thinking about my life and the little

dissapointments i face pertaining my 7th house so far. I guess I will go

ahead and get married and use all the challenges for spiritual realisation.

The current proposal which seem to have the best synastry match for me, seem

to indicate extra marital affair for him. Regardless of who I marry, the

result is not going to be frustrating anyway, so I'll get it over and done

with regardless of affairs.

 

I have read many spiritual text and yet cannot bring renunciation to my life

and put worldly life to a control. Looks like Lord Muruga has prepared a

hard lesson to dicipline me.

 

However (a little hope), what might be the best thing to do to beg his

mercy?. I can observe on Tuesdays ; I do try to be a vegetarian on Tuesdays

now but what sort of prayer should I do to keep Mars and Raghu's energy

away?.

 

I understand Rajasic nature as being concentrated to sense gratification. Is

this the correct definition?

 

Thank you so much ,

 

best regards

easwari thoreraj

 

kasi_visvanath wrote:

 

> gjlist, Caldera OpenLinux User <easwari@a...> wrote:

> > So generally Mars will not do harm for me and there is no "Seva

> >Dhosam"?

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

> One can look at all the challenges presented by life, and thru the

> chart, as actually great opportunities, rather then negatives..it

> depends upon our own point of view...if we have full faith in Our

> Beloved Deity...then what have we to worry about...since we know that

> She is taking care of us perfectly no matter what happens...and we

> accept all of life as the Beloved Deity's Prasad....

>

> However if we don't have full faith in the Beloved Deity, and Mars is

> afflicting our charts, we may need to do some Mars

> propitiation....observing Tuesdays for example, not wearing

> RED...avoiding really Rajasic things...and Rajasic people and

> activities, because they will only exacerbate that Mars energy...

>

> it's really a matter of Shraddha...keeping careful awareness of what

> you are doing...and discriminating in your choices of activities...it

> never hurts to do some spiritual practices also...cultivating

> dispassion, discrimination, renunciation and Divine Love....

>

> In the Divine Mother's Love,

> and in Her Service,

>

> as ever,

> Your own Self,

>

> visvanathan

>

> Om Amrtesvaryai Namah!

>

>

> gjlist-

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

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Namaste,

Since you have requested, the details are as below:

My date of birth: 10/9/1973

time of birth is: 11.23pm

Longitude: 100.467 deg. (from the chart that i have)

Latitude: 5.367 deg.

Place of birth: Bukit Mertajam (town),Penang(state), Malaysia.

 

Thank you so much,

best regards

easwari

swamyvk wrote:

 

> Can you provide your correct date/place/time of birth? We can analyze

> the horoscope better...

>

>

> gjlist-

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

[Guest guest]

I am assuming that your date of birth is 10th September 1973. I have

cast your horoscope and this is what I feel:

 

1. Mars being the lord of 7 and 12 is not bad here. Mars is in the

12th, aspected by lagna/sixth lord and karaka venus. I would consider

this as a good sign, inspite of venus owning the sixth.

 

2. From the Moon,the lord of 7 is in 7 aspected by Saturn. Saturn is

lagna/12th lord which is both good and bad. The moon, who happens to

be sixth lord from Chandra lagna aspects Sun. As a natural benefic

his aspects are good.

 

3. In navamsa, Mars is in 6 in leo. Jupiter aspects 7th house from

his own house.

 

4. Usually, there are two marriages when lord of 7 is in 12. The

husband also may have an affair. However, I do not think this will

happen because Mars owns 7 and aspects it. Lord of 7 in 7 (Sun from

Chandra Lagna,) if weak (low Shadbala for sun in your case)may result

in loss through Marriage Negotiations.

 

Overall, I think it will be extreme to say that marriage will not be

good. The seventh house and lord has good strength. Do not worry,

marriage will happen, and will be good.

 

....One thing interesting is From both lagna and the moon, Lagna and

Sixth Lords aspect the 7th Lord. From the moon, moon is the sixth

lord and Saturn is lagna Lord, and they aspect the seventh lord Sun

and house. From the lagna, Seventh Lord gets aspected by sixth and

lagna lord venus...You will experience the significance of this. I am

not sure what this will result in...

[Guest guest]

That was quick!. Looks like I do have some hope from your predictions.

