Guest guest Posted February 16, 2001 Report Share Posted February 16, 2001 Dear List Members: A friend of mine recently discovered several blood clots under her skin. There has been no diagnosis but the doctors are very concerned. If anyone would like to review the following chart for possible remedial measures to supplement possible medical proceedures it would be appreciated. In addition to the blood clots, this woman is anorexic and has not experienced a menstrual period in over 3 years. DOB: 10/26/75 00.28 AM PST 38N26 122W43 Santa Rosa, California, USA Thanks in advance. marcia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2001 Report Share Posted February 16, 2001 Marcia wrote: > Dear List Members: > A friend of mine recently discovered several blood clots under her skin. > There has been no diagnosis but the doctors are very concerned. > If anyone would like to review the following chart for possible remedial > measures to supplement possible medical proceedures it would be appreciated. > In addition to the blood clots, this woman is anorexic and has not > experienced a menstrual period in over 3 years. > > DOB: 10/26/75 > 00.28 AM PST > 38N26 > 122W43 > Santa Rosa, California, USA > > Thanks in advance. > marcia > Dear Marica From what I can see she has a debilitated sun in libra, [low Agni; digestive fire]. The problem with this is that if you try to treat this by strengthening her sun {Pitta} You may dry her out further. It sounds to me like her anorexic has created a high Vata imbalance, drying out kapha and Ojas! TEXT-BOOK AYURVEDA AMENORRHOEA: Is a condition of primary a Vata imbalance occurring by dry up the menstrual secretions. This condition occurs typically in woman with low Ojas. Pitta's role is usually minimal in this condition. only in long standing pitta imbalance. The excessive heat dries out secretions. VATA TYPE AMENORRHOEA TREATMENT Pacify Vata Apana in the Purishvaha Srota with LAXATIVES: Psyllium, Triphala, & Flax seed. Pacify Vata Vyana in the Rasa Dhatu with DEMULCENTS: Licorice & Shatavari. Pacify Prana Vayu in the Manovaha Srota with NERVINE SEDATIVE: Gotu kola & Jatamamsi. Pacify Vata Apana in the Atarvavaha Srota with EMMENOGOGUES: Mugwort & Dong quai Pacify Vata Apana in the Shukravaha Srota with REPRODUCTIVE TONICES: Wild yam & Shatavari Strengthen Ojas with heavy oily foods, omega 3-6-9 & Ghee. Basmati rice. Vata reducing diet with emphasis on building up the Rasa {blood} with sour and sweet taste. Oil her body down with sesame seed oil, 20 minutes before her bath each day. As she begins to gain weight start leaning to hotter and spicier foods. Coriander, Fennel & Cumin will increase Agni [digestive fire] without vitiating Pitta. GOD BE WITH YOU ...........Noel > > > > > > > gjlist- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2001 Report Share Posted February 16, 2001 Marcia wrote: On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:36:11 -0800 Marcia <marcia writes: > Dear List Members: > A friend of mine recently discovered several blood clots under her > skin. > There has been no diagnosis but the doctors are very concerned. > If anyone would like to review the following chart for possible > remedial > measures to supplement possible medical proceedures it would be > appreciated. > In addition to the blood clots, this woman is anorexic and has not > experienced a menstrual period in over 3 years. > > DOB: 10/26/75 > 00.28 AM PST > 38N26 > 122W43 > Santa Rosa, California, USA > > > Thanks in advance. > marcia > > > > > > > gjlist- >From my observation of her chart this is what I see. The ascendant lord (which is her sense of self )is badly placed in the 12th house. I know it is involved in a strong Raja Yoga with the Yoga Karaka Mars, but I think there are things that this 12th house Raja Yoga cannot overturn at this time in her life. Saturn is sitting in the first house and she is in Saturn Mahadasha. Saturn is a strong malefic for Cancer Ascendant and all it's houses as well as it's associations and aspects are all being karmiclly lit up right now. So the moon ( being the dispositor of Saturn ) which is very sensitive, is being affected emotionally. Also, Saturn is aspecting Mercury in his exaltation sign of Virgo which rules the navel region. As we know Mercury tends to be a nervous planet. So, regardless of the fact that Mercury is in his exaltation sign and Moon/Mars are in Raja Yoga in the 12th, I think Saturn (in his Mahadasha) is reeking havoc in both areas (her sense of