Guest guest Posted January 21, 2001 Report Share Posted January 21, 2001 Dear Robert Pranams, i was fascinated by your talk on mrtyu-bhagas & i tought "here, there is a very interesting thing, but unfortunately i do not have the time to study this particular issue". Then i tought "perhaps i can contribuite with some 10 or 20 dates of death of famous personalities, i put them somewhere in my files when i was researching biographies some 5 years ago". I looked for the files & i think that i have to find them later cos it was a long time ago. So, i gave up in a hurry. Then today i noticed that your email appeared 3 seconds before mine on outer planets & i saw it as an omen "ask Robert for those charts" <<Later, I will post some charts illustrating MB planets and there use in timing death, or at least major life challenges. Andrew will send you the chart of which degrees in particular signs, are MB, for which planets.>> Could you please send me those charts? Andrew, could you please send me the chart? Thank you in advance. Natabara das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2001 Report Share Posted January 22, 2001 Dear Natabara, Namaskara - At 02:04 AM 1/22/01 +0000, you wrote: >Dear Robert > >Pranams, i was fascinated by your talk on mrtyu-bhagas & i tought "here, >there is a very interesting thing, but unfortunately i do not have the >time to study this particular issue". Then i tought "perhaps i can >contribuite with some 10 or 20 dates of death of famous personalities, i >put them somewhere in my files when i was researching biographies some 5 >years ago". I looked for the files & i think that i have to find them >later cos it was a long time ago. So, i gave up in a hurry. Then today i >noticed that your email appeared 3 seconds before mine on outer planets & >i saw it as an omen "ask Robert for those charts" > ><<Later, I will post some charts illustrating MB planets and there use in >timing death, or at least major life challenges. Andrew will send you the >chart of which degrees in particular signs, are MB, for which planets.>> > >Could you please send me those charts? > >Andrew, could you please send me the chart? > >Thank you in advance. > >Natabara das Natabara, yes, I will definitely get to posting some of those charts. Time for me, lately, has been at a scarcity, and so I will pots those charts in time. What was especially edifying for me when I first began the study on MB planets, was to see that they were prevalent in both the charts of victims of unnatural death, as well as the perpetrators of such. For example, a serial killer who murdered 20 people in California in the early 1970's, with the Sun, lagna lord, and another planet all in the MB degrees. Tamra Meyer, beloved young and rising star on the Vedic astrology scene in California, tragically dying with Rahu conjoined maraka lord Venus (for Aries rising), in MB, and at the beginning of the Rahu dasa (note my comments re: Rahu conjoined Maraka lords in my post yesterday). TODAY: I had a client with 4 planets plus the lagna all in MB! She has not died yet, nor has she ever killed anybody, but she is a gifted telepathic healer by profession, and has cured people of deadly diseases up to cancer. So here again, is a variation on the theme of death, and planets in MB. Anyway, when time allows, I will indeed break open my files, and give you all kinds of case histories on persons with these planets existing in their charts. Best wishes, Robert ===================================== Robert A. Koch, Vedic Astrologer 760 NW Broken Arrow Rd. Bend, OR. 97701-9037 Phone: 541-318-0248 visit <http://www.robertkoch.com> or e-mail rk. rk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2001 Report Share Posted January 22, 2001 Dear Robert I just returned from Pundit Navaratnams house where we had a long discussion about these Mrityu Bhaga points. He has the lagna cusp in Scorpio, Mercury in the 5th and Rahu in the 8th house all in Mrityu Bhaga. Quite rightly, in his case he questions the "death inflicting interpretation" associated with this. His Mercury dasha was very good for him also with publishing of books and travel to America He actually thinks Mrityu means friend or friendly, and I keep telling him the word for friend is Mitra because in the Thai language Mit means friend and is taken directly from the Sanskrit original. What is the exact translation of "Mrityu Bhaga" in Sanskrit? . I thought Mrityu Bhaga means "death of fortune" or "death of enjoyment" or something similar. I know all this as a Thai speaker and the Thais call Mike Tyson "Mrityu Dam" which is literally "Black Death". Pundit gave me his "a part is not the whole line" and rightly says the charts I have shown him as examples have many other indications of the trouble I attribute to Mrityu Bhaga. If it is possible can you scan the actual ancient text which mentions these points so I can look at it ? Thats if you actually have it. I also showed him my page with the article on Caroline and her suicide. He automatically said the 4th lord Jupiter as a heavy planet in the 8th house shows a heavy vehicle killed her. He went on for ten minutes about things that I had never even thought about which were so accurate. He kept modifying my points and and I just started laughing. He was really saying "don't get too cocky son!" I am still the Pundit around here... Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2001 Report Share Posted January 23, 2001 Andrew, Look at the strong association between (houses) 3/8 and 3/12 for indication of death by own hand (suicide) or death of others by own hand (murder). Third house shows courage, bravery, fear, one's own effort/actions (motivation), also shows cause of death... Take a look at following charts: Martin Bryant May 7 1967 02.35 Hobart, Tasmania Theodore Bundy Nov 24 1946 22.35 44N29 73W12 Wendy Andrew Lynn [skinbags] Tuesday, January 23, 2001 3:27 PM gjlist Re: [gjlist] Mrtyu-bhagas Dear Robert I just returned from Pundit Navaratnams house where we had a long discussion about these Mrityu Bhaga points. He has the lagna cusp in Scorpio, Mercury in the 5th and Rahu in the 8th house all in Mrityu Bhaga. Quite rightly, in his case he questions the "death inflicting interpretation" associated with this. His Mercury dasha was very good for him also with publishing of books and travel to America He actually thinks Mrityu means friend or friendly, and I keep telling him the word for friend is Mitra because in the Thai language Mit means friend and is taken directly from the Sanskrit original. What is the exact translation of "Mrityu Bhaga" in Sanskrit? . I thought Mrityu Bhaga means "death of fortune" or "death of enjoyment" or something similar. I know all this as a Thai speaker and the Thais call Mike Tyson "Mrityu Dam" which is literally "Black Death". Pundit gave me his "a part is not the whole line" and rightly says the charts I have shown him as examples have many other indications of the trouble I attribute to Mrityu Bhaga. If it is possible can you scan the actual ancient text which mentions these points so I can look at it ? Thats if you actually have it. I also showed him my page with the article on Caroline and her suicide. He automatically said the 4th lord Jupiter as a heavy planet in the 8th house shows a heavy vehicle killed her. He went on for ten minutes about things that I had never even thought about which were so accurate. He kept modifying my points and and I just started laughing. He was really saying "don't get too cocky son!" I am still the Pundit around here... Andrew gjlist- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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