OUTER PLANETS

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dear Mani, amigo

 

Yes, you are right by saying that the last conjunction of Ju & Sa in Aries was

not in opposition to Pluto. What i was refering to was that such a conjunction

is the last in the series of Aries, because the next one is going to be in

taurus. When i was writting i was thinking about the planetary cycles. We have

the 20 years cycle in the conjunction of Ju & Sa, but then we have a cycle of

about 800 to 900 years to see the same series of conjunctions in Aries. Then,

we have the return of Sa of 30 years and Ju of 12 but Pluto's return is 248

years. The mathematics involved in a cycle of seeing a conjunction of Ju & Sa

in Aries opposite to Pluto is astronomical. The closest thing we are seeing

right now is the association of Ju & Sa in Taurus opposite to pluto in Scorpio.

But even this configuration is astronomical, mathematical speaking. When

professionals are building a road, they require 2 points to make sure that the

proposed direction is accurate. In a similar way, opposition of planets can be

taken as two points of reference. Ju & Sa in taurus are already causing some

effects on taurus (if we take into consideration natal planets etc) but when we

look at the guy opposite, the opposition is making some effects as well. But if

we research when was the last association of Ju & Sa in Taurus opposite to

Pluto, i cannot find it yet. My numbers go back as far as 2000 years but later

on i want to search beyond that. We are surrounded by cycles and this

particular cycle must extend to thousands of years and therefore important. Why

important, well i feel that just when 2 heads of countries meet to come to some

contracts, planets (demigods) in conjunction come together to sign certain

contracts to balance the cosmic energies. Opposition although no similar to

conjunction is also important cos like i said they are reference points to make

sure that those contracts are working ok, otherwise there is the need of some

adjustments. If we look now at the sky, Ju & Sa are the guest of Venus and they

are doing something in that sign but they are too ready to make a last

opposition to Pluto which in Scorpio (its own sign/house) is monitoring what is

going on on earth. Some astrologers may say that Pluto is too far as to cause

any influence on earth. My answer to that is that the president of the US may

be seating in the White house in Washington surrounded by walls, and we may not

be able to see him or the walls are obstructing his vision, but people miles

away in California can feel his influence and power. So distance and walls do

not count. It is his influence that determines many factors and issues in

America & in the world as well.

 

Regarding the orb of the outer planets, in my humble opinion their influence is

stronger within the number of degrees which they move in 12 months. I have seen

many cases in which pluto starts to affect (transform) people when reaching 6

degrees (2 years) of the planet in focus. The transformation is slow in the

beginning but it becomes more intense when approaching a natal planet. Also in

my opinion the axis of taurus/Scorpio affected by the present configuration is

causing drastic changes to countries. Lets see America, traditional ruled by

Gemini. The axis fall on the 12th (secret enemies, expenditure) and 6th (open

enemies etc). The present administration of Bush is talking a lot about defense

like if they know already about secret enemies which are a botheration to their

plans. Even before taking the office, Bush said that England has to chose

between Europe & the US cos otherwise the US is not going to give them anymore

intelligence info. What is going on? Lets wait and see, but many top

politicians can see sometimes 5 years ahead from us ordinary people. Maybe that

is why a secret engine rushed to put Bush rather than Gore who does not work the

same as they would like. We are living in mysterious time.

 

<<Integrating TS planets into the jyothish frame is welcome: the present era has

reached a stage when their influences can be felt. But it has to be done very

very gently and carefully! Western astrologers have considered the TS planets

for quite some time, BUT THEIR INTERPRETATION IS MOSTLY BS! >>

 

I agree with you in both toughts and i do not understand how western astrologers

can dare to say that Pluto is now in Sagittarius. The influence is not the

same. The American president is more powerful when in his own country, how

pluto can be working in Sagittarius now? The transformations are not the same,

dharma is still at its lowest.

 

regards

 

natabara das