self, nervous system, and the navel region of her anatomy). Also, benefics in the third cause timidity and this amplifies Saturns aspect. One other thing is that she is very attractive (Venus (karaka of beauty) and lord of an angle in the 2nd house of the face) and successful (Jupiter in the ninth). If we put together the cultural idolization of beauty and success and how contrary Saturn's energies are to that sort of thing, then we have a soul being torn apart and stretched incredibly. This, I think explains the Anorexia Nervosa. As far as the blood clots go I think this is due to Moon/Mars in the twelfth and the influence that Saturn is having on it's dispositor the Moon. Saturn is a dry and airy planet and what are these clots but blood that has moved to the surface and are drying out. Moon and Mars are both karaka's (significators) of blood. I offer the following quote as an example: "The planet Moon is "Liquid" in nature as already stated. It is the fastest moving planet. It also gives life and nourishment. The blood in the human body is almost an exact parralel in as much as blood too is liquid, fast moving and life giving. Thus, if the Moon in any horoscope is the lord of the lagna or the lord of the 4th house and is badly situated, and under purely malefic influence, it denotes that the native is most likely to suffer from the diseases of the blood, such as blood pressure, anaemia etc. " (Astro Sutras by J.N. Bhasin) Now, lest I worsen the condition of a poor soul in torment, let me offer a few suggestions. She has planets in all the Moksha houses (4,8,12) and two of those 8 and 12 are involved in the Karma's of Saturn which are unfolding during this dasha period. By the way I think the Sun's debilitation is cancelled by being in an exchange with Venus and also the position of the Moon with Mars the Yogakaraka. Still, most definitely a Vata imbalance with depleted Kapha and Ojas. Speaking from both observation and experience I have found that so many problems come about in life (especially people with strong moksha charts) because we resist the very thing our life is really about. In Vedic Astrology we would say that her Moon and Mar's are badly placed, but are they really? Someone needs to encourage her to see all this in the light of Moksha. Saturn can be a great time of spiritual progress or a time to be bitter and broken. She needs to see what this difficult time is good for and how to utilize Saturn's energies. Saturn owning the 8th house of transformation gives her an opportunity to find out who she really is and to abandon the fictional self (of beauty and success) that is causing her so much grief. This all comes thru surrender to God. I watched my Mother die of Cancer with the mantra, 'Let Go and Let God" on her lips. She never became bitter. So encourage her. Also, have her propitiate Saturn with Mantra, especially on Saturday. And Mantra to strengthen the Moon, Mar's and Mercury as well. A nice moonstone mala (108 beads) to strengthen her ascendant lord would be a good idea. Make sure she wears it touching the skin and does 108 Mantra's to Chandra (the Moon) on a Monday before wearing it . I pray this helps. May Lord Krishna bless her on this path of opportunity. One other thing that may be of some benefit for the blood clots is Ginger or Turmeric or a combination of both. Both are blood thinners and help circulation. Introduce them slowly over a 3 or 4 day period of time. two capsules at first and then up to four a day or one to three droppers full of fresh plant extract. Namaste Jeff > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2001 Report Share Posted February 16, 2001 Marcia, I forgot to check transits. When I checked her current transits Saturn was aspecting Natal Saturn in the first house. And most important, she started Sadhesati on June 6th 2000. So I offer this as additional evidence that her troubles are coming from Saturn. All the more reason to propitiate Saturn and to surrender to the divine. I wish you both well. Namaste Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2001 Report Share Posted February 17, 2001 Among other things, she is likely deficient in Vitamin A, which deficiency can cause dry skin, "night blindness" (lack of Visual Purple to enable rapid eye adjustment to darkness), menstrual irregularities. Vitamin A is destroyed when a person spends much time under fluorescent lighting. It is an inexpensive vitamin found in fish oils, and is beneficial to eyes, skin, and beauty. Lack