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Namaste Mani,

My birth details are as follows: 8th Dec 1958 Mildura

Victoria 1am (34S12 142E09).Leo lagna approx 25deg58.

Just to add some extra information following the thread concerning Rahu

and addictions. I smoke 'like a train'. I just Love cigarettes. It freaks me

out sometimes; If I were on a desert island, I would probably grind the sand

and smoke it!. I justify this particularly nasty habit by shrugging my

shoulders and thinking 'well something has to take me out'!. But, knowing I

will die otherwise and quickly,I continue on my hedonistic way. Awful I

know, but that is the nature of the beast.

Fond Regards,

Ann.

 

P.S Does Heaven have a 'smoking room'? seems a pity to go all the way 'down

there' for a puff!.

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Namaste Ann,

 

At 01:41 AM 1/25/01 +1100, you wrote:

 

> Namaste Robert,

> If this is bad karma, then bring it on!.

> I have natal Saturn(in Mula)5th hse Sag,receiving rasi drishti form 2nd

>hse Rahu. Saturn is considered a major malefic for Leo lagna, also it owns

>the inauspicious 6th and 7th. Saturn is also debilitated in 6th hse Navamsa.

> My life has never been a bed of roses; Admittedly, Saturn dasa has been

>hard work, but I am more content than I have ever been. My attitude towards

>the pain to which I am a witness, has become more tolerable and I have

>become comfortable and accepting with my spiritual path. How can this be? It

>seems to defy the interpretations so familiar within Vedic Astrology.

>Fond Regards,

>Ann.

 

This is another case, wherein Navamsa placements are key. Now, there is a

less-known rule that appears in Jataka-tattva and Saravali: If malefics

join the 3rd, 6th, or 12th houses *in debilitation*, there is a Vipareet

effect, or in other words, they act like yoga-karakas. Vipareet means a

"reversal" of what you would normally expect, or "two negatives equal a

positive", as in mathematics. Anyway, Saturn debilitated in the 8th

qualifies as a Vipareet planet, and especially in the case of Your Navamsa

chart, where he also rules the 3rd, and occupies the 6th. Now, if other

lords of Dusthanas were to conjoin or aspect, then a full-fledged Vipareet

Raja-yoga would result.

 

Have you ever noticed w.r.t. charts with Taurus rising, and Saturn

debilitated in the 12th? The dasa of Saturn, in many such cases, is

brilliant and productive of much success, both in career, as well as

studies and spirituality. Also, Saturn's being the karaka of the 6th and

8th, and joining the 12th, makes it a "Karaka Viapreet Raja

yoga". Interesting - look for it in such charts with Taurus rising.

 

If career had been good during the Saturn dasa, then you would need to

quantify the strength of Saturn in the Dasamsa chart as well. If peace of

mind and tolerance were experienced, then you would need to see what Saturn

is doing in the Chaturthamsa also.

 

Best wishes,

Robert

 

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Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer

760 NW Broken Arrow Rd.

Bend, OR. 97701-9037

Phone: 541-318-0248

visit <http://www.robertkoch.com> or e-mail

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Hello Ann,

 

This seems to be Australia. Can you post the time zone also to arrive at

correct Lagna Degrees, or Mani, can you just post the degrees of Lagna and

degrees of planets.

 

regards,

Manoj

 

 

>Ann Murphy <evie

>gjlist

>gjlist

>CC: evie

>[gjlist] Spiritual Realizations

>Thu, 25 Jan 2001 03:12:42 +1100

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>

>

> Namaste Mani,

> My birth details are as follows: 8th Dec 1958 Mildura

>Victoria 1am (34S12 142E09).Leo lagna approx 25deg58.

> Just to add some extra information following the thread concerning Rahu

>and addictions. I smoke 'like a train'. I just Love cigarettes. It freaks

>me

>out sometimes; If I were on a desert island, I would probably grind the

>sand

>and smoke it!. I justify this particularly nasty habit by shrugging my

>shoulders and thinking 'well something has to take me out'!. But, knowing I

>will die otherwise and quickly,I continue on my hedonistic way. Awful I

>know, but that is the nature of the beast.

>Fond Regards,

>Ann.

>

>P.S Does Heaven have a 'smoking room'? seems a pity to go all the way 'down

>there' for a puff!.

>

>

>

>gjlist-

>

>

>

 

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