Naturally, I think I can relate to your predictions coz' what I have

experienced so far is that, the first relationship almost went to the stage

of marriage (registered to be married but not traditionally married, later

the registration was declared null and void coz' the groom had some mental

problems). That can be considered 1st marriage, but not real marriage.

 

Now, the proposed groom is not such a responsible person (money minded,

cunning, short-tempered, don't like to be burdened with responsibility,

would like me to be very-very-very independant, childish, etc..) So far, I

know I can tolerate him, love and care for him even... but there is no real

respect/admiration for him from me. For all the time that I know him, I

have not been happy with him, I think that my life will be doomed to

loneliness if I marry him.

 

Somehow I can feel that there is something that is blocking the peace

,togetherness and marriage betweeen the two of us. The wedding arrangement

was about to take place last year July and his younger brother past away, so

the wedding has been postpone to next year. Now I wonder if the wedding

will take place at all and more than that... should I get married in the

first place..... From your predictions, looks like it's worth giving a try.

 

However, I really would like to thank you for being so kind in taking the

time to do this analysis for me. It is hard to find kindness these days, and

really my eyes gets misty to know that there still are many kind souls out

there. Anyway I guess I will let God decide thru time what I should do.

 

Best Regards

Easwari Thoreraj

 

 

swamyvk wrote:

 

> I am assuming that your date of birth is 10th September 1973. I have

> cast your horoscope and this is what I feel:

>

> 1. Mars being the lord of 7 and 12 is not bad here. Mars is in the

> 12th, aspected by lagna/sixth lord and karaka venus. I would consider

> this as a good sign, inspite of venus owning the sixth.

>

> 2. From the Moon,the lord of 7 is in 7 aspected by Saturn. Saturn is

> lagna/12th lord which is both good and bad. The moon, who happens to

> be sixth lord from Chandra lagna aspects Sun. As a natural benefic

> his aspects are good.

>

> 3. In navamsa, Mars is in 6 in leo. Jupiter aspects 7th house from

> his own house.

>

> 4. Usually, there are two marriages when lord of 7 is in 12. The

> husband also may have an affair. However, I do not think this will

> happen because Mars owns 7 and aspects it. Lord of 7 in 7 (Sun from

> Chandra Lagna,) if weak (low Shadbala for sun in your case)may result

> in loss through Marriage Negotiations.

>

> Overall, I think it will be extreme to say that marriage will not be

> good. The seventh house and lord has good strength. Do not worry,

> marriage will happen, and will be good.

>

> ...One thing interesting is From both lagna and the moon, Lagna and

> Sixth Lords aspect the 7th Lord. From the moon, moon is the sixth

> lord and Saturn is lagna Lord, and they aspect the seventh lord Sun

> and house. From the lagna, Seventh Lord gets aspected by sixth and

> lagna lord venus...You will experience the significance of this. I am

> not sure what this will result in...

>

>

> gjlist-

>

>

>

> Your use of is subject to

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Test

With regards,

manvantara

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<swamyvk

<gjlist>

Friday, March 02, 2001 8:40 AM

[gjlist] Re: Lord of the 7th

 

 

> Can you provide your correct date/place/time of birth? We can analyze

> the horoscope better...

>

>

>

> gjlist-

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Would it help to get married in a good nakshatra (Rohini; "The wife is the

darling of her husband," etc.) w/ maybe Pisces Lagna after Jupiter goes into

Gemini so there's Jupiter in Fourth and Saturn in 3rd? That is, pick a good

muhurtha and the marriage kinda takes on a life of it's own.

Robin Welch

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/3/2001 1:12:22 AM Eastern Standard Time,

easwari writes:

 

 

> For all the time that I know him, I have not been happy with him, I think

> that my life will be doomed to loneliness if I marry him.

>

>

 

Every time a person ignores their "inner voice," I believe they are

making a big mistake. After reading how you feel, I hope you run from this

one. How about find a new man whose has a benefic Jupiter conjunct your

moon, and marry him during a good nakshatra?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi!

 

i have this situation: taurus lagfna, Mars in aries, but very close to "exalted"

sun. Partners were a problem: fell in love and had relationships with very

deairable girls. But all ended abruptly and painfully. My marriage lasted for 17

years, but from the moment I got married officially it became hell!

 

I think any aspect of Mars on the seventh ruins the partnership. For taurus

lagna it does not kill the partner, but disrupts.

 

regards

Mani