of Vitamin A is found in persons experiencing arthritis. Taken in moderation it can also aid in breathing and make skin feel smooth and pleasant to the touch. Best wishes, Carol Hook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2001 Report Share Posted February 17, 2001 In a message dated 2/17/01 1:55:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, Carolhook writes: << Vitamin A is destroyed when a person spends much time under fluorescent lighting. It is an inexpensive vitamin found in fish oils, and is beneficial to eyes, skin, and beauty. Lack of Vitamin A is found in persons experiencing arthritis. Taken in moderation it can also aid in breathing and make skin feel smooth and pleasant to the touch. Best wishes, Carol Hook >> Thank you for this information Carol... I have a friend that should know it and will pass it along. It should also be noted that Vitamin A is not a water soluble vitamin and there are safe limits for this Vitamin... not a situation where one should use excess dosage. Just a warning from an old time show cat breeder that has seen abuses of this vitamin (which adds color to certain breeds) that ended with liver damage and death.... (I understand that there is now regulation in the industry that bans this usage) I only mention this because many times people will think that if something is good, more must be better... so, just a safety note.... BeLoved, Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2001 Report Share Posted February 17, 2001 Namaste Marcia: Lets act quick, I'm an Ayur Vedic practitioner , not a Doctor, but I'm in touch since the last 25 years,and I have a diploma in Proficiency in A.V. I'm sure I can help you, or give some good advise , but I need to gather as more inf. as possible, Clinic History, where she lives, what type of work she has, descrive her complains, her complains, digestive capacity, State of mind, who is taken care,allergic reactions, time of the day, season of agravation , and so on, Regards and best wishes Hare Krishna Chaitanya S. das gjlist, Jeffrey P Pummill <ayurjyotish@j...> wrote: > Marcia wrote: > > On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:36:11 -0800 Marcia <marcia@n...> writes: > > Dear List Members: > > A friend of mine recently discovered several blood clots under her > > skin. > > There has been no diagnosis but the doctors are very concerned. > > If anyone would like to review the following chart for possible > > remedial > > measures to supplement possible medical proceedures it would be > > appreciated. > > In addition to the blood clots, this woman is anorexic and has not > > experienced a menstrual period in over 3 years. > > > > DOB: 10/26/75 > > 00.28 AM PST > > 38N26 > > 122W43 > > Santa Rosa, California, USA > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > marcia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gjlist- > > From my observation of her chart this is what I see. The ascendant lord > (which is her sense of self )is badly placed in the 12th house. I know it > is involved in a strong Raja Yoga with the Yoga Karaka Mars, but I think > there are things that this 12th house Raja Yoga cannot overturn at this > time in her life. Saturn is sitting in the first house and she is in > Saturn Mahadasha. Saturn is a strong malefic for Cancer Ascendant and > all it's houses as well as it's associations and aspects are all being > karmiclly lit up right now. So the moon ( being the dispositor of Saturn > ) which is very sensitive, is being affected emotionally. Also, Saturn is > aspecting Mercury in his exaltation sign of Virgo which rules the navel > region. As we know Mercury tends to be a nervous planet. So, regardless > of the fact that Mercury is in his exaltation sign and Moon/Mars are in > Raja Yoga in the 12th, I think Saturn (in his Mahadasha) is reeking havoc > in both areas (her sense of self, nervous system, and the navel region of > her anatomy). Also, benefics in the third cause timidity and this > amplifies Saturns aspect. > One other thing is that she is very attractive (Venus (karaka of beauty) > and lord of an angle in the 2nd house of the face) and successful > (Jupiter in the ninth). If we put together the cultural idolization of > beauty and success and how contrary Saturn's energies are to that sort of > thing, then we have a soul being torn apart and stretched incredibly. > This, I think explains the Anorexia Nervosa. > As far as the blood clots go I think this is due to Moon/Mars in the > twelfth and the influence that Saturn is having on it's dispositor the > Moon. Saturn is a dry and airy planet and what are these clots but blood > that has moved to the surface and are drying out. Moon and Mars are both > karaka's (significators) of blood. I offer the following quote as an > example: "The planet Moon is "Liquid" in nature as already stated. It is > the fastest moving planet. It also gives life and nourishment. The blood > in the human body is almost an exact parralel in as much as blood too is > liquid, fast moving and life giving. > Thus, if the Moon in any horoscope is the lord of the lagna or the lord > of the 4th house and is badly situated, and under purely malefic > influence, it denotes that the native is most likely to suffer from the > diseases of the blood, such as blood pressure, anaemia etc. " (Astro > Sutras by J.N. Bhasin) > Now, lest I worsen the condition of a poor soul in torment, let me offer > a few suggestions. She has planets in all the Moksha houses (4,8,12) and > two of those 8 and 12 are involved in the Karma's of Saturn which are > unfolding during this dasha period. By the way I think the Sun's > debilitation is cancelled by being in an exchange with Venus and also > the position of the Moon with Mars the Yogakaraka. Still, most definitely > a Vata imbalance with depleted Kapha and Ojas. Speaking from both > observation and experience I have found that so many problems come about > in life (especially people with strong moksha charts) because we resist > the very thing our life is really about. In Vedic Astrology we would say > that her Moon and Mar's are badly placed, but are they really? Someone > needs to encourage her to see all this in the light of Moksha. Saturn can > be a great time of spiritual progress or a time to be bitter and broken. > She needs to see what this difficult time is good for and how to utilize > Saturn's energies. Saturn owning the 8th house of transformation gives > her an opportunity to find out who she really is and > to abandon the fictional self (of beauty and success) that is causing her > so much grief. This all comes thru surrender to God. I watched my Mother > die of Cancer with the mantra, 'Let Go and Let God" on her lips. She > never became bitter. So encourage her. Also, have her propitiate Saturn > with Mantra, especially on Saturday. And Mantra to strengthen the Moon, > Mar's and Mercury as well. A nice moonstone mala (108 beads) to > strengthen her ascendant lord would be a good idea. Make sure she wears > it touching the skin and does 108 Mantra's to Chandra (the Moon) on a > Monday before wearing it . I pray this helps. May Lord Krishna bless her > on this path of opportunity. > One other thing that may be of some benefit for the blood clots is Ginger > or Turmeric or a combination of both. Both are blood thinners and help > circulation. Introduce them slowly over a 3 or 4 day period of time. two > capsules at first and then up to four a day or one to three droppers full > of fresh plant extract. Namaste Jeff > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2001 Report Share Posted February 17, 2001 Om Krishnaaya Namah Hi Marcia, The first thing I noticed about this chart is that all the kendras are occupied by malefics without any benefic relief. This is classically considered to be very bad for health matters, particularly in this in case as the Lagna Lord is in the twelfth afflicted by Mars while the karaka for health, the Sun, happens to be debilitated in a house where he loses Dig Bala and who also happens to be afflicted by Rahu. While Mars is the yogakaraka, when it comes to health, the natural status of the planet often predominates. Particularly bad is the fact that the Lord of the seventh and eighth (both bad for health - Maraka and Trik respectively), happens to be the natural malefic Saturn in Mrtyu Bhaga in the Lagna, making health problems chronic and long lasting, and while there is a beneficial aspect from a strong Jupiter, being the Lord of the sixth and being retrograde at the same time, while he may keep her going mentally, Jupiter in a way contributes to health problems, as retrograde sixth Lords often do. Saturn's Maha Dasha is running, and so the Saturn stuff is coming to a point of fructification. What's worse is that she is in Sade Sati, and while Saturn transits through the eleventh, he aspects and reactivates his natal position in the Lagna. In the twelfth, he transits over the Lagna Lord and it's combination Mars, and finally when he reaches the lagna itself, not only does he just bring malefic influence onto the Lagna, he also reactivates his natal position. Currently, in transit, Rahu is exactly over the Lagna Lord Moon, suggesting she is going through very difficult times both physically and emotionally, and while Saturn continues to move ahead, his aspect to his natal position, to the degree may be particularly distressful, due to the MB factor. Shani Deva is the main indicator. Your mail focuses particularly on remedial measures. Don't try to strengthen Saturn with gems. I would suggest worship Lord Sri Vishnu's Kurma Avatara, as this is specifically related to Saturn. I personally have experience of the power of the Narasimha Kavacha, and would recommend this in any case, and in this case particularly as Mars the fifth Lord (mantras) joins the first Lord, and Mars has a link with Lord Narasimha. These paths are both spiritual in nature and even if started with material motivations, may lead her on to discover her path of spirituality, as there are many spiritual inclinations showing in the chart - Lagna Lord in twelfth conjunct the fifth Lord, Ninth Lord Jupiter in the ninth etc. Also, for her anorexia, is she seeing a good psychologist? Anorexia usually has psychological roots, and if somehow these roots are discovered, maybe something could be done about them. Hope it's helped, Pursottam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2001 Report Share Posted February 17, 2001 Dear List members Thank you for all the responses regarding my last post. I will pass on the information and reply individually to your posts for more specific information if she has any questions. In divine light marcia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2001 Report Share Posted February 18, 2001 Aim Gurave Namah Jai Jagannath Namaste Marcia I'll reply to you soon ( private) best wishes Chaitanya s. das gjlist, Marcia <marcia@n...> wrote: > Dear List members > Thank you for all the responses regarding my last post. I will pass on the > information and reply individually to your posts for more specific > information if she has any questions. > In divine light > marcia > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2001 Report Share Posted February 19, 2001 > > From my observation of her chart this is what I see. The ascendant lord >(which is her sense of self )is badly placed in the 12th house. I know it >is involved in a strong Raja Yoga with the Yoga Karaka Mars, but I think >there are things that this 12th house Raja Yoga cannot overturn at this >time in her life. Saturn is sitting in the first house and she is in >Saturn Mahadasha. Saturn is a strong malefic for Cancer Ascendant and >all it's houses as well as it's associations and aspects are all being >karmiclly lit up right now. So the moon ( being the dispositor of Saturn >) which is very sensitive, is being affected emotionally. Also, Saturn is >aspecting Mercury in his exaltation sign of Virgo which rules the navel >region. As we know Mercury tends to be a nervous planet. So, regardless >of the fact that Mercury is in his exaltation sign and Moon/Mars are in >Raja Yoga in the 12th, I think Saturn (in his Mahadasha) is reeking havoc >in both areas (her sense of self, nervous system, and the navel region of >her anatomy). Also, benefics in the third cause timidity and this >amplifies Saturns aspect. >One other thing is that she is very attractive (Venus (karaka of beauty) >and lord of an angle in the 2nd house of the face) and successful >(Jupiter in the ninth). If we put together the cultural idolization of >beauty and success and how contrary Saturn's energies are to that sort of >thing, then we have a soul being torn apart and stretched incredibly. >This, I think explains the Anorexia Nervosa. >As far as the blood clots go I think this is due to Moon/Mars in the >twelfth and the influence that Saturn is having on it's dispositor the >Moon. Saturn is a dry and airy planet and what are these clots but blood >that has moved to the surface and are drying out. Moon and Mars are both >karaka's (significators) of blood. I offer the following quote as an >example: "The planet Moon is "Liquid" in nature as already stated. It is >the fastest moving planet. It also gives life and nourishment. The blood >in the human body is almost an exact parralel in as much as blood too is >liquid, fast moving and life giving. >Thus, if the Moon in any horoscope is the lord of the lagna or the lord >of the 4th house and is badly situated, and under purely malefic >influence, it denotes that the native is most likely to suffer from the >diseases of the blood, such as blood pressure, anaemia etc. " (Astro >Sutras by J.N. Bhasin) >Now, lest I worsen the condition of a poor soul in torment, let me offer >a few suggestions. She has planets in all the Moksha houses (4,8,12) and >two of those 8 and 12 are involved in the Karma's of Saturn which are >unfolding during this dasha period. By the way I think the Sun's >debilitation is cancelled by being in an exchange with Venus and also >the position of the Moon with Mars the Yogakaraka. Still, most definitely >a Vata imbalance with depleted Kapha and Ojas. Speaking from both >observation and experience I have found that so many problems come about >in life (especially people with strong moksha charts) because we resist >the very thing our life is really about. In Vedic Astrology we would say >that her Moon and Mar's are badly placed, but are they really? Someone >needs to encourage her to see all this in the light of Moksha. Saturn can >be a great time of spiritual progress or a time to be bitter and broken. >She needs to see what this difficult time is good for and how to utilize >Saturn's energies. Saturn owning the 8th house of transformation gives >her an opportunity to find out who she really is and >to abandon the fictional self (of beauty and success) that is causing her >so much grief. This all comes thru surrender to God. Also, have her >propitiate Saturn >with Mantra, especially on Saturday. And Mantra to strengthen the Moon, >Mar's and Mercury as well. A nice moonstone mala (108 beads) to >strengthen her ascendant lord would be a good idea. Make sure she wears >it touching the skin and does 108 Mantra's to Chandra (the Moon) on a >Monday before wearing it . I pray this helps. May Lord Krishna bless her >on this path of opportunity. >One other thing that may be of some benefit for the blood clots is Ginger >or Turmeric or a combination of both. Both are blood thinners and help >circulation. Introduce them slowly over a 3 or 4 day period of time. two >capsules at first and then up to four a day or one to three droppers full >of fresh plant extract. Namaste Jeff > > > > > > > > >gjlist- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2001 Report Share Posted February 20, 2001 > Vitamin A is destroyed when a person spends much time under fluorescent > lighting.< Would this apply to full spectrum lighting? Yogini Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping! http://www.shopping.altavista.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2001 Report Share Posted February 25, 2001 Dear Yogini, I've been offline for a few days so did not respond sooner--my apologies! I'd read a long time ago that fluorescent lighting causes deficiency of Vitamin A, but I haven't read any study showing that full spectrum lighting would be harmful. I imagine full spectrum lighting would be far more beneficial. Hope this helps! Carol In a message dated 2/20/2001 4:10:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, yogini2 writes: < Vitamin A is destroyed when a person spends much time under fluorescent > lighting.< Would this apply to full spectrum lighting? Yogini >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2001 Report Share Posted February 26, 2001 Namaste: My humble opinion based on Ayur Vedic Science is that it will basically increase vata and Pitta ( Alochaka ) and the effect will be felt depending the individual for example , on your level of OJAS that means the level of your inmunity , Vaya ( age) , your predominant Guna and so many other considerations. I won't explain further than that , sorry. Hope that helps Hare Krishna Chaitanya S Das gjlist, Carolhook@a... wrote: > Dear Yogini, > I've been offline for a few days so did not respond sooner-- my > apologies! I'd read a long time ago that fluorescent lighting causes > deficiency of Vitamin A, but I haven't read any study showing that full > spectrum lighting would be harmful. I imagine full spectrum lighting would > be far more beneficial. Hope this helps! > Carol > In a message dated 2/20/2001 4:10:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, > yogini2@a... writes: > > < Vitamin A is destroyed when a person spends much time under fluorescent > > lighting.< > Would this apply to full spectrum lighting? > Yogini